Paul Pogba

[Barney]

Pogba is being massively overrated I think. Everything you hear and read from journos makes it seem like he's still inconsistent and he needs to improve massively in that aspect.

Anyone that would pick Bale over Pogba needs to watch more football.

Comments like these are ridiculous.

 

[RedorDead21]

Pogba is being massively overrated I think. Everything you hear and read from journos makes it seem like he's still inconsistent and he needs to improve massively in that aspect.



Comments like these are ridiculous.

The worlds most expensive player doesnt lace the boots of a 21 year old juve midfielder with his future ahead of him.....

 

[Ibi Dreams]

Why on earth is Pogba being compared to Mata? They are nothing alike and play in different positions

 

[NoLogo]

Pogba is being massively overrated I think. Everything you hear and read from journos makes it seem like he's still inconsistent and he needs to improve massively in that aspect.

Of course Pogba has some maturing to do but he is 21 so that's to be expected. But I don't think that anyone out there doubts anymore that his potential is through the roof and that it would take a lot of bad fortune for the lad to not be considered the best midfielder in the world within the next 3-4 years. So maybe he is a tad overrated if you only take into account his current form but I guess most people don't just rate him by that but also by what he might become in a few years.

 

[RedorDead21]

Why on earth is Pogba being compared to Mata? They are nothing alike and play in different positions

Di Maria and Rooney aint alike but they swapped positions ages ago!

 

[Scarecrow]

Pogba is being massively overrated I think. Everything you hear and read from journos makes it seem like he's still inconsistent and he needs to improve massively in that aspect.



Comments like these are ridiculous.

He has already improved massively in that aspect to be fair. I don't know what journos you're referring to but he's comfortably among the top 3 players in Italy this season. He's inconsistent in the sense that every three or four good games he has an outrageously good one that puts to shame his previous and next performance. He very rarely has an actual bad game though, at least this season. He's a player that could provide genuine flashes of genius on the pitch every now and then (does it more and more often) but even when he doesn't, when he has "a quiet game", he still puts solid performances and very rarely disappoints. At least in the games I've watched.

 

[mu77]

imagine if you will fergie not being so fixed on certain players in the squad and adding to the squad. welsh left winger , giggs replacement , sign for spurs for next to f**kall , pogba on the books already , both growing into the side together. we went for young and TC23. jesus wept!

 

[Barney]

He has already improved massively in that aspect to be fair. I don't know what journos you're referring to but he's comfortably among the top 3 players in Italy this season. He's inconsistent in the sense that every three or four good games he has an outrageously good one that puts to shame his previous and next performance. He very rarely has an actual bad game though, at least this season.

James Richardson for one and I would tend to trust his views over those of the caf when it comes to a player who United supporters are desperate to get back.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Err Juan Mata at Chelsea ...their player of the year 2 seasons running I could say for his position he is/was every bit as good as Pogba and Herrera in Spain tipped by everyone and his dog to be a mainstay in the Spanish team for the next decade and one of the best midfielders outside Barca/Real. You talk like just because we play Di Maria as a striker and now he's no better than Downing then another class player is now miles better than him.......

Quality post.

Tipped by everyone to be a mainstay? Wow. He hasn't even made the squad once yet and to be perfectly honest he can't even feel hard done by given their midfield - and that's with Xavi and Alonso retiring. He'll eventually make the squad, I'm sure, but he'll never be a first choice player at Spain.

 

[Mister_Stubbs]

Pogba is being massively overrated I think. Everything you hear and read from journos makes it seem like he's still inconsistent and he needs to improve massively in that aspect.

You'd be one to know a thing or two about overrated midfield players

 

[Needham]

Spending tens of millions to buy a player the club had and let go would be a parallel universe style disaster. It would end up like the merger of Time Warner and AOL, looking like a good idea in theory but a balls up due to overvaluation of content. And please don't say 'your talking shit' because as you type those words you'll really be thinking 'this guy has a point'.

 

[RedorDead21]

Spending tens of millions to buy a player the club had and let go would be a parallel universe style disaster. It would end up like the merger of Time Warner and AOL, looking like a good idea in theory but a balls up due to overvaluation of content. And please don't say 'your talking shit' because as you type those words you'll really be thinking 'this guy has a point'.

A valid business point not a valid football point dont confuse them.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Herrera better than Pogba? haha, don't make me laugh. Herrera isn't close to Pogba.

If Pogba was spanish, I can guarantee you he would be in the national team, whilst Herrera doesn't even have 1 cap lol.

This. Did you see what he did in the friendly against Spain? The lads just something else.

 

[thepolice123]

This. Did you see what he did in the friendly against Spain? The lads just something else.

Must be amazing since it was against mighty Spain in the greatest friendly game.

 

[izec]

FFS what is this discussion about Herrera, Mata etc. What is the problem with some of you, Pogba has nothing to do with both of them. Throw the money at him and Juve. 60, 70m i dont care, just bring him in.

 

[Scarecrow]

James Richardson for one and I would tend to trust his views over those of the caf when it comes to a player who United supporters are desperate to get back.

