It's been his problem for a long time to get bullied by physical striker. I don't know any good CB that look physically as weak as him. Why he's never thought of bulk up a bit more, thus a bit stronger as a CB, it's a mystery.
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It's been his problem for a long time to get bullied by physical striker. I don't know any good CB that look physically as weak as him. Why he's never thought of bulk up a bit more, thus a bit stronger as a CB, it's a mystery.
Towards the end of SAFs final season i started to question whether Evans was United quality for the first time. Under Moyes i gave him the benefit of the doubt because everyone was rubbish under him.
But now i think i've made up my mind, hes NOT United quality and i'd be tempted to even replace him from the squad because i dont know if he can be called up as adequate cover for Rojo/Jones/Smalling. I would rather play one of the kids
Completely agree mate, i mean i dont expect all CBs to be built like Ronaldo or anything, i mean Vidic was pretty lean but had good core strength which is a must for defenders. Evans gets out muscled far too easy for my liking
What an utter disappointment he is. At least Smalling and Jones managed to prove themselves, Evans just seems to be getting worse.
Will he ever stop passing the ball to the opposition in a dangerous area?
Will he ever stop passing the ball to the opposition in a dangerous area?
If we put Jones or Smalling up for sale Arsenal would gladly take the pair. Evans would be lucky to attract Newcastle. Says it all really.
Until he proves me wrong, I have no confidence in him whatsoever. He's been poor for a while now and his passing has become a weakness as opposed to strength. Countless times today he carried the ball forward and was reluctant to play a forward pass to Falcao or RVP and chose to go backwards
Ship him off. Enough with this shit.
His pass at the end summed it up. How many backpasses or shit passes do we need to contend with? Still surprised we ain't conceded.
Agreed. We have four senior centre-backs and it's still a problem area that needs to be improved so one of them needs to go. Evans is clearly the weakest so it's an easy decision.
I agree. One of the reasons why I feel so unnerved when Evans starts. Already cost us the first (?) goal against MK Dons if I remember correctly and could've cost us against Liverpool.
I think we have a coward on our backline. His injuries might be influencing this but I don't know of a PL player at any top club who shies from challenging for headers, taking players 1 v 1, and making an aggressive pass forward. Needs to go.
Burnley too.
It's taken me longer than a lot of posters but that's it for me too. He isn't good enough anymore, everything that was great about him before (skills on the ball and coolness), it's gone now.
Still think he'll end up at Stoke, what is he doing here at United. Totally out of place, just like Moyes or even Ando.
A lot of people thought he would do well for Van Gaal because he could play a good pass. But I remember this story about Van Gaal literally making Badstuber cry at Bayern. Same style of player as Evans I think, also strikes me a bit as a 'thinker' and not very 'tough'. So now I have this theory that Van Gaal demands more of Evans because he's got quality on the ball but isn't a good defender. Like Van Gaal smells the insecurity in Evans or something, pointed that out, and it's led to Jonny being more insecure and clueless than ever.
It already started in pre-season, I think vs. Liverpool, but it could've been another match. After 45 minutes LvG pointed to Evans and screamed 'YOU!', because Jonny made some terrible passes that match. In general, Evans should raise his game though, Jones has been a better defender and passer this season, Smalling a way better defender who at least doesn't have those brain fart passes, and Rojo who's new seemed better than Evans too.
It already started in pre-season, I think vs. Liverpool, but it could've been another match. After 45 minutes LvG pointed to Evans and screamed 'YOU!', because Jonny made some terrible passes that match. In general, Evans should raise his game though, Jones has been a better defender and passer this season, Smalling a way better defender who at least doesn't have those brain fart passes, and Rojo who's new seemed better than Evans too.
Is there a more lightweight CB in the league?
He wasn't at fault for the goal but my fecking word he has been absolutely pointless this season. He is our worst centre half so far under Van Gaal, and I expected him to excel under him. A shame, but he is not United standard.
Lol to all those who was saying he's the best defender utd have at the start of the season, talking up his passing skills and leadership qualities 
hes the worst out of the lot of them, Blackett and McNair are better than him, its actually laughable, he's the senior utd defender and will 27 in 2 weeks, he's a joke. Ship him out.
hes the worst out of the lot of them, Blackett and McNair are better than him, its actually laughable, he's the senior utd defender and will 27 in 2 weeks, he's a joke. Ship him out.I think we need to show some patience, we know Johnny can do better, we've already seen that.
I don't think the formations are bringing out he best in him, neither is he fully match fit yet.
Also he's not the first or last to miss out physically to benteke, he's a beast
I don't think the formations are bringing out he best in him, neither is he fully match fit yet.
