De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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Kag said:
Because De Gea, like you and I, is a human being with emotions like everybody else, irrespective of his chosen profession. If he will be a happier man in Madrid and decides to move there then all power to him. Or would people rather he stay somewhere he'd rather not be out of some overstated loyalty to some knuckle-dragging, bone-headed football fans that have inflated their role above and beyond the pointless entity it really is?

Football fans can feel as involved as they want, but they have no right to be "disgusted," or whatever word it was you used, at the possibility of De Gea choosing to leave. Being a bit narked that the best goalkeeper is leaving is understandable. Wishing he would rather stay is of course normal. But any overwhelming sense of injustice in regards to what a grown man has chosen to do for the perceived betterment of his life is taking things far too seriously.

As for being committed to the cause. On this season's evidence then I think it's fair to say that he has been. Come the summer, he'll just move and commit to another cause in another country. No biggie, really.
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He's 24 and in a long-term relationship and he can do his job in Madrid. It would be incredibly normal for a person to move in such a situation, even if he weren't from Madrid.

Fans are entitled and insane. The players have an obligation to do their best while they're here, but if they want to move they should move.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
He's been tweeting stuff like this after almost every game. I don't believe he's in this situation because he's trying to run down his contract to force a move away. I genuinely believe he is undecided. A club he appears to love, versus his home town, family, and starting a family of his own. I'd have no bitterness if he chose the latter.

I'm still keeping my Yes vote though. I still think there's a chance he could stay. Though even if he re-signs, I still think he'd only stay another 2 or 3 years, at the very most, which I'd be fairly happy with.
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He may also rate Casillas as a keeper and not be sure the move is on (who knows how clear/overt Madrid have been when tapping him or his agents up). Up until Tuesday, Madrid could have won a 2nd straight CL and maybe Casillas could have saved his job with some penalty heroics or something.
 
Shat my pants then. I'm clearly not as ready for this, emotionally speaking, as I thought I was...
 
I kind of hope we force him to stay another year. The thing that irks me is the contract situation. I hope he extends even if we agree to sell him next summer just so we get a fair price.

Offer to extend his contract, double his wages for the next year and then put a good release clause in the contract
 
The decision is tough for him because if he stays and signs he may never get another chance to go home and play for RM. If he really wants to head back to Spain and play for a huge club then this could be his only opportunity. I'm almost sure that if he had a guarantee that RM would be in for him in 3 years he would stay.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
I think your rationale is lost. What has people being disgusted with De Geas choices got to do with them no longer associating footballers as human beings ?

He is a human being and he makes choices. I understand his motives for wanting to go to Spain and living with his girlfriend yet if he choses to leave for these reasons instead of repaying the loyalty and the respect and the chances he has got from United and its supporters than I find that choice an ungratefull one and one that disgusts me. There are plenty of choices people make that disgust me.

You seem to detach football from human beings. How in godsname can you expect people to pay overpriced tickets to come and see footballers and chear them on in the cold rain when they are playing poor and losing and need the support of their fans the most yet can't demand some respect and loyalty in return for that support ? Him leaving us at this point does not show alot of loyalty or respect from his side does it ? Isn't it only human that those football fans feel frustrated perhaps a bit betrayed and disgusted by the player for those reasons ?
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This is what I think is mental. It's clear that we're on very different ends of the spectrum on this so I'm going to let it lie.

Albeit I'll make one observation in regards to your final question. I think football supporters go to watch their team because they support the club. They support what it's about and what it represents to them. Players, however, simply come and go. Footballers aren't signed for their loyalty, moreso their ability to help the team win matches.

Expecting any more than that will only lead to a constant source of disappointment when players do in fact decide to leave.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
He's been tweeting stuff like this after almost every game. I don't believe he's in this situation because he's trying to run down his contract to force a move away. I genuinely believe he is undecided. A club he appears to love, versus his home town, family, and starting a family of his own. I'd have no bitterness if he chose the latter.

I'm still keeping my Yes vote though. I still think there's a chance he could stay. Though even if he re-signs, I still think he'd only stay another 2 or 3 years, at the very most, which I'd be fairly happy with.
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At least we would get top dollar then as opposed to now.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
He's been tweeting stuff like this after almost every game. I don't believe he's in this situation because he's trying to run down his contract to force a move away. I genuinely believe he is undecided. A club he appears to love, versus his home town, family, and starting a family of his own. I'd have no bitterness if he chose the latter.

I'm still keeping my Yes vote though. I still think there's a chance he could stay. Though even if he re-signs, I still think he'd only stay another 2 or 3 years, at the very most, which I'd be fairly happy with.
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I totally agree.
 
I'm just disappointed in the way he's done it. He wants to leave then fine (not really) but at least sign a new deal so we get a big fee.
 
I get everything why he is going, and have no issue at all, but I just want it done and sorted now.

Cech is just begging to be signed and we can't afford to miss out, he is the perfect fit for the next 3-4 years.
 
Kag said:
Because De Gea, like you and I, is a human being with emotions like everybody else, irrespective of his chosen profession. If he will be a happier man in Madrid and decides to move there then all power to him. Or would people rather he stay somewhere he'd rather not be out of some overstated loyalty to some knuckle-dragging, bone-headed football fans that have inflated their role above and beyond the pointless entity it really is?