That's your choice. Just sharing my personal view.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Must be amazing since it was against mighty Spain in the greatest friendly game.

Ye it was. It's a shame you missed it.

 

[JPRouve]

No one asked me, but Pogba is a special player and potential because he is technically as good as a player like Modric and physically as good as a player like Yaya Touré, due to his young age he lacks the consistency and will only display is absolute best every five games, but i believe that this player can be the best midfielder ever.

 

[luckyspurs]

By virtue of him being really fun to watch, I'd love you to sign him back into the Premier League as soon as possible. Same goes for De Bruyne too.

 

[Crackers]

Even a Spurs fan wants us to sign him! Feck me, I'm turning into a right muppet.

 

[kouroux]

No one asked me, but Pogba is a special player and potential because he is technically as good as a player like Modric and physically as good as a player like Yaya Touré, due to his young age he lacks the consistency and will only display is absolute best every five games, but i believe that this player can be the best midfielder ever.

I agree with everything except maybe not him becoming the best midfielder ever. Enough potential to become in his role in the world without a doubt.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

We need a French man.

 

[Sam]

Everytime I watch Pogba play he impresses me. But I can't help shift that niggling doubt that the pure hype (plus ridiculous fee) would lead to him flopping, especially if he returned to United. It also doesn't help that he's doing the business is such a crap Italian league.

I just don't think this is the sure fire bet kind of signing that everyone thinks.

 

[Borys]

The caf's love-in for Pogba is embarrassing to say the least. I'm not even half convinced that we need him considering the fact that we have 3 players (Mata, Herrara, Di Maria) playing in the same position who are probably as good or even better than him. Our priorities should be defenders and strikers, not yet another midfielder. We have no problems controlling games this season, it is our leaky as feck defence and toothless strikeforce that are hindering us. Pogba would not solve any problems.

Ridiculous post. “Herrara” is the closest thing to a midfielder like Pogba, although he feels most comfortable higher up the pitch. Di Maria I would play in midfield but there is no reason why Pogba couldn’t play there too. Mata is so far away from being a midfielder it’s not worth to discuss.

Err Juan Mata at Chelsea ...their player of the year 2 seasons running I could say for his position he is/was every bit as good as Pogba and Herrera in Spain tipped by everyone and his dog to be a mainstay in the Spanish team for the next decade and one of the best midfielders outside Barca/Real. You talk like just because we play Di Maria as a striker and now he's no better than Downing then another class player is now miles better than him.......

In his position he is (or was) excellent for Chelsea. But what’s the point in saying “player X was as good as Y” if their role is completely different? I could say right now “yeah but there’s no point buying Pogba because Valencia was a fantastic winger in 2011/12”. Makes as much sense as your post.

Your suggesting someone who said they were as good were far off the mark! Why do you even bother talking about positions anymore have you seen the contempt LVG has for that logic. You should be asking yourself will Pogba be a good right wing back or dislodge RVP.

Di Maria and Rooney aint alike but they swapped positions ages ago!

Such post make football discussion, or in fact any discussion, very difficult. Don’t know what you’re trying to prove.

 

[Offside]

Everytime I watch Pogba play he impresses me. But I can't help shift that niggling doubt that the pure hype (plus ridiculous fee) would lead to him flopping, especially if he returned to United. It also doesn't help that he's doing the business is such a crap Italian league.

I just don't think this is the sure fire bet kind of signing that everyone thinks.

He'd probably be a complete beast here to be fair. This signing would give us an unreal, dynamic midfield with depth.

 

[Barney]

By virtue of him being really fun to watch, I'd love you to sign him back into the Premier League as soon as possible. Same goes for De Bruyne too.

Just watch Serie A. Feck strengthening your top four rivals.

 

[Cheesy]

Everytime I watch Pogba play he impresses me. But I can't help shift that niggling doubt that the pure hype (plus ridiculous fee) would lead to him flopping, especially if he returned to United. It also doesn't help that he's doing the business is such a crap Italian league.

I just don't think this is the sure fire bet kind of signing that everyone thinks.

He wouldn't be a sure fire bet, admittedly, but very few signings out there are. There's usually an element of risk to most buys.

 

[Sied]

Just watch Serie A. Feck strengthening your top four rivals.

Don't worry, we won't be your top 4 rivals after this season when we're competing for the league again

 

[Americano]

Spending tens of millions to buy a player the club had and let go would be a parallel universe style disaster. It would end up like the merger of Time Warner and AOL, looking like a good idea in theory but a balls up due to overvaluation of content. And please don't say 'your talking shit' because as you type those words you'll really be thinking 'this guy has a point'.

I cannot disagree more strongly. The past means nothing and only a fool would ignore an opportunity to buy back something useful at market price because he once had it for nothing. Pogba is a useful asset for the club and he will provide value. He has youth, talent, and sell-on value. We could potentially make money even if we pay 60M for him, by selling him in 5 years for more than that. The total cost of owning him will be lower than a player like Vidal who will have no sell-on value when his first contract with us winds down. And a younger player is typically on lower wages. I cannot see any reason to prevent us from buying him.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I cannot disagree more strongly. The past means nothing and only a fool would ignore an opportunity to buy back something useful at market price because he once had it for nothing. Pogba is a useful asset for the club and he will provide value. He has youth, talent, and sell-on value. We could potentially make money even if we pay 60M for him, by selling him in 5 years for more than that. The total cost of owning him will be lower than a player like Vidal who will have no sell-on value when his first contract with us winds down. And a younger player is typically on lower wages. I cannot see any reason to prevent us from buying him.

