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2014-15 Performances

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37
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14
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His usual useless game on Merseyside.

He's not played well for weeks but our other options are even worse so he's go no real competition.
 
Dr. Funkenstein said:
I don't think he's past it, he has always been like that. Technically he has never been amongst the most gifted, he always had matches with lots of poor touches when not in form. He's a top player because he combines decent skill with agility, industry, fight and vison, not because he's as gifted as he was made out to be in his early years.
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how is he agile? he's everything but agile. He's no more top player, which season are you watching, it's the general thinking and overrating because of his name on his back that makes you think this, surely that must be it.. there's no other explanation.. he was very different and much better player three/four years ago.. he lost yards of pace and agility which made him so lethal, he could beat a player, he adjusted quite well, it's true his vision's good but how many times he had all the time to make such creative pass? His technique lets him down a lot.

Rooney's great finisher, has a good shot but long time I've seen him to release something which wasn't blocked or sent to stands or just to the hands of goalkeeper (his stupid chips). We have no better striker now but we can do better I am sure of it
 
Rezyuz said:
Pretty much yeah, but i still rather have a RVP out of form then a Rooney out of form.
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Well that's not a fecking shock, is it? At least when Rooney doesn't play well, he presses well and runs in behind. What the feck has RVP done in the last two years apart from moaning like a little tart? People thought it'd change when Van Gaal come in but he's been worse.

Rezyuz said:
Apart from the horrible defending, naming 1 goal...5 weeks ago? Which was already a winning game hardly makes a difference.

Where was he against liverpool? city? today? If you cannot rely on your sole striker to net in his chances (and he had plenty) then GG
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Horrible defending? Not sure Van Persie or Falcao would have done that.

Also, i'm not just talking about his goals, i'm talking about what he does that helps the team, i.e. pressing, runs in behind, etc. That's why Van Gaal said he is playing up top because its best for the 'TEAM'.

As for plenty of chances that's just rubbish.
 
Saw a 'blessing in disguise' post earlier here.

We'll see how will that one feel if he's injured for a while.

COuld be better but RVP and Falcao are even worse..
 
m1y2 said:
how is he agile? he's everything but agile. He's no more top player, which season are you watching, it's the general thinking and overrating because of his name on his back that makes you think this, surely that must be it.. there's no other explanation.. he was very different and much better player three/four years ago.. he lost yards of pace and agility which made him so lethal, he could beat a player, he adjusted quite well, it's true his vision's good but how many times he had all the time to make such creative pass? His technique lets him down a lot.

Rooney's great finisher, has a good shot but long time I've seen him to release something which wasn't blocked or sent to stands or just to the hands of goalkeeper (his stupid chips). We have no better striker now but we can do better I am sure of it
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on the sunday supplement today one of the guys was saying how well Rooney played in midfield last week and seems to be getting better no matter where he is asked to play. truly mindboggling
 
Mrs Smoker said:
He's done alright against tougher teams.

Aston Villa 14
Arsenal 12
Fulham 12
West Ham United 12
Manchester City 11
Newcastle 11
Portsmouth 10
Tottenham 10
Wigan 10
Bolton 9
Chelsea 9
Hull City 7
WBA 7
Milan 6
Sunderland 6
Liverpool 5
Middlesbrough 5
Birmingham City 4
Blackburn 4
Everton 4
Reading 4
Roma 4
Athletic Bilbao 3
Fenerbahçe 3
Norwich City 3
QPR 3
Sheffield United 3
Southampton 3
Stoke City 3
Watford 3
Wolverhampton Wanderers 3

And the rest...

Exeter City 1
Charlton Athletic 1
Debrecen 1
Barcelona 1
Schalke 04 1
Dynamo Kyiv 2
Gamba Osaka 2
LDU Quito 1
Aalborg BK 2
Porto 1
Celtic 1
Bayern Munich 1
Burnley 1
Oțelul Galați 2
Braga 1
Bayer Leverkusen 2
Crystal Palace 2
Cardiff City 1
Preston North End 1
Swansea City 1

(lost somewhere one goal)
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oh I'm not one of these "rooney doesn't turn up in the big games" people by any means.
I think he's been our most key player for years. even in the VP golden season.

It's the record away at Liverpool/Everton that is odd.
 
Mali_Zeus said:
Saw a 'blessing in disguise' post earlier here.

We'll see how will that one feel if he's injured for a while.

COuld be better but RVP and Falcao are even worse..
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Honestly rather Fellaini start up front if both Rooney and RvP are unable to start next week. Any news on his injury yet?
 
Mali_Zeus said:
Saw a 'blessing in disguise' post earlier here.

We'll see how will that one feel if he's injured for a while.

COuld be better but RVP and Falcao are even worse..
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Are they? Imo RVP's best matches this season were better than Rooney's best matches up top, and his worst matches weren't that much worse. But when he still played the quality of the team performance didn't leave any room for things like 'silent domination'.
 
Kazi said:
Honestly rather Fellaini start up front if both Rooney and RvP are unable to start next week. Any news on his injury yet?
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I was thinking this - with the way that both Chelsea and Everton have set out to nullify Fellaini, sticking him in a striker role could throw a bit of a spanner in the works for the opponent.
 
Rezyuz said:
People have given him all the excuses in the world this season. But hes failing week in week out
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I agree.

To be fair, he should not play in CM, but his striker performances has been sub par for a 300k/week striker. He does have the ability to do great things, but he has stinkers like today way to often in my opinion. The worst thing though, is even a out of form Rooney is better than our other options, which is just sad.
 
I'd still prefer Rooney on the pitch than otherwise. He's just one of those players who can pull something out of the bag..whether it's that pass that makes the goal...or the goal itself. He so wants Champions League football, no doubt about that.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
His usual useless game on Merseyside.

