Jaysus, transfer window's barely open and yer man is back with his gibberish and lies.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Jaysus, transfer window's barely open and yer man is back with his gibberish and lies.
Like Nani for Sneijder did?
We're actually a very loving club to be fair to us, which the love applies to most players but De Gea is special
I'd rather have De Gea in the side than Bale. De Gea has won us so many points this year on his own, and it was the same last year. He's our best player.
If signing valdes was preparation in replacing de gea, then it's a poor signing. Barca would not have let valdes go if they thought he was still one of the best keepers in the world. For me it would be cutting corners, if the club thinks they can get by with valdes being the Number 1, which would would be a pretty worrying road for the club to go down
Valdes chose to leave Barca, they didn;t get rid of him.
If it was between 2009-13 era in terms of how the club would spend the money, I would be worried. But I do think the club are now spending money, but it would be a concern if DDG is sold and valdes is our number 1 next season
De Gea is brilliant, but Valdes has proved he's good enough to be in a team capable of winning everything, so people shouldn't be too worried either way. I know we'd all rather have De Gea, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if he left, surely?
I bet this is a Glazer thing. They feel they can get De Gea to agree a new contract in June and we don't have to pay six months increase in wages now. Which would save costs.
Pretty sure I read a few years ago that's how they were dealing with new contracts.
Pretty sure I read a few years ago that's how they were dealing with new contracts.
And since that article how often have we been in the situation where we've renewed a player's contract with 12 months to go (on someone who is below 28ish)? Never/hardly ever happens. I see it being brought up but there's no evidence that that is the case.
I'm really unsure he'll sign an extension to his contract to be honest, and have been for a while now. I'm not sure money is an issue, it's his girlfriend I'm more concerned about.
The reality is that all other clubs are feeder clubs for Real and Barca, because they can have any player they like, with a very few exceptions. If they want De Gea, they'll get him. The rest is noise.
Well it's about time somebody put a stop to it. Barca aren't signing anybody and Real Madrid can feck off. If De Gea is happy to stay, there's no way we should even consider selling. Not for any player.
Part of a Bale deal, some are saying? Aye, do one....because here's the truth, De Gea is a better keeper than Bale is an outfield player. If anyhting they should be offering us Bale and cash for De Gea and I'd still say no.
Hear, hear!
That's one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. We haven't sold a player to Madrid and Barca that we didn't want to sell except Ronaldo. And back then we were the absolute top club in terms of revenue and exposure, so he wasn't going to Madrid because we were a smaller club in terms of stature (not trophies). What makes you think we will sell our players just because Madrid want them? Who the heck have Madrid brought in recent years (except Ronaldo, again) from a really big club? Modric, Bale, Rodriguez, etc... they all come from smaller clubs and they were all brought with obscene amount of money.
Frankly, the fear and inferiority so many people here are expressing towards Barca and Real is quite amusing and I really can't understand it. Any club can buy whoever he wants, if you throw money around, as we proved in this transfer window. Doesn't matter if its Real, City, PSG, Bayern etc...
Pretty sure van Nistelrooy was eyeing up Madrid before he started pissing everyone off. But yeah, the club didn't want him any more at the point when they sold him, and I guess the general point stands.
I'd have been a lot more worried if Valdes had signed a 3 year contract.
Not fully across the Valdes signing yet but it seems a bit concerning that we have got him. I'm starting to think De Gea might be off sooner than I thought (he is always gong to go though). Hopefully the reports about this contract discussion are true.
Daily Mail claims to have sourced an opinion from someone "close" to his parents, which is positive about him staying.
We can all then just sit and let mighty Marcelona and Real to take whatever player they want. Cause we're a small club compard to them right?
It's not just about playing for the biggest clubs in the world, you have to have a healthy life off the pitch too. If those words are true from his family (as well as DDG saying he is happy), then why are people so sure he is leaving?