Football fans can feel as involved as they want, but they have no right to be "disgusted," or whatever word it was you used, at the possibility of De Gea choosing to leave. Being a bit narked that the best goalkeeper is leaving is understandable. Wishing he would rather stay is of course normal. But any overwhelming sense of injustice in regards to what a grown man has chosen to do for the perceived betterment of his life is taking things far too seriously.

As for being committed to the cause. On this season's evidence then I think it's fair to say that he has been. Come the summer, he'll just move and commit to another cause in another country. No biggie, really.
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Well said.
 
Must say I found it quite funny hearing the Arsenal fans chanting "He's off to Madrid, he's off to Madriiiid...David De Gea...he's off to Madrid!" :lol:

They got us there.
 
Arghhhh...not the ex-girlfriend scenarios, Herny.
*sobs*
 
Think that was the last time were going to see him in a United shirt, he got a decent send off as well. Good luck to Dave, massive opportunity for him so don't think any one surprised to see him leave.
 
I get a feeling that the contract we offer will be higher than what they offer, considering they have a higher top tax rate and the euro is weak.

Hopefully it's a good 1/3rd more. That sort of difference would be quite persuasive.
 
Bad news for us: Liverpool are replacing Mignolet with the sheet we used for DDG's medical.
 
Get as much money as possible for him (at least €30m) and drive him to the airport.

United need to improve the team in other areas a lot more than they need to keep a goalkeeper. How many saves did DDG make that saved United points this season? 10? 15?

United can buy and need to buy a serious no.9 with that €30m that will score more goals than any amount of game-saving saves DDG could make. If that makes sense!
 
If it were a done deal then surely it will be announced in the coming days. No more distractions in terms of attempting to make the CL.
 
ManUArfa said:
We need to start downloading his girlfriend's singles to get her in to the UK charts so she also has a career here:



It's no worse than any of the other s**t in the charts.
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Wow, she is really bad, can't be her singing talent that seduced our Dave.
 
Kag said:
This is what I think is mental. It's clear that we're on very different ends of the spectrum on this so I'm going to let it lie.

Albeit I'll make one observation in regards to your final question. I think football supporters go to watch their team because they support the club. They support what it's about and what it represents to them. Players, however, simply come and go. Footballers aren't signed for their loyalty, moreso their ability to help the team win matches.

Expecting any more than that will only lead to a constant source of disappointment when players do in fact decide to leave.
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How can a football club be anything or represent anything without the players. I mean sure we support the club and players come and go but in the time they are here their actions define part of the club's identity. In fact the players have to represent the club and it is that representation that can make you a fan of the club and get you to support it.

Playing football is their job, it is what they are paid to do but there is also a part emotional investment. Players must get a certain pride from representing the club from playing for it. You can't go through all the sacrifices players have to make to become good footballers if you only do it for the money. Sure they earn alot but money is not a very good motivator, that is science speaking. It only motivates to a certain extend and it has more importance of a demotivator, the lack of money demotivates players because they expect to earn a fair salary and they benchmark with other players. So beside a salary that a player earns there must be something that motivates them to play for a club else they could never reach the performances that are required on professional football at this stage.

That emotional investment is spurred on by the fans support. I mean go talk to a player and ask how it feels when 80k people are chanting your name when you are on the pitch. It is pure adrenaline, it is a kick. They want to play well and win matches and silverware for those fans in return for the support. But that support can't exist if the fans don't feel you are a part of the club, if you don't represent the club, are a part of it than such support is impossible. So yea fans pressume a certain degree of emotional investment from the players in the club else they wouldn't go out on a cold and rainy day to support them. Sure they don't support one individual but rather the team as a whole and in fact the club which has existed out of many different teams in the past but you are part of that team as a player, you are part of the club's history. So if the fans come out and cheer for the club, they cheer for you aswell.

The fans will always thank a player for great service and for loyalty. A player doesn't owe a club any loyalty imo but he does owe the club respect. The way in which you leave the club is an action to shapes the way you represent the club, it has to happen with respect for the club and its fans and beside a financial thing it is most certainly also an emotional thing. Fans need to understand why the player leaves and they need to be able to accept the way in which he leaves. The player must do everything he can to show that respect to the fans. I could accept De Geas reasons for leaving the club altough I think he leaves to soon and should have stayed atleast a couple more years also for his own career. But the way in which he leaves, with the entire contract situation feels like a dickmove from his agent. Just doesn't feel fair that we have to let him go in this situation, he should have signed a contract long ago.

I'd be far less disgusted with it if he had signed a contract renewal a year or two ago and would want to leave for Real Madrid now. I mean he'd ask to leave, we'd say ok if you want to than you can go but only if we can agree a deal with Real Madrid. And either we'd get fair compensation or Real Madrid would have to say no to the transfer.

Now it feels like De Gea (his agent) has forced us in a situation where we can basically not do anything but comply with his wish to go to Real Madrid and basically accept whatever it is that they would still want to pay for him. Feels like we have only become a detail in this entire situation, which feels wrong.
 
The club might have asked Dave to keep it quiet so they can negotiate for his replacement first. Would put us in a slightly stronger position to negotiate than if the deal had already been announced.
 
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