He's not played well for weeks but our other options are even worse so he's go no real competition.
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To be fair Persie haven't played yet as lone striker... Neither has Wilson so its not right to say that other options are even worse... Its not like Rooney was better than all of them as striker in the 352 and 442 system. Only Rooney and Falcao have played on the top in the 433 system..
 
Asger said:
To be fair Persie haven't played yet as lone striker... Neither has Wilson so its not right to say that other options are even worse... Its not like Rooney was better than all of them as striker in the 352 and 442 system. Only Rooney and Falcao have played on the top in the 433 system..
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Van Persie did in the games following Rooney's sending off vs West Ham.
 
Kazi said:
Van Persie did in the games following Rooney's sending off vs West Ham.
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Didn't Di Maria play with him as striker in those games??? I think we started the 433 system against Arsenal in FA Cup.
 
Still waiting on Gary Neville's analysis till I can properly judge his performance. I thought he quite poor, but van Gaal might have thought that was his second best performance this season.
 
Rezyuz said:
Which is pretty much the problem. Rooney always relies on the team performing great in order to perform himself.

A striker needs to be able to make something out of nothing. And Rooney does this way to little compared to his younger days. And people need to start accepting/seeing that.
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That is what I have always believed. He is a good player that performs well when the team performs well. He is not a superstar, in that, when things are going wrong he does not have the ability to take things into his own hands (feet ) and win us the game. This is why I have never wanted him to be the main man in our team. He just does not have that skill level.
Aside from this I am not surprised he was ineffective today, as I have said repeatedly, no striker can perform well with the lack of creativity we have in central midfield.
 
Wasn't good today but he doesn't deserve to be singled out.
 
We badly need a top class #9 if we are playing one upfront. He isn't that sort of player, although id argue there isn't really a place for a player like him in the system we play.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Well that's not a fecking shock, is it? At least when Rooney doesn't play well, he presses well and runs in behind. What the feck has RVP done in the last two years apart from moaning like a little tart? People thought it'd change when Van Gaal come in but he's been worse.



Horrible defending? Not sure Van Persie or Falcao would have done that.

Also, i'm not just talking about his goals, i'm talking about what he does that helps the team, i.e. pressing, runs in behind, etc. That's why Van Gaal said he is playing up top because its best for the 'TEAM'.

As for plenty of chances that's just rubbish.
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Well he's only scored 7 fewer than Rooney, despite being injured a fair bit, and as for the moaning, I really don't get where that comes from. Apart from one comment last year where he complained about people being in his space, I don't recall any moaning from RVP. And I really don't find that comment any worse than Rooney's non-celebrating in the first game of last season.

Just to be clear, I think RVP has underwhelmed over the last 2 seasons, but I don't think Rooney's been much better. He had a few good runs of form last season, but this season has been pretty patchy, as far as I'm concerned.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Well that's not a fecking shock, is it? At least when Rooney doesn't play well, he presses well and runs in behind. What the feck has RVP done in the last two years apart from moaning like a little tart? People thought it'd change when Van Gaal come in but he's been worse.
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To be fair though, in his first season he showed us what a striker should be achieving in a Manchester United shirt.
26 goals in the league, will Rooney get to half of that this season? Probably not, he hasn't done in half of the seasons since he joined us.
This is why people will be calling for RVP, fond memories of a striker that looked unstoppable.
 
m1tch said:
To be fair though, in his first season he showed us what a striker should be achieving in a Manchester United shirt.
26 goals in the league, will Rooney get to half of that this season? Probably not, he hasn't done in half of the seasons since he joined us.
This is why people will be calling for RVP, fond memories of a striker that looked unstoppable.
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The 2012 RVP was magical. Not just scoring too, his all round game was amazing that year.
 
I don't think he was bad today but considering his abilities as a lone striker he should be definitely scoring more goals to warrant place up front. You could always rely on his goalscoring abilities but in last three games against good opposition he barely had shot on goal even though we as a team played two good games, and he scored just one goal in last five games and that was against Aston Villa at home even though he was our most forward player during that time. Recently, he is definitely far from player opposition defences are scared of.
 
Kag said:
If I never have to witness that pass out wide to Valencia ever again I'll be a happy man.
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I wish I could shock him every time he does it. He might look up for once and find a better option instead of mindlessly hitting it wide to Valencia every time.
Kag said:
I disagree. His best ever season was when playing as the central forward. He's too predictable behind the striker, slows down the tempo and the way we currently operate under Van Gaal isn't conducive to the way Rooney has previously excelled in that position. So he's either right up top or on the bench, for me. I prefer the former.
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Agreed. We can't move the ball fast enough when he is in midfield against a team that defends deep.
 
At the start of the season I would have been happy if he got 10 goals and a couple of assists. He's over achieved in my books. We all know he's half the player he once was. I struggled to get over that fact, I moaned about it but there comes a time where you have to face reality. If you can get 20 decent games out of him in a season, then its worth having him around.
 
Rooney is a quality player and world class when he wants to turn up, but he simply is not repaying his salary on the football pitch. Obviously not helped by the fact he moves positions all the time but he isn't doing enough right now.
 
Good that he's not injured, we'd be up shits creek for sure if we had to start either of our other 2 #9's.
 
Hit It said:
At the start of the season I would have been happy if he got 10 goals and a couple of assists. He's over achieved in my books. We all know he's half the player he once was. I struggled to get over that fact, I moaned about it but there comes a time where you have to face reality. If you can get 20 decent games out of him in a season, then its worth having him around.
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To be fair, we all expected RVP and Falcao to destroy defences,i don't think he has overachieved, his competitors have just been terrible.
 
No striker in the world would have done well with the service today. Appalling from DDG out.
 
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