Sergio Ramos | Signs new 5 year contract

[Oo0AahCantona]

He would instantly be the best cb in the league should he join, You cant count on terry to have another season like he did last year and kompany has been at the dogs for a while.

 

[Summit]

He would instantly be the best cb in the league should he join, You cant count on terry to have another season like he did last year and kompany has been at the dogs for a while.

It's impossible to suggest this though. A lot would have said the said the same before Di Maria arrived; you just don't know how they will turn out.

 

[Enigma_87]

In any case its not a lot 50% makes it sound like it is, but in real terms he will make 1 more foul every 2 games, which isn't exactly a lot.
Playing in the EPL too, some of those won't even be called as fouls

Playing for Madrid, Valencia and United is different.

A better picture is comparing Ramos to Pepe as they both are very similar type of defenders(Ramos better on the ball and attacking wise and Pepe defensivewise obviously but IMO with comparable styles).

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...llow_cards/tackles_lost/fouls_committed#total

For the same amount of time on the pitch Ramos has made more than double fouls than Pepe, getting more cards and losing more tackles.

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...llow_cards/tackles_lost/fouls_committed#total

that was the year before.

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...llow_cards/tackles_lost/fouls_committed#total
and 2 years ago.

 

[Woodenlung]

Still think Ramos will come out of this with a nice new contract and we'll be scrambling around for a replacement.

 

[hebegebe]

The Fecker wants a new deal.

 

[Cassidy]

Still think Ramos will come out of this with a nice new contract and we'll be scrambling around for a replacement.

We have Otamendi more or less sorted I'd say, no worries there

 

[Crackers]

We have Otamendi more or less sorted I'd say, no worries there

What makes you think that?

 

[Alex Styles]

Even the fact that there could be some truth to these stories is infuriating if you ask me. It feels like we're getting the scraps that madrid, barca or bayern don't want. Stories about De Gea leaving for 13 mil...absurd! Instead of trying to squeeze out bale ronaldo or benzema, now we're after ramos of all people? He's overrated for a start and gets sent off too much. Doesn't even look in the slightest like a LVG type player.

 

[Drainy]

An attempt to shaft Real Madrid back for them bending us over for de Gea? making them give Ramos a pay rise they don't want to do be 'creating a market'

More likely he's on the list of targets and we are getting suckered in though

 

[izec]

I dont know why people are discussing this. We are fecked no matter how it turns out. Big Dave fecked us over. We will lose him for nothing next year or for peanuts this year. Some really expect him to go for 50m, thats not the case even if thats his actual valuation. Thats how some of you act on here. Ramos will feck us over too once he gets a better contract offer. Next year, Ramos and De Gea will be both at Real.

Sell De Gea for 20-30m and sign Otamendi for 35m.

 

[Cassidy]

What makes you think that?

I'm confident we've agreed personal terms with him (which is why he has come and said he wants out, and his agent has too)
All that remains is to pay the buyout if we need to, I'm not too worried about this transfer tbh

 

[Sam]

Even the fact that there could be some truth to these stories is infuriating if you ask me. It feels like we're getting the scraps that madrid, barca or bayern don't want. Stories about De Gea leaving for 13 mil...absurd! Instead of trying to squeeze out bale ronaldo or benzema, now we're after ramos of all people? He's overrated for a start and gets sent off too much. Doesn't even look in the slightest like a LVG type player.

He's as close to an LVG type defender as you'll get.

 

[Mali_Zeus]

Even the fact that there could be some truth to these stories is infuriating if you ask me. It feels like we're getting the scraps that madrid, barca or bayern don't want. Stories about De Gea leaving for 13 mil...absurd! Instead of trying to squeeze out bale ronaldo or benzema, now we're after ramos of all people? He's overrated for a start and gets sent off too much. Doesn't even look in the slightest like a LVG type player.

Actually he doesnt get sent off that much.
Also as if Madrid would give us Ronaldo for DDG.

 

[Loon]

Signing a new deal in 10...9...8....7.....6...

 

[Rezyuz]

Saf last purchases for us have been horrible, almost every transfer decision he made has left us a step behind on everyone else atm.

Pogba not being here is his fault alone ! Nobody on here can understand or justify his decision to play Park and Rafael in the midfield instead of giving him his chances he clearly deserved.

He didn't want to pay the few extra millions to secure Hazard because of moral prciniples about agent fees. Well that turned out real good as Hazard is now worth more than double the fee Chelsea ended up paying for him.

He was not interested in Modric as replacement for Scholes or Bale for Giggs until it was royally too late and Real Madrid snapped up altough he has seen them more and longer than most managers. Fans we're saying he should have signed up those two for years and years or atleast invest in a midfielder like Scholes but he never did it !

Nani, Anderson, Bébé, Obertan, Hernandez, Valencia, Kagawa, Young, Smalling, Jones, Rafael, Fabio, Powell, owen, Zaha all overpaid signings he made for us that haven't worked out because they lack quality and simply aren't good enough (many of them also on ridiculously high wages). Smalling and Young have had their first decent season for a long while but the rest been crap with the capital letter C.

RVP worked out for 1 season. Than he has been no more than a hinderance for the team, a gruesomly overpaid and constantly injurred hinderance that we're struggling to sell now because nobody is interested in him due to the high wages. Berbatov been a similarly miserable buy from the club, so darn expensive and didn't work out at all.

