Or maybe you should drop the arrogance and find some substance for your arguments?
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Or maybe you should drop the arrogance and find some substance for your arguments?
I cant make you watch the previous matches, but maybe you want to read previous posts in the thread about him giving the ball away prior to Southampton
It was a problem in his early performances but it was definitely improving enormously before the Southampton game, the Stoke and Hull games in particular his distribution was excellent.
We have quite a few players on our team who can boss a game like nobody's business when they are afforded time and space. Someone's technical ability only comes out when he's being pressured and pressed like Southampton did.
His distribution was fine against Chelsea and his (limited) display against City, I'd put more weight on those performances than one away at Southampton.
Heart always skips a beat when he has the ball at his feet, I don't think he's a first choice CB quality even though he's not done anything majorly wrong yet.
Maybe if we sign a world class cb then he will settle down
Maybe if we sign a world class cb then he will settle down
Sounds an awful lot like you're quoting yourself to add validity to your argument.
Sounds a lot like me talking about specific incidents in the Chelsea match rather than brushing the match under the carpet in a list with others where he's been fine, which obviously wasnt the case and if you read this very thread you'd see several people mention it. But who reads the thread they post in? Lets just assume everyone has been fine in every match
It's almost as if people with an agenda repeatedly and consistently act in a hyper-critical manner because of said agenda.
Quoting your own interpretation of an incident isn't strengthening your own argument, it's repeating it.
Not simply good enough to be a long term answer to our CB problems, IMO. He has panicked under pressure, misplaced passes at crucial moments, and possesses average positioning. Bravery and athleticism are not enough to make you a first-choice centre-back for a team of our ambitions. He can 'do a job' for now, but he'll always be lacking when it comes to teams that press and in the big games, too. I see him as being backup to Shaw if and when we get some proper defenders into the squad, is all.
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He is absolutely determined that was his goal
Its bringing specific incidents where Rojo made mistakes into the conversation. You can't and won't
Despite how nervous I get when he's on the ball I can't help but love him. Don't know what it is.
I'm exactly the same mate. Kind of in the same way I loved Buttner mind
I'm confident he's a lot better though. I think.
I'm exactly the same mate. Kind of in the same way I loved Buttner mind
I'm confident he's a lot better though. I think.
I really liked Buttner too and thought that he left too soon, and now I really like Rojo too. It's perhaps not so strange considering they're basically the Dutch and Argentine versions of eachother. Both in appearances and playstyles.
But above that, they both seem like great guys who look(ed) like they couldn't be happier playing for any other team than United. It's rare and therefore special to see players who are truly commited to and loves their club these days. I can't say that this is actually true but that's the vibe I get/got from them.
Aye I'd say you're on to something there. I think we're all forgetting at times that Rojo is in his first year in England playing in a defence where he (and DDG if you include GK) have been the only consistent features for the most part. A fecking hard situation for anyone to settle into, never mind a South American with an inability to speak English. If we can get Shaw (and Rafael, but he's walking a tightrope atm) fit, along with a solid and experienced CB alongside him I think we have the makings of a great back 5 again. We'll see his best next year, I'm sure of it. His relative solidity and consistency now is a bonus as far as I'm concerned.
I agree with you. And here's the thing for me, wether we like it or not he's our only dependable defender right now. He's performed well for us under very difficult circumstances. To people who say that they don't see him as our long term CB, remember Evra and Vidic when they first came here (It's a worn arguement but still valid). Give him and the team some time to settle and it will become clear wether he's good enough to be a starter for us.
I'm so tired of some people who feel urged to stamp players as failed signings based on a few games with barely any consideration for circumstance. I've seen it this year especially in the Shaw thread after his first few games. You can see it in the Falcao thread right now. Zaha's another one, although to less controversy.
Systematic bias. That's why you don't quote yourself in an argument.
He's not been terrible so far. One can only assume he'll get better as he settles in so I imagine he'll have an OK career here.
I thought Rojo really improved our defending since he came into the team. We were horrible before he started playing for us!
Been a bit more impressed with him in recent weeks, he's done well to return so quickly from the injury too.
He will develop into a fantastic defender over time imo.
Based on what?
My qualitative assessment of what I've seen of him so far. He'll be one of those who started off a bit shaky, much like Evra when he first arrived, then gain momentum after he's had more time.
That sounds more hopeful than anything tbh. I don't see anything in his game that suggests he's going to become a fantastic defender. Hopefully, you're right.
I think Rojo has a big upside and room to develop. He's still quite raw and adapting to the new environment. Once he has a year or so, he will be fine. If we buy a top defender this summer, we will be in good stead for years.
He seems a bit too weak at the basics to ever be anything above decent in my eyes. His concentration and anticipation levels are pretty low and his aerial ability is very suspect. Hopefully with a whole season in the league he'll grow, but I'm not very convinced.
Musical chairs. Evans comes back, Smalling gets injured. Jones back and Rojo gets injured.
Probably because Jones tackled him , lol.
What's van Gaal doing in training on a Friday? They need to chill the feck out.
It sort of works out nicely since all of them can't play at the same time anyway.
That's one way of looking at it, just don't mention form, consistency or partnerships I guess
Same shit, different day.
wtf!!
I was hoping to have Rojo, Shaw, Smalling and Rafael back for the last week of dec and 1 week of jan.
That is a hell of a busy period, with visits to Spurs and Stoke.
I hope Rojo got a small injury.
I was hoping to have Rojo, Shaw, Smalling and Rafael back for the last week of dec and 1 week of jan.
That is a hell of a busy period, with visits to Spurs and Stoke.
I hope Rojo got a small injury.
Any news on what his injury might be?