That is why I can't understand Juventus even considering selling him. They are then left with Vidal, though I supppose they maybe want to make their money sooner rather than later.

 

[mu77]

I cannot disagree more strongly. The past means nothing and only a fool would ignore an opportunity to buy back something useful at market price because he once had it for nothing. Pogba is a useful asset for the club and he will provide value. He has youth, talent, and sell-on value. We could potentially make money even if we pay 60M for him, by selling him in 5 years for more than that. The total cost of owning him will be lower than a player like Vidal who will have no sell-on value when his first contract with us winds down. And a younger player is typically on lower wages. I cannot see any reason to prevent us from buying him.

only a fool would let him go in the first place , oh right. to buy him back at 60m is a pretty expensive mistake. does fergie still get a paid by united? if so isn't that like paying bonuses to corporate heads that put their companies , let's say a bank , out of business?

 

[DWelbz19]

Just watch Serie A. Feck strengthening your top four rivals.

To be fair, with the resources the club has and the now willingness to spend, we won't be Spurs (no disrespect) rivals within the next two years, so he might as well enjoy the style of football from the sides competing for the title.

 

[Americano]

only a fool would let him go in the first place , oh right. to buy him back at 60m is a pretty expensive mistake. does fergie still get a paid by united? if so isn't that like paying bonuses to corporate heads that put their companies , let's say a bank , out of business?

The previous administration made a mistake. We accept that and put it in the past. We can't afford to compound their mistake by letting emotions affect our current decision-making.

Buying Pogba today at market value is smart business.

 

[Brightonian]

Eh these 2 always pretty much impress! Thats got nothing to do with LVG!

Oh ok, I see what you're saying. Carrick was awful under Moyes, so you could potentially give LVG some credit for that. Although the fact that Carrick was our Players' POTY in 2012/13 and has resumed that sort of excellence again this season suggests that it's more a case of Moyes being shite than LVG being especially brilliant.

 

[Gannicus]

I'm torn on this one.

Pogba not only is a special talent, he's got charisma, a quality that's in short supply in our squad.

But I hope Pogba isn't seen as the final solution to our midfield woes. We really do need a defensive midfielder who's already shed the training wheels and can be plugged into Louis's "philosophy" (though I'm suffering from grave doubts about him now, given that he persists with this ridiculous 352/532 which allows us to grind out points but always puts us on the knife's edge of dropping points) immediately.

I'm also an admirer of Mata and even the besmirched Herrera. But we couldn't possibly find enough playing time for Pogba, Mata, Herrera and a proper defensive midfielder, not to mention Carrick and Blind, could we?

Seems to me that if we go with Pogba that he has to be part of a massive rebuild of our midfield, not just a tweak. The tweak we need is someone like Strootman. But if we go with Pogba surely that means the end of Mata or Herrera, possibly both.

 

[golden_blunder]

Spending tens of millions to buy a player the club had and let go would be a parallel universe style disaster. It would end up like the merger of Time Warner and AOL, looking like a good idea in theory but a balls up due to overvaluation of content. And please don't say 'your talking shit' because as you type those words you'll really be thinking 'this guy has a point'.

You're talking shit

And no I didn't think it

 

[Needham]

You're talking shit

And no I didn't think it

Liar. You must have done to process the information.

 

[RedRover]

Oh ok, I see what you're saying. Carrick was awful under Moyes, so you could potentially give LVG some credit for that. Although the fact that Carrick was our Players' POTY in 2012/13 and has resumed that sort of excellence again this season suggests that it's more a case of Moyes being shite than LVG being especially brilliant.

Or just the common fluctuation in a players form over a given period. At Carrick's age he's unlikely to be precious about who's picking the team, especially since he's playing broadly the sane position under Fergie, Moyes and Van Gaal.

 

[Deleted member 78215]

Spending tens of millions to buy a player the club had and let go would be a parallel universe style disaster. It would end up like the merger of Time Warner and AOL, looking like a good idea in theory but a balls up due to overvaluation of content. And please don't say 'your talking shit' because as you type those words you'll really be thinking 'this guy has a point'.

The fact that we 'sold' him for nothing is irrelevant now. Sunk cost and all that. He's a Juve player, he's a great player and if we can get him, we should.

 

[Still ill]

Spending tens of millions to buy a player the club had and let go would be a parallel universe style disaster. It would end up like the merger of Time Warner and AOL, looking like a good idea in theory but a balls up due to overvaluation of content. And please don't say 'your talking shit' because as you type those words you'll really be thinking 'this guy has a point'.

Completely wrong, smarty pants. What I was actually thinking was that you've misspellt 'you're'.