What is disappointing we didn't get a big fee for him!
I recall Suarez signed a 5 year contract 6 months before leaving for Barca.
I recall Suarez signed a 5 year contract 6 months before leaving for Barca.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Ideally no, I'd rather take Madrid to the cleaners (£50m or more) and feck him off - but de Gea and Mendes tried to ensure that couldn't happen by not signing an extension for 18 months.
People are saying 'Real and de Gea hold all the cards', but they don't, at all.
Real have a transfer ban from next season, and de Gea is contracted to be a Man Utd player for another season.
So the club could (and I think should) simply say, "you pay what we want or he can leave on a free next season". It's not our problem if that doesn't suit Real - I'm sure Barca or Atletico would gladly take him on a free!
From the player's point of view, he's been pampered here and treated with such love that I doubt having to stay here for 1 more season is that much of a hassle - as I said before, we're in the CL, we've got a better manager than Real and we're spending money.
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Bit ungrateful for me, United has supported him through the worst times of his career so far, he becomes world class eventually and immediately ship off to Madrid.. Probably being melodramatic but I hope he gets the Casillas treatment.
Being the best in the league. Can't be having that. Once you've reached your potential it's time to hit the bricks apparently.
Just saw the latest updates, and although I knew this was coming, as of right now he can get fecked.
Pretty much echoes my view on the matter. In terms of not damaging our stature, this is the only course of action that makes sense for us at this point. To signal that we're powerless if Madrid comes a knockin' is just not suitable for a club with ambitions of positioning itself as one of the biggest in the world.
Could anyone see Bayern selling Neuer for £20-£30m if Madrid set their sights on him, and he had a year left on his deal? I couldn't. Nor could I see them doing it if Thiago established himself as one of the best three midfielders in the world, and Madrid came in for him in a similar situation, to use a more apt comparison.
It needs to be an extortionate fee, or no deal.
Few good posts here with which I can agree with, esp the ones from @JUPITER . If Madrid comes with some small offer we can tell them to fe.k off and come with some ludicrous offer about which we can think. If not DDG will stary with us one more year, satisfied or not, and then he can go if he wants to.
Also it may sound a bit melodramatic but all this DDG quietness is a bit disrespectful towards us, not to mention if he just pops up at Bernabeu signing a contract.
Also it may sound a bit melodramatic but all this DDG quietness is a bit disrespectful towards us, not to mention if he just pops up at Bernabeu signing a contract.
As Ive said many times, unless they give us a top fee, I'd rather we keep him for another season.
In a year, a lot can happen. We could win trophies, sign players and become a force once more.
Madrid could get a transfer ban, regress further and they may even decide to sign a keeper in the interim. They may see it as a position they just have to strengthen in and sign a good GK who has a very good season and there's no longer a need for DDG.
We need to stand our ground and request a huge fee. Either pay up, or feck off.
In a year, a lot can happen. We could win trophies, sign players and become a force once more.
Madrid could get a transfer ban, regress further and they may even decide to sign a keeper in the interim. They may see it as a position they just have to strengthen in and sign a good GK who has a very good season and there's no longer a need for DDG.
We need to stand our ground and request a huge fee. Either pay up, or feck off.
Rightly or wrongly, I'm disappointed in him.
If we sell him then we must invest heavily in our defence. Fuxk anything else for the time being.
Me too, I kind of expected this kind of behavior too, dont know why.
Let's say that you had a car worth £50k but for one reason or another it would only remain in your ownership for another year (a fact that potential buyers knew). A buyer comes in with a derisory £20k offer, so what do you do? Sell for the reduced price or let the car go for nothing a year from now? This is the position DDG and his agent have put us in.
United may be rich but they aren't stupid.
Real Madrid are going to bend us over and there is feck all we can do about it.
Interesting parallel but as Jupiter said its about the message too. Players are not like cars, by not selling him for whatever offer Madrid puts we send the message we dont bend over for them and we're not their feeder club.
Can't say I agree with your last sentence too.
Correct. Like LVG said, it was DDG's decision whether to go or not and that's all that mattered. At that point, we had little power but to offer him big money to stay, which we did. Seems like he's chosen to leave and now we're stuck being forced to accept virtually whatever they offer.