Also he's not the first or last to miss out physically to benteke, he's a beast
lucky to fit into QPR...
Have never felt overly confident with him there.
A premier league defender needs strength and height in my book. All our best combos have had it.
Evans looks the kind of guy I could outmuscle, and I'm a streak of piss long distance runner build!
Jonny going through some shi*y form. As long as he stays fit he has a chance to regain his best form. Benteke manhandled him for the goal but thats never been Jonny's strength anyway.
Oh here we go, just like fletcher before was only good enough for championship teams. Why do some of our so called fans make such idiotic statements
The problem with Jonny is that you just know he's going to struggle against any striker who is physically imposing, whether they're particularity talented on the ball or not. Its not like he might win the battle. You know he's lost it before the game has even begun. Its a major flaw in his game.
Here, in this thread, I agree with you.
He's a damn good footballer for a CB, something he has ironically failed to show in a system designed to showcase this. What annoys me is the lack of attention to detail by our coaching staff, Jones should have been marking Benteke.
Played his best games with Vidic and we don't have a defender like him anymore..
Surprisingly one of the best physical striker in premier league league history Drogba and Evans has dealt with him well.
But then he has trouble dealing with Carlton Cole, Zamora, Elmander and more players of that nature.
I was never keen on him when either Rio and Vidic weren't there. I just don't think he is as dominant or leader as them. And really he should be the one who should be leading the back four.
I'm assuming that fantastic block which stopped a certain goal in the second half isn't getting much of a mention?
Should have done better for the goal we did concede. That goes without saying. Although, no doubt, it won't.
Should have done better for the goal we did concede. That goes without saying. Although, no doubt, it won't.
Wise up Pogue, the blocked shot ended up going up to a Villa player, should have made sure the blocked shot went to a united player for a quick counter attack, sack him.
Let's face it...it's a great myth that Evans is the present and the future for us at center back. He's a Spurs/Southampton level defender. He should be nowhere near the first 11 and should only be a squad player here
Good at interceptions, and can work alongside an absolute physical monster like Vidic.
I thought he was quite good at passing, but this season there seems to be at least one horrible gaffe a game.
Am sure there was one today, the Liverpool one to Sterling, one in the MK game, and plenty more I'm sure.
He's always had an error in him. None as bad as that Man City 6-1 sending off though.
I thought he was quite good at passing, but this season there seems to be at least one horrible gaffe a game.
Am sure there was one today, the Liverpool one to Sterling, one in the MK game, and plenty more I'm sure.
He's always had an error in him. None as bad as that Man City 6-1 sending off though.
Yes, at (nearly) 27, it's all about the present and he simply isn't good enough to be a senior defender for a team aiming to compete for the Premier League and Champions League. He'll be moved on in the summer - we may as well use younger players with scope for development for squad places.
Evans makes mistakes from time to time... as well as Jones, as well as Smalling, as well as... but my personal impression is that Evans is that kind of player who is thinking "too much" about his errors. His mistakes make him panicky while other players just go on as nothing happened. That's why I don't see a leader in him. He is able to play some pretty good matches if there is a son of a gun like Vidic next to him, but to be the boss? To play it cool when others are nervous? No. I can't see that.
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Smalling hardly makes mistakes (apart from that City match).
Surely even you can see that at nearly 27 he should be far ahead of his development than he is at the moment. I'm no way suggesting he is sold, but I am thinking he shouldn't be considered in the future as first choice. He get's injured too often. More of a Wes Brown for me....and yeah...we could do with Wes right now to be honest!
He's nowhere near as bad as his form is suggesting. He's a good player. The problem he might face is that LVG has a limited timescale to make an impact. If his poor form means LVG can't can't be certain that Evans won't be able to perform at the highest level then he won't play. If he doesn't play (and the same goes for the likes of Smalling, Jones, Rafael, Herrera) then we'll likely cash in at some stage. I'd actually be pretty surprised if one of he Jones and Smalling doesn't pitch up at Arsenal in the next season or two.
The worst thing is that you've got people having to mention the good things he does now, as if that's not what he's paid to do, so he doesn't get criticised for all the wrong things he does in a match. He's not some kid that can be afforded that right, he's one of our most experienced players.
How long can we keep saying that? We're starting to sound like Chelsea fans about Torres. He was awful last season, but then again so was the rest of our defence, so I'll give him that but the season before he wasn't great either. His last good season, imo, was 11/12 and since then he's been largely 'meh' or awful. It's time to get rid as I don't think he's even good anymore.
Evans won't be pitching up with Arsenal next season that is for sure. He's a good player...but would you put him in the same catergory as Rio and Vidic when they were near 27?