But he doesn't have to sacrifice. He can have it both ways.
De Gea Contract Situation
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But he doesn't have to sacrifice. He can have it both ways.
There are some who are very dedicated to Ronaldo, and also some that are bitter over the two finals against Barca (we were beaten fair and square - nothing to be bitter about IMHO), but I don't get why anyone would have Real Madrid as a second team. The last 15-odd years of how they have been run have long disconnected them from the club that acted so amazingly during the Munich tragedy. Now they are just repulsive to anyone who isn't a supporter of theirs first and foremost.
As for DDG - just get it over with. We've all known this has been coming for ages, get on with it. The reasons for him to go there are obvious, and under Benitez he'll have feck all to do given his defensive mindset compared to here where he has been put in a position to be our best player for the last two seasons. Just move on.
However I do want us to fight for a reasonable fee - we know we're not going to get market value for him because he's run his contract down, but some of the numbers we've seen are insulting. I'm not saying this in a "LET HIM ROT IN THE RESERVES!!!111" manner, but that other clubs with much less money than us manage to squeeze out decent fees for players in the last year of their contracts - for once can we please stand-up to Real.
Give us Cech u bugger!
Would prefer Lloris over Cech, he's five years younger. With Cech we'll be needing another gk in a couple of years.
Doesn't that stat depend on whether you're the kind of keeper that tends to stand on his line (like DDG) rather than a keeper that's more prone to coming out and claiming/punching every cross? From what I've seen of Begovic he is a bit more like David James in that sense. That's what I was driving at.
Tired of this now. Get a decent fee, replace him with someone other than Valdes and move on. Oh and I hope he has a rough start there and Barca wins the league every season.
IMO, de Gea is still definitely far from great at set-pieces and high balls. He has improved in that aspect since his first year but then he was really poor in that aspect anyway and had to improve however you look at it, but he is definitely still very "quiet" in those situations and decides to stay on his line more than he should. When he decides to come out for the high ball he usually picks it up safetly, which wasn't the case in his first season or two, but then he rarely decides to come out for these situations anyway, even when he should, so you can't definitely call him great in that aspect. For example, probably both times Valdes flapped in our last game de Gea would have decided to stay on his line.
But of course, that's just one thing, he is pretty much excellent at everything else.
But of course, that's just one thing, he is pretty much excellent at everything else.
Not that bothered about him going - a keeper shouldn't be winning POTY awards imo at United.
But DdG has handled this like a shithead.
His last game, his silence since - it's left an impression of an aloof and ignorant player.
But DdG has handled this like a shithead.
His last game, his silence since - it's left an impression of an aloof and ignorant player.
i think what's happening is that real had made up their mind to push for the transfer. i don't think anything in concrete has been agreed between the two clubs. unless a decent fees is on the table, otherwise i want us to play a hard ball over this incidence.
this is not about to retain ddg anymore as we all acknowledge his heart's gone. even if he would have extended his contract he would be definitely gone in other 2 or 3 years time the most, if not much shorter. i can accept players move because of various reasons. but a proper fees commensurate to the ddg's ability under the recent market condition is important.
that's what i expect the club should have done onward:
regardless of the real interest, this is irrelevant to us. if a player who we want to keep wants to leave the club he has to notify the club in person. after we sanction of his departure than we put him to the market to invite any clubs interested in him to make a bid. and we can also quote our desire amount if real makes their bid. if real doesn't want to entertain than i won't mind to let ddg to go free after his contract expires. and for the next season we shall give the game time to whom pledge their futures to this football club. either if this is valdes, or a new incoming goalie, or even lindegaard it doesn't matter. and the player who chose to leave this football club shall be under the bottom of the pecking order.
this is nothing personal to ddg. this is about we need to setup our principality. i don't want the harm of the lewandowski departure done to bvb happens to us. we need to make a statement that manchester united is not a training camp for young latin players to feed other mediterranean clubs in cheap. we cannot be screwed like this. and certainly we need to do this professionally.
remember what lvg once said. even if ddg wants to leave this is not that easy. i really hope we meant it.