Don't think LVG wants to field an unhappy keeper in his team and would be better served using whatever we get for him to strengthen elsewhere. Sure we have a lot of money but it's not limitless and we still need to be rational even if it means giving Real and DDG exactly what they want, on their terms. Sucks and he's clearly a dick for not doing enough to get us a bigger fee (assuming it's a low one), but that's just how it works.
Don't think LVG wants to field an unhappy keeper in his team and would be better served using whatever we get for him to strengthen elsewhere. Sure we have a lot of money but it's not limitless and we still need to be rational even if it means giving Real and DDG exactly what they want, on their terms. Sucks and he's clearly a dick for not doing enough to get us a bigger fee (assuming it's a low one), but that's just how it works.
Problem with these Latin players? They don't want to live in rainy cold city's like Manchester, they want to live in hot city's like Madrid. If Manchester was a hot city, I guarantee we would not lose the ronaldo's and the DDG's, our climate is one of the main reasons why we never keep hold of the best players in the world. So I would say Manchester is probably the clubs Achilles heel, because the cold will not keep the players long term, especially these Latin types
They are going to sign him for about a third of his actual worth. That is the very definition of being bent over in my book.
We are not going to lose a £50-£60 million rated player to a free transfer. That would be the very definition of the word stupiditity. We will grudgingly accept their stupidly small offer and use that money to replace him.
The whole situation is so fecking infuriating and I won't wish him one iota of good luck when he does leave. I actually hope he flops massively and ends up regretting the move.
Correct on every point mate. Losing him in this manner is going to leave a very bitter taste behind.
The metaphor only works with a couple of additional clarifications:
1: This is a shit hot car, one you're likely not to replace with an equally cool car. Which begs the question, is the 20k worth more than having the car another year?
2: You're filthy rich and the 20k means very little in the long term. To illustrate, you just recently spent about the same to borrow, for a single year, a car that had been banged up pretty badly and repaired by a somewhat shoddy mechanic.
3: The guy that's trying to buy your car for a knock off price has been going around time talking about how awesome he is and that he can have all the cars he want when he want them.
To conclude, you shouldn't sell the car for 20k.
I don't think there is any message to send with the fee we command. The club has let its most valuable player get his contract down to the last 12 months. It shouldn't happen. Regardless of how much United get for him, United look a bit silly for allowing it to happen.
If we get £25m for him, he becomes the 2nd most expensive goalkeeper of all time. Neuer went for less, he was a year older and he was already one of the best around, like De Gea is now. I'm sure the club would rather take that than let him go for free next summer.
If we get £25m for him, he becomes the 2nd most expensive goalkeeper of all time. Neuer went for less, he was a year older and he was already one of the best around, like De Gea is now. I'm sure the club would rather take that than let him go for free next summer.
Didn't that transfer ban stuff turn out to be nonsense?
We are only helping ourselves despite what some supporters think 25m isn't nothing for the club.
How is being quiet about things disrespectful? I'd much rather that than him mouthing off to the media like Ronaldo did. Either way, I'm sure he'll write us some kind of speech if/when he does sign for Madrid. He wrote one for the Atletico fans when he signed for us.
I don't really care about the fee- an extra ten million isn't going to make much difference for the club.
I don't really care for players who leave the club. DDG can feck off too. Bitterness is the way to go here. Fact of life though in modern football so no need to get too wound up. The circus that are transfer windows works both ways. PSV will be fecked off with losing their best players, only that they have come to terms with realityover the years.
Welcome to the real world.
Poor Atletico fans though...
I don't really care for players who leave the club. DDG can feck off too. Bitterness is the way to go here. Fact of life though in modern football so no need to get too wound up. The circus that are transfer windows works both ways. PSV will be fecked off with losing their best players, only that they have come to terms with realityover the years.
Welcome to the real world.
Poor Atletico fans though...
I'd be impressed with Woodward if he managed to sign de Gea's successor for less than we receive for the llama looking whore.
