Yes mate my thoughts exactly in a more articulate form. Some of the negativity about this Performance is bizarre IMO
PL W FA Premier League
Newcastle United 0:1 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Wed, 04 March 2015
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I thought it was a step back after 2 games in which our tempo was a bit better.
Not disappointed I couldn't get the game on my phone, I listened to it, sounded a stinker, again. Happy to beat to Toon though.
Just in from a Noel Gallagher gig....Saw the stats on my phone.
69% possession and only 5 shots on goal?!
Fill me in here, should I be worried?
69% possession and only 5 shots on goal?!
Fill me in here, should I be worried?
Same shit, different game.
positive is this time we managed to get 3 points from an away game, and we kept composure until the end and kept trying to get the goal.
My scouser mate texted me the same thing, except he said De Gea stopped us from losing....True?!
If so, I've had enough of that. He's been called upon almost more times then Schmikes
They had a stonewall penalty turned down and missed a couple of sitters, alongside other chances. It was weird, we seemed to be in control throughout, but in terms of chances, there wasn't too much separating us.
First things first, why do you have a scouser mate and why do you listen to him? Secondly why dont you watch the highlights and make up your own fecking mind?
Im sorry, I must be in a timewarp, I thought we won the game I must be wrong.
Because some of us don't have the capacity to watch highlights at 1:22 in the morning!!
Does that answer your question?!
I asked people to fill me in...Simple as that....Yano why?! Because I clearly can't see any highlights!!!
Well he made 2 very important saves but we should have been 2-0 up in the first half.
The thing was Newcastle just didn't seem like a motivated team at all today, which is understandable considering their league position. Either way I'm just happy we still have top 4 in our own hands.
No all in all it was a deserved win from our point of view. It wasn't a case of a smash and grab as we were in control for most of the game and should have taken our chances before. I can see why your scouser mate said De Gea stopped us from losing but it wasn't the case where he had to make absolute worldie saves, he did the job you would expect from any top class keeper.
In my opinion they were clear, as were a couple of fouls we should have got and didn't. The ref was terrible.
I also think their chances were better aside from Rooney's where he put it wide
About the goal. Amazing what a bit of urgency in play can do and not just for you but to your opponent
Yet you take the word of a scouser
3 points. Just showed that RvP and Falcao are holding us back with the annihilation we carried out on Newcastle.
Nooooooooo!
I said my scouse supporting mate said such and such and asked was it true....I got two balanced answers from people here and then I had you jumping down my throat
Look at you trying to talk sense to those who made their minds up in August Mockney. 10 internet points for you mate
I wasnt I was clearly telling you to wait and see for yourself
I can't! That's the thing! I'm here with a bandy laptop, that can barely support RedCafe and my lad in my hand
We were miles better then them. Tell your Scouser friend he's an idiot.
They didn't have any sitters.
They should have had a penalty, and they had a good chance early on in the first half. That was about it. We had far better chances, and a goal wrongfully disallowed.
I watched the match again, and Newcastle were very, very defensive in the match. They had 11 men behind the ball for much of the match, and it made it difficult for us to create through the middle, particularly as Fellaini wasn't that good at making himself available for a link-up play through the middle. Plus, our wingers were frequently double-teamed, making it difficult for them to create chances. With Newcastle sitting back like they did, it was tough or us to play a pass through the middle, and I will also attribute this to us building up slower than we did against Sunderland.
these close games were the type of games we weren't winning last season. Just glad we got 3 points.
We should also keep in mind that Newcastle beat Chelsea, Liverpool, and Everton at St. James Park, and they were also down to 10 men against Chelsea. Against Chelsea, they played similar to the way they played against us, so it was never going to be easy to get a win here.
Still, though, the fact that we did have some clear-cut opportunities but didn't capitalise on them is quite disappointing. This match shouldn't have been this close on the scoreline, but whatever, 3 points is 3 points in the end.
There are only two in form attackers at the entire club right now (Rooney and Young). That's rarely enough to break down a well organised side, and so it's proving.
LvG is currently using Young well, but Rooney should be behind the striker where he can influence the build-up in the final third. He's spent far too much time this season either too deep or too high up.
LvG is currently using Young well, but Rooney should be behind the striker where he can influence the build-up in the final third. He's spent far too much time this season either too deep or too high up.