this is not about to retain ddg anymore as we all acknowledge his heart's gone. even if he would have extended his contract he would be definitely gone in other 2 or 3 years time the most, if not much shorter. i can accept players move because of various reasons. but a proper fees commensurate to the ddg's ability under the recent market condition is important.
that's what i expect the club should have done onward:
regardless of the real interest, this is irrelevant to us. if a player who we want to keep wants to leave the club he has to notify the club in person. after we sanction of his departure than we put him to the market to invite any clubs interested in him to make a bid. and we can also quote our desire amount if real makes their bid. if real doesn't want to entertain than i won't mind to let ddg to go free after his contract expires. and for the next season we shall give the game time to whom pledge their futures to this football club. either if this is valdes, or a new incoming goalie, or even lindegaard it doesn't matter. and the player who chose to leave this football club shall be under the bottom of the pecking order.
this is nothing personal to ddg. this is about we need to setup our principality. i don't want the harm of the lewandowski departure done to bvb happens to us. we need to make a statement that manchester united is not a training camp for young latin players to feed other mediterranean clubs in cheap. we cannot be screwed like this. and certainly we need to do this professionally.
remember what lvg once said. even if ddg wants to leave this is not that easy. i really hope we meant it.
Finally he is leaving, Good luck to him. I had a feeling from the beginning he would go when others said relax, still time etc.. Real in his one ear, his girlfriend in the other. It was a losing battle from the beginning.
If we bring in another top keeper, i wont look back. Sooner or later he would have left us anyway.
If we bring in another top keeper, i wont look back. Sooner or later he would have left us anyway.
The last couple pages. I can't believe people are calling him out on it. Has he dropped his performances at all? Not one bit. On the contrary, he's been our best player; literally saving us from finishing below 4th place. If he decides to go, I wish him the best with no hard feelings. If he decides to stay and really make something of himself, I'm not sure how much more I can respect him.
True. Just saying the family reason may not be as important as it is made out to be since it is not uncommon for most people his age to do the same thing.
I wonder what Woody will do? I remember him saying how he was going to bring the stars to the Premier League and stop them going the other way yet our POTY for the last two years seems to be going. I wonder how he will counteract it? I think we need to be careful with signing an expensive GK if we go down that route there's not that many good ones around and I could easily see us wasting money on a player that's no better than Valdes. Lloris is a good player depends if he'd be available though.
Spurs said they'd let him leave if they didn't make CL football, didn't they? 25mil release clause or something like that.
Looks like it'll be happening relatively soon. At least it won't drag out all summer. Wish him the best there, as big of cnuts as madrid are. Was hoping for him to stay here for one more year at least, and thought he would, but it's not looking likely. Personally I'd rather let him go on a free next summer then get something like 20m for him which is nothing for United really. Cop on.He as since denied that. If we want him we will have to play hardball with good old levy.
Spurs said no such thing. And there is no release clause..
Not sure i get this. Fair enough if you're not bothered about him leaving, but because he's been our best player? Surely that makes it worse?
I hope we won't be paying more for Lloris than we get for De Gea.
You needn't worry. You won't be spending any money on Lloris.
Levy will never let him leave on a free Glaston.
We don't want him, he's below par. Pretty much like the team he plays for.
Puh, good, because Lloris is so overrated.
Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
I'm surprised that the club isn't taking the risk of letting De Gea go for free. It's time we stop being a charity case, we're one of the biggest football clubs in the world. There's a difference between letting Kagawa go to Dortmund for peanuts and allowing our best player to leave for peanuts. Look at the way Liverpool dealt with Arsenal's Wengeresque bid for Suarez a couple of seasons ago. If Real Madrid won't pay what De Gea is worth, they can feck off. If De Gea wants to go home, fair enough. Sign the contract and get your move.
Besides, I'm convinced that without De Gea, there's no way we'll compete for the league next season. We should at least try to keep hold of him for one season, even if it meant him leaving on a free.
Besides, I'm convinced that without De Gea, there's no way we'll compete for the league next season. We should at least try to keep hold of him for one season, even if it meant him leaving on a free.
I hope Barcelona dominate for the next 10 years. I hope we play Madrid in the Champions League next season and put 6 past him and Benitez. That is all.
agreed, and with suarez in the side currently that says something. Just need to Ronnie to start eating cheeseburgers now and become a fat feck
United's star player shouldn't be the goal keeper. Losing DdG will force the club to readdress that by properly strengthening defense and trying to add more creativity/star power up top - this is better to me.
