Yes, and if the British media were basing their stories on Marca or AS reports they would state 'United interested in Ramos according to reports in Spain'. None of them state that. Further, with BBC reporting it too it clearly means an actual brief from United itself.
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Yes, and if the British media were basing their stories on Marca or AS reports they would state 'United interested in Ramos according to reports in Spain'. None of them state that. Further, with BBC reporting it too it clearly means an actual brief from United itself.
He would be an incredible signing. If you could hand pick any defender in the world to sign, Ramos would be one of the first picks. Strong, fast, great in the air, experienced, leader...he has everything.
I just don't see how we're going to pull it off. It seems impossible.
I just don't see how we're going to pull it off. It seems impossible.
I like his mentality. He's a fighter.
That header in the cl final completely swung the game in injury time.
Wont happen, we're chasing the impossible.
Ramos linked with Bayern too: http://www.tz.de/sport/fc-bayern/fc...jerg-transfer-ticker-sommerpause-5045495.html
Obviously just routine contract negotiation.
Obviously just routine contract negotiation.
I think Woodward's using this situation to his benefit. He pushes Madrid into a corner over De Gea and at the same time make Valencia reconsider wanting so much for Otamendi. If it works it's a brilliant move by him.
Wow!
First of all, it was a joke man. Relax.
Secondly, what opinion have I formed from watching him play a game of footy once a week? What "badmouthing" do I need to be better informed about?
I posted a picture of him dressed up as an African king with his face painted black. A photo that exists and was taken away from a football pitch.
Starting to look like that,
If it is only United and getting reported by BBC etc it might indicate we have briefed them and something might be going on. But if there is also links with Bayern and I think some article was thrown around couple of days ago saying something about Barcelona then I think it is indeed Ramos his agent that is creating alot of smoke to get him a better contract at Madrid.
Nothing to see here...
How exactly is he pushing Madrid into a corner about DDG or how exactly will this make Valencia reconsider their stance ?
Just bs
Either we want to sign them and in case we do I don't know why we would brief the media at this stage.
Or we don't want to sign them and their agents are feeding the media with these stories to get them some bigger contracts.
The problem with your theory is the BBC reporting it. They only report it if they've got actual quotes, or if they have confirmed with the club themselves. That's why they're considered the most reliable.
This feels a lot like Di Maria's situation, the press are throwing Ramos under the bus, making him look like money obsessed little player.
You do know even the BBC sometimes publishes non stories
They are just very carefull when they do it. That is why they use empty words like interested.
The only thing the BBC has seen is that there is alot of noise about Ramos and Schweinsteiger last couple of days in both english media and spain. So they use the oldest rule in media, where there is smoke there is a fire. But we don't have any concrete sources about this so we are going to publish an article but we won't say United is signing Ramos and Schweinsteiger, we'll only say they are interested.
And if there really is a fire somewhere than atleast we have been on it in time and we can say see we wrote about their interest and we'll follow it up with more concrete stuff when we have more information.
And if it turns out to be bullshit we'll say yes but we reported they are interested nothing more than that. We never said they were going to sign them or that negotations were ongoing. They were interested and now they aren't anymore this happens all the time.
Either way both outcomes are covered so no risk of losing face but atleast we have published something about it because it is hot and trending and people need to know that BBC is on the news and not behind it !
If you really think BBC only reports things that are 100% double checked you are naive, it simply not true because it isnt realistic. If they only could report stuff that is 100% true they would be the last to report everything and nobody would read them anymore. Goes for every media outlet that bothers reporting transfer news. But they aren't going to publish stories where they claim strong stuff unless it is 100% double checked. But when they say United is interested, honestly they are claiming jack shit, doesn't mean anything !
Does anyone know where this rumour started from? It seems like his agent has never even mentioned us. So that rules out him using us to get a new contract.
Cheers.
As far as I'm concerned it's as clear a press briefing as you'll get other than Woodward sitting in front of a camera. But if you feel otherwise then so be it.
And yes, I don't think we'll sign Ramos but I do think Woodward is playing mind games with the other clubs involved in our deals. But that's just my theory. Guess I'm naive to think so
@NoArroJusBeta aren't you a little muppet slayer?
He's a leader. God knows we could do with one.
Oh I like all the muppetry but I'am carefull reading too much into BBC articles where they have said nothing more than we are interested...
Before you know people will start taking it for truth they will definitley come and a week later both have signed new contracts at their clubs, harts are broken and tears are shed. Let it never be said I didnt warn anybody about it !
I don't believe thats his weight, I weigh 76kg and a much slimmer build than Ramos.