We created 4-5 really good chances and we should have scored earlier than we did. Some of our final ball still is poor but pur movement was much better today. It was not possession without penetration. We tried several times but sometimes things don't come off. At least we have a numbet of positives to take back from this game apart from the three points.
I do get a kick out of the fact that us getting 3pts without a great performance seems to genuinely anger the pundits and journalists.
I thought we did pretty well considering we were playing against a team that had pretty much parked the bus. We created decent number of chances and if was not for Krul making a very good save of Fellani, Young taking his own sweet time on the follow up, Rooney taking his chances or not getting called offside wrongly or for that matter Di Maria having the guts to shoot with his right leg when he was put through by Rooney, we would have won comfortably.
I don't get this bit about De Gea bailing us out. A keeper at a top club would be expected to make the saves that he made yesterday. He has bailed us out on other occasions but yesterday was not one of them.
I don't get this bit about De Gea bailing us out. A keeper at a top club would be expected to make the saves that he made yesterday. He has bailed us out on other occasions but yesterday was not one of them.
Yes, Noel's career, while technically still functioning, is artistically moribund.
Long gone is the vibrant, iconoclastic effervescent anthem crafting terrace genius, and in his place is left a meandering, MOR, Dad-rock curmudgeon who is more light entertainer than musician and is a stale husk of their former self.
Next time Sleaford Mods are in town, check them instead, they'll blow the cobwebs out that Noel and his ilk are so keen on maintaining.
Oh, you meant the game!? No, we totally dominated them and put in a very good performance away from home
Watching us is like seeing the replay of the same performances since the beginning of the season. Slow, ponderous, and clueless in the final third.
Here's our genius philosophy:
De Gea picks the ball, passes it to the nearest central defender, who then passes it to his partner, who passes it to either one of FB's, ball back from the FB's to the other defender, who then passes to the other FB, who gives the ball to the DM, the DM tippy-tappy's it to the other midfielder, pass it to Valencia, who then tries to beat his man and cannot, passes it back to one of the CM's, who then tries to pass it to the striker, who shimes, cannot get through and passes it to the wide player, a bunch of slow passes between the front players, to one of the wide players, cross, one of the many opposition defenders who have regained positon and maintained their shape due the slow nature of attack, clear the ball. Rinse and repeat.
That is our plan for the majority of the game.
In the middle of this, we get hit by opposition counter 5 or 6 times in the game where either De Gea has to pull a miraculous save, their shit striker shanks the shot, or we concede.
I have watched this on repeat mode for around 35 times this season.
I don't know what Van Gaal is doing with this team? Does anyone see this tactic working against one of the better teams?
What was the point of playing Fellaini in the game yesterday? What was his role?
Why was Di Maria taken off right after he created 2 or 3 of our best chances in the game?
Terrible football and baffling decisions game after game. What has improved?
And before anyone throws that we were the "better team" and "only if we finished our chances" bullshit.
We weren't the better team, we were the team with most possession as Newcastle allowed us to. They were set-up to play on the counter. It is easy for these teams to play against us due to the slow nature of our attack. We played the entire game at pedestrian speed in front of their defense.
They didn't get a penalty, De Gea had to make a super save to stop their attacker, Riviere had two chances from which he should have scored, De Gea had to make a brilliant save to prevent Cisse's header from going in, Cisse shanked a shot one on one with De Gea. They could have made us suffer "if they had taken their chances" too. The logic that "only if we would have taken our chances" doesn't wash. If we are considering it, then we have to take it in account for both teams.
Here's our genius philosophy:
De Gea picks the ball, passes it to the nearest central defender, who then passes it to his partner, who passes it to either one of FB's, ball back from the FB's to the other defender, who then passes to the other FB, who gives the ball to the DM, the DM tippy-tappy's it to the other midfielder, pass it to Valencia, who then tries to beat his man and cannot, passes it back to one of the CM's, who then tries to pass it to the striker, who shimes, cannot get through and passes it to the wide player, a bunch of slow passes between the front players, to one of the wide players, cross, one of the many opposition defenders who have regained positon and maintained their shape due the slow nature of attack, clear the ball. Rinse and repeat.
That is our plan for the majority of the game.