They're right; the scrutiny he would face would be intense. One mistake and the backlash from the media would be more intense than what it was like here
No but the the guy has a point. Real and FCB have everything going for them great club history, great competition (la liga), great popularity, a lot of money and are great cities to live in. The last point is probably the biggest thing going against us atm and possibly the fact that for a lot of players it is their childhood dream to play at one of those clubs e.g Cristiano
That being said Ed Woodward and co must do everything humanly possible to try and keep big Dave, he is practically irreplaceable and would be a huge blow if he leaves.
Well said.
For me it is because his girlfriend is living in Spain. I actually think if that was not the case then I'd be at ease with the whole thing.
Plus the weather. I've been brought up in the rainy north west of Europe but if I could do the same job - surrounded by all my old friends and family - somewhere with sunshine guaranteed for 6 months every year I'd bite your hand off. And that's without spending the first couple of decades of my life living in exactly that climate.
That and the food. Manchester's a nice wee city but Madrid is on a whole other level when it comes to places to go eating and drinking of an evening. He might not be into that sort of stuff, though. We should hope he isn't anyway.
That and the food. Manchester's a nice wee city but Madrid is on a whole other level when it comes to places to go eating and drinking of an evening. He might not be into that sort of stuff, though. We should hope he isn't anyway.
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The only thing Manchester has over Madrid is the ability to get a chip barm and gravy. And at the end of the day, Dave should be able to sort that out for himself in his own kitchen.
Depends, what is the Donut situation in Madrid?
I agree. Id love to have Bale, I remember back when he was at Spurs and everyone was saying he was shit compared to Nani, being in a minority suggesting that was not the case. He is a great player and while he has improved in recent years, he has been a great player for longer than your average poster on here has admitted it.
BUT
The idea of a DDG PLUS cash deal for Bale does not look a good one to me. I could countenance a straight swap, just about. Bale would certainly offer us something different and presumably would stay for many years. But DDG offers us just as much. Its easy to be dismissive of keepers but the confidence the whole team gets from having a great keeper at the back is huge - albeit very difficult to quantify. The thought of going through the whole palava we went through after Schmeiks left fills me with dread, there really arent a lot of keepers out there capable of excelling for a club like United. Look at Howard, he has been outstanding for Everton, it shows you cant just assume a good keeper for a club like that will be a good keeper for us.
We have a fantastic keeper who is young, if he can be convinced to stay we should do everything we can to ensure he does, regardless of what Madrid offer. If he wants to go though, I wouldnt blame him for that, we just have to hope Woodward extracts a good deal out of it for us.
His girlfriend may be in Spain, but his one true love is in England. Dave would never leave Juan.
So Mata is going to Madrid as well?
Big Dave is special to all of us, in many cases our best player and never want him gone but if push came to shove the only way I'd be less upset if he left would be if we got Bale as a direct replacement.
If the love story theory is true (which it is) then they've have to buy the 3 amigos and since they're Madrid I'd want cost price!
De Gea - £50m
Mata - £38.5m
Herrera - £30m
Your move.. Madrid!
Yeah, a straight swap for Bale would leave me feeling pretty neutral. Not exactly delighted - as I would be if we kept DDG and signed Bale. But not pissed off either.
All true, but then why did he leave Madrid in the first place? He was young enough back then and just started his relationship with his current gf and still left. He could have easily stayed in Madrid for a few years and moved later if he wanted. That's why I hope he is not that desperate to go back to Spain for the time being.
Valdes won't be around for much longer, he's 32 and doesn't strike me as a goalkeeper that will age particularly well. He might have some fuel left in the tank but it could only last for 3-4 more years at which point we will have to look for a goalkeeper again and of all clubs we have learned best how difficult it is to find a reliable one.
With climate going crazy maybe in the future Manchester will be a sunny capital of the world and Madrid will be rainy as hell.
For instance this summer I heard Scotland was warm and sunny and here it was rain 90 percent of the time, at the coast too which is the worst.
What better way to weaken DDG's negotiating position than to sign a GK who has won literally everything. Up until now his agent has had us by the balls as he knew we couldn't afford to let him leave. Now, its not quite so much the case.