This is both extremely disappointing yet very obvious at the same time. I mean, we have a player in the final year of his contract who is from Madrid being offered a deal to go to Madrid. All those things together is just the worst combo. We really couldnt have kept on to him. And you cant blame him for wanting to go back home. We sadly hold very few cards in this game. I dont mind losing players of his quality. There's always people to replace them if you are willing to spend the money. But I really like De Gea. He seems like a great guy and a proper United player. He dragged us through so may piss poor performances the last 2 years. He's worked so hard to improve his game over the last 4 years with us. If/when he leaves, I hope he becomes the best in the world. Love the lad.
I think Manchester United should be proud of being Real Madrid's feeder club 
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It'd be more annoying if these players we've sold to 'em had gone on to be massive successes, even Ronaldo's won a relatively low amount considering how good a player he is.I think Manchester United should be proud of being Real Madrid's feeder club
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So am I. He could have signed a contract some time ago and at least get us a hefty transfer fee. I wonder how people would react if he would stay at United now.
And by now, I don't believe that he still doesn't know what to do next and that's why we're still waiting. He's just waiting for the clubs to agree a fee now
If he stayed now he'd be lauded, fact.
I'm sure the club has made everything in its power to keep him but he refused to sign so the club didnt just let him get his contract down to the last 12 months..
Let me rephrase it, it will be disrespectful if he just pops up in Madrid while signing a contract with that mob without saying anything before that.
Also if he goes I wont care about him. Strange thing is he'll be still adored here by some (many?) just like Ronaldo, whose dream was to play for Madrid, is still adored.
Cech is not that much worse than De Gea and he is available this summer.
Falcao wasn't bought because we had cash to waste, he was signed because of his record and the loan deal was simply a wise precaution. For De Gea we should also receive at least 3x more than the £6m we paid for Falcao, if we do get about £20m then that is about 5% of the revenue we have generated over the last four quarters (373m I think), we also have £395m worth of debt.
This is business and the board should do what is best for them, I don't think they should not sell to Real Madrid because of Perez's ego.
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Before you reply I'm not saying the board should sell, I am saying it is a very difficult decision and they should do what is best for them, if they cannot get Cech and Valdes hasn't been convincing aerially in training then it might be best for them to keep him, also they should use their contacts to get information on the likelihood of Real Madrid receiving a transfer ban, it might be worth the gamble of holding onto him since Real Madrid couldn't sign him next season.
It all depends on the situation the board are in, £20m however is still a lot of money to the business and understandably the board will make a decision regarding what is best for the business. That's money that can be invested and multiplied.
I'd agree, he clearly is. Leaves a sour taste really.
feck him. If he leaves then I hope his career goes down the toilet.
Can't blame them really. In your ample free time would you rather sit outside a Madrid cafe in the sun or sit in Greggs in Longsight hoping that the rain stops soon?
Thats not completely accurate. There are plenty of latin players dotted around the league who seem happy with England. I just think we're always going to have players from Europe who dreamed of playing for a club like Real and would like to prove themselves there. In the case of DDG it seems family is behind a move which you cant argue with either.
I get what you're saying but i think players like DDG werent ever looking to leave Spain for too long but players like Silva/Mata/Herrera give you the impression they wanted to make something of themselves aboard for a new challenge. At the end of the day i think its always down to the player and what they want.
I think "Luxury Keeper" was the wrong word. Maybe "Luxury Player". To me De Gea is like a Ferrari for a guy that needs basic food (Really good outfield players that can split open defenses). It's a terrible analogy but you see what I'm saying. De Gea is really, really good but I'd rather sell that Ferrari, get a decent/good keeper and focus on the food (outfield players)
I'm not that fussed about him leaving because it always seemed an inevitability and he has good reasons personally and professionally to move there, but letting him go on the cheap would be a massive kick in the balls. Unless he get a silly fee then keeping him for another season is clearly the best option, so if we choose not go down that route it means we can't fend off interest from Madrid and we concede to player power far too easily. I've accepted the former but the latter would be a new low...and I agree it reflects very poorly on our stature.
My bad...Memories !!
Ha well
Bit shit from him that we've nurtured him into the top 2/3 goalkeepers in the world over the past few seasons and he wants to run off to Real Madrid at the first chance he gets. Still only 24, not like this chance wouldn't come around again. Shit from him too that he basically declined a contract over the past year or so, he could've signed one a year back and then we'd have got a decent fee for him, it's all we deserve really.
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