In the middle of this, we get hit by opposition counter 5 or 6 times in the game where either De Gea has to pull a miraculous save, their shit striker shanks the shot, or we concede.
I have watched this on repeat mode for around 35 times this season.
I don't know what Van Gaal is doing with this team? Does anyone see this tactic working against one of the better teams?
What was the point of playing Fellaini in the game yesterday? What was his role?
Why was Di Maria taken off right after he created 2 or 3 of our best chances in the game?
Terrible football and baffling decisions game after game. What has improved?
And before anyone throws that we were the "better team" and "only if we finished our chances" bullshit.
We weren't the better team, we were the team with most possession as Newcastle allowed us to. They were set-up to play on the counter. It is easy for these teams to play against us due to the slow nature of our attack. We played the entire game at pedestrian speed in front of their defense.
They didn't get a penalty, De Gea had to make a super save to stop their attacker, Riviere had two chances from which he should have scored, De Gea had to make a brilliant save to prevent Cisse's header from going in, Cisse shanked a shot one on one with De Gea. They could have made us suffer "if they had taken their chances" too. The logic that "only if we would have taken our chances" doesn't wash. If we are considering it, then we have to take it in account for both teams.
Krul making saves was not a part of his job?
The Fellani one that he saved he bailed them out. The other ones were saves he would be expected to make.
Exactly.
That was one of the easiest games we will have this season and we made heavy weather of it.
I think the match was a step in the right direction. Apart from a couple of times we were in complete control, Newcastle's biggest chance came after a massive feck up by Herrera. We looked solid in defense, and we seemed to pick the ball from Newcastle pretty easily with our midfield. To me this was a big improvement, and a probable sign of LvG steadying the ship. I mean, Evans actually looked like a footballer, a couple of matches ago I declared his death at a professional level.
Last, we created at least five big chances and were unlucky not to be up at least 2-0 by half time (barred the clear Newc. penalty).
The match wasn't perfect, we're still moving the ball too slowly around on too many occasions. We're too often using two moves instead of one, which still annoys me. But this wasn't that far from what we were like the last few seasons under SAF, we often played shit football but got the result. I had that same feeling this time, I was waiting for that late goal yesterday.
Good team performance, but please get AdM sorted.
Last, we created at least five big chances and were unlucky not to be up at least 2-0 by half time (barred the clear Newc. penalty).
The match wasn't perfect, we're still moving the ball too slowly around on too many occasions. We're too often using two moves instead of one, which still annoys me. But this wasn't that far from what we were like the last few seasons under SAF, we often played shit football but got the result. I had that same feeling this time, I was waiting for that late goal yesterday.
Good team performance, but please get AdM sorted.
How the feck is Newcastle away one of the easiest Games of the season?
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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21%
Wayne Rooney
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15%
Ashley Young
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2%
Ander Herrera
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2%
Daley Blind
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2%
Jonny Evans
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2%
Marouane Fellaini
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2%
Antonio Valencia
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1%
Chris Smalling
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1%
Marcos Rojo
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
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Compiled from 486 ratings.
Score Predictions
394,51,102
- Man Utd win
- Newcastle win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 29% Newcastle 1:2 Man Utd
- 14% Newcastle 1:1 Man Utd
- 13% Newcastle 0:2 Man Utd
- 11% Newcastle 1:3 Man Utd
- 7% Newcastle 0:1 Man Utd
- 5% Newcastle 0:3 Man Utd
- 3% Newcastle 2:1 Man Utd
- 2% Newcastle 2:2 Man Utd
- 2% Newcastle 0:5 Man Utd
- 2% Newcastle 2:0 Man Utd
- 2% Newcastle 1:0 Man Utd
- 2% Newcastle 2:3 Man Utd
- 2% Newcastle 0:4 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 1:4 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 3:0 Man Utd
- 1% Newcastle 3:1 Man Utd
- 0% Newcastle 5:0 Man Utd
- 0% Newcastle 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% Newcastle 5:5 Man Utd
- 0% Newcastle 3:3 Man Utd
- 0% Newcastle 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Newcastle 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Newcastle 4:0 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Newcastle
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 32% 68%
- Shots
- 9 11
- Shots on Target
- 2 5
- Corners
- 4 1
- Fouls
- 6 14
Referee
Anthony Taylor
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