He started to become almost a 'plan B' to defend 1 goal leads and I didn't like it, at all.
My comments about him coming across badly through this are just my opinion, time will tell if fans remember him fondly - Ronaldo, Beckham - or not.
I can't speak for others,but I could never "hate" Real Madrid given what they did after Munich. Not my second team though, I never did understand that concept.
Can't believe some people are upset with the way he's acted. All he's done is kept his head down and performed. He's acted far better than Ronaldo did. Look at Lukaku's comments today for some perspective.
How can Madrid be anyones second team?
How can Madrid be anyones second team?
£30m would be a good fee if we could get it. Just hope we were well prepared for him leaving and have our replacement lined up...
Hope so, is there any possibility that Madrid can get bust? They are the Spain government team?
fecking this is finally happening, huh? I was confident that he is going to sign a new contract and stay with us for another couple of years.. Shitty of him to leave with only one year remaining on the contract.
Woodie better fecking gets us Benzema or Bale in return; money is no good to us.
Shitty of him to leave with only one year remaining on the contract. Woodie better fecking gets us Benzema or Bale in return; money is no good to us.
Clearly decided to leave a long time ago. I think he's acted quite gracefully and not disrespectful to fans. If he came out and said he was going it would have caused outrage, if he denied he was going then went he would have caused outrage amongst the fans.
Cannot blame him for wanting to go home and be with his girlfriend. Real Madrid are in a different level when it comes to quality in the squad and potential to win trophies, we all know that, so why all the hate for him?
If it was about money he would have taken our contract - we should be happy that we didn't turn him into a mercenary.
My biggest gripe is that it's Real Madrid - they seem to be the most awfully ran club yet still attract the best players in the world. Biggest club in the world.
Cannot blame him for wanting to go home and be with his girlfriend. Real Madrid are in a different level when it comes to quality in the squad and potential to win trophies, we all know that, so why all the hate for him?
If it was about money he would have taken our contract - we should be happy that we didn't turn him into a mercenary.
My biggest gripe is that it's Real Madrid - they seem to be the most awfully ran club yet still attract the best players in the world. Biggest club in the world.
I don't think De Gea's quality made the team change tack to deliberately rely on him. He's an excellent goalkeeper and he bailed us out more than a few times, but that was more a product of his own talent showing through than us sitting back and inviting other sides to test him. All sides concede chances, we just have a keeper who can save ones that would otherwise be a goal against. For how much longer i don't know, but the only way we would not be weakened by him leaving is if we signed Neuer or Courtois. We would be improving the rest of the side regardless of whether he stays or not, his POTY win was just a well deserved acknowledgement of a fine season.
Will give us enough time to scout, or let our young goalkeepers potentially take over from Cech eventually. We are signing these younguns for a reason I guess!
Yeah, this. I don't have a problem with it. He's not said a word. He may want to move to Madrid, but it's all dependent on whether or not United do business. By all rights, the club could refuse and keep him one more year, and I think he'd be professional enough to go along with that and leave in a year.
Neither he nor his representatives have been talking publicly. He's not appearing to force anything. Nothing about him being "angry and confused". The bitterness it seems to be creating seems daft. If he does start gobbing off to the media and tries to force something, then I think we have a reason to think less of him, but right now, he's not done anything wrong. He's repaid the fans with performances on the pitch. He doesn't owe the club anything. Those hoping that he fails come across like lunatics.
It's a nice rosy solution to expect De Gea to re-sign so we can get a top fee for him, but it doesn't always happen like that. If Madrid is where he wants to be, then he's not going to do something that may well make it harder for him to get there. I do believe he has a genuine affection for the club, but if he wants to go home, be with his family and start a family of his own, then how can he be begrudged of that?
Obviously Cech would depend on how well he can continue to perform, but we could potentially get more than a couple of years out of him: VDS is the perfect example of someone who we signed well into their 30s, but was still able to produce for us for a number of years.
I don't think he acted gracefully, he should have come out and said he was off and not let people cling on false hope. Still good luck to him at Madrid.
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