I don't know why some are writing us off here. After last summers transfer frenzy I wouldn't be surprised if we sign Ramos, Schweinsteiger and 2 other top players. I think Ed Woodward isn't fecking about anymore. He has shown us he can sign big name players I don't see why he can't sign them 2.
The BBC aren't just a gossip outlet, though. If they're saying we're interested, as well as Sky's sources, then we are interested.
Whether it's genuine interest from us or just a ploy to get more out of the window as a whole like @Stretch suggested is a completely different matter, but there's no two ways about it - either someone at United/Real or multiple people close to either club has told the BBC that we're interested in Ramos.
Ramos is our Keane, he's not going anywhere.
He will get a new contract at Real, this is not happening, it is so obvious that it is not happening it's surreal to me that Caf posters are even discussing the possibility.
Disgusting speculation. This fool is just using United's name to get a contract just like Ronaldo and Alves have done before. Fvck em all
You are welcome to believe that but I don't buy it.
BBC is not going to say we are close to agreeing a deal for a player if they don't have a good source about that. But if they just say we are interested their only good source might just be the explosion of rumours of the last few days be there truth to them or not. Atleast that is what I believe.
There might be something going on but I won't read too much into it as long as they don't start making some claims about negotiations being ongoing or us having made a bid, you know some concrete stuff that you know they need a source for to back it up. Just saying interested is saying nothing. Like I said we are probably interested in hundreds of players doesn't mean anything until negotiations start up between clubs and players.
Ramos is not a weak defender. And no way does he only way 75kg.
I full heartedly believe we are interested in him, however if we really want to go full throttle on this one or leaking this in order to manipulate Real Madrid I do not know. More importantly is if Ramos even has a hint of interest in coming here is an entirely different question.... Most likely he just wants to strong arm Real in a new and upgraded contract.
I hope Woody leaked this story, that would be great. Just to send a message to Real, that we can also mess with contract negotiations between a club and their player. It also means we are not going to roll over and giving them DDG.
I hope Woody leaked this story, that would be great. Just to send a message to Real, that we can also mess with contract negotiations between a club and their player. It also means we are not going to roll over and giving them DDG.
What about Celtic?
And that's where you're wrong. They don't deal in football rumours. If that was the case they will be posting articles everyday of x club being interested in y player. They've been briefed, and even if that brief came from the player's agent for example, they would've asked United themselves. It's not about what we want to believe, it's about the process the BBC follows before releasing any article. They don't publish articles based on rumours.
@Vato how good would you rate Ramos as a defender compared to his contemporaries?
I just am a bit unsure about him.
I just am a bit unsure about him.
Maybe we started it to piss off Madrid as a tit for tat over De Gea.
If we get him cool, if not just get Beardmendi.
Correct. If the club had briefed the BBC then the BBC would say that, with quotes. No names, no quotes, zilch.
No, not necessarily. It's not a presser nor an interview. It's a brief. It's done all the time. Woodward became famous for it during the season we chased Cesc. He did it last summer too.
Yeah, I've heard broadsheet journalists specifically discuss this. They use the phrase "sources at" when someone has given them a briefing and asked not to be named. This doesn't stop some journos taking the piss and using that same line in completely fictitious stories but the legitimate ones, tend not to misuse the privilege.
I'am quite certain not every article follows the same process.
Also I never claimed they deal in football rumours but they do report on rumours that are generating alot of smoke. BBC isn't going to jump on some twitter account making a claim about us signing a player. But if several twitter journaliast are reporting the same thing, Marca, Daily, Telegraph etc all post things about it for several days. They will have a look and publish something about it. But as I have said with very cautious words, not making any claims and basically saying nothing expect repeating what has already been said but in terms of interested and maybay and supposed instead of Ramos is flying to Manchester this week to finalise a deal...
Anyway that atleast is the way I think almost any respected media outlet works these days. They don't make up stories they are carefull and double check when they make claims but sometimes they also have to post something to get people to visit their website and then they basically say jack shit, use vague words, don't insert quotes, don't name anybody and don't claim any new information that hasn't atleast been reported by x different sources.
Ok sorry, I got a bit carried away there. Ramos is just one of my favourite players and suggesting he's a racist is just way off the mark. I won't contest anyone saying they don't rate him as a defender, that is their right. But Ramos' on and off the pitch behaviour is day and night, so a lot of people will try to find all kind of nonsense to make him look bad because they don't like how he conducts himself on the field. Same with Ronaldo.
I can give you that, those weights are most likely to be inaccurate. But this league does favour bigger CB. Ramos would be a good addition, especially in Europe but i don't fancy him against Lukaku for that instance.
He is as strong as Smalling, he doesn't often get bullied.
As for Lukaku, well, not many can handle him physically, which is why for such a untalented player he can score so many goals.
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