Not to forget Cleverly and how long he kept giving that boy chances he never deserved in the first place.

I don't know why but in all decisions about which we players we should go for, how much we should spend on them, which players we shouldn't go for because they are too expensive, how much salary we should give them, who we should give chances in the team and who not, you just can't but say there is a severe lack of judgement and eye for quality. For the last part it is not only Fergies responsability and fault but also our scouting altough in the end Fergie has set up our scouting aswell and he managed them just like anyother sportive part of the club.

He is an amazing coach and probably one of the best if not the best people manager the game will ever see and he certainly earned his glory as a guy with an eye for talent when he brought Ronaldo to the club or Ruud, VDS, Ferdinand, Evra, Vidic, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs and Beckham from the youth to name just a few but those last 5 seasons, in fact starting the season after we sold Ronaldo have not been good in terms of transfers or general player based decisions.

Obviously he was still so good he won things but I think it was more despite the lack of quality player rather then because of the quality of his players.

The greatest legend this club could ever hope for and everybody owes him eternal gratitude and nothing but the utmost respect if you are a United fan yet despite all that we must not be blind for the shortcoming in the last 5 seasons in terms of player based decisions and the deterimental effect it has had over the last 2 seasons.

Only successtory from those last 5 seasons is DDG and now we have to see even that go to dust because the club didnt bother signing him up on a long term deal sooner.

Great post +1

 

[Keeps It tidy]

Actually he doesnt get sent off that much.
Also as if Madrid would give us Ronaldo for DDG.

He has been sent off 19 times since joining Real.

 

[Mali_Zeus]

He has been sent off 19 times since joining Real.

That's one or 2 reds per season, nothing much.

 

[LilRicky]

Saf last purchases for us have been horrible, almost every transfer decision he made has left us a step behind on everyone else atm.

Pogba not being here is his fault alone ! Nobody on here can understand or justify his decision to play Park and Rafael in the midfield instead of giving him his chances he clearly deserved.

He didn't want to pay the few extra millions to secure Hazard because of moral prciniples about agent fees. Well that turned out real good as Hazard is now worth more than double the fee Chelsea ended up paying for him.

He was not interested in Modric as replacement for Scholes or Bale for Giggs until it was royally too late and Real Madrid snapped up altough he has seen them more and longer than most managers. Fans we're saying he should have signed up those two for years and years or atleast invest in a midfielder like Scholes but he never did it !

Nani, Anderson, Bébé, Obertan, Hernandez, Valencia, Kagawa, Young, Smalling, Jones, Rafael, Fabio, Powell, owen, Zaha all overpaid signings he made for us that haven't worked out because they lack quality and simply aren't good enough (many of them also on ridiculously high wages). Smalling and Young have had their first decent season for a long while but the rest been crap with the capital letter C.

RVP worked out for 1 season. Than he has been no more than a hinderance for the team, a gruesomly overpaid and constantly injurred hinderance that we're struggling to sell now because nobody is interested in him due to the high wages. Berbatov been a similarly miserable buy from the club, so darn expensive and didn't work out at all.

Not to forget Cleverly and how long he kept giving that boy chances he never deserved in the first place.

I don't know why but in all decisions about which we players we should go for, how much we should spend on them, which players we shouldn't go for because they are too expensive, how much salary we should give them, who we should give chances in the team and who not, you just can't but say there is a severe lack of judgement and eye for quality. For the last part it is not only Fergies responsability and fault but also our scouting altough in the end Fergie has set up our scouting aswell and he managed them just like anyother sportive part of the club.

He is an amazing coach and probably one of the best if not the best people manager the game will ever see and he certainly earned his glory as a guy with an eye for talent when he brought Ronaldo to the club or Ruud, VDS, Ferdinand, Evra, Vidic, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs and Beckham from the youth to name just a few but those last 5 seasons, in fact starting the season after we sold Ronaldo have not been good in terms of transfers or general player based decisions.

Obviously he was still so good he won things but I think it was more despite the lack of quality player rather then because of the quality of his players.

The greatest legend this club could ever hope for and everybody owes him eternal gratitude and nothing but the utmost respect if you are a United fan yet despite all that we must not be blind for the shortcoming in the last 5 seasons in terms of player based decisions and the deterimental effect it has had over the last 2 seasons.

Only successtory from those last 5 seasons is DDG and now we have to see even that go to dust because the club didnt bother signing him up on a long term deal sooner.

5* Post!

 

[acnumber9]

Saf last purchases for us have been horrible, almost every transfer decision he made has left us a step behind on everyone else atm.

Pogba not being here is his fault alone ! Nobody on here can understand or justify his decision to play Park and Rafael in the midfield instead of giving him his chances he clearly deserved.

He didn't want to pay the few extra millions to secure Hazard because of moral prciniples about agent fees. Well that turned out real good as Hazard is now worth more than double the fee Chelsea ended up paying for him.

He was not interested in Modric as replacement for Scholes or Bale for Giggs until it was royally too late and Real Madrid snapped up altough he has seen them more and longer than most managers. Fans we're saying he should have signed up those two for years and years or atleast invest in a midfielder like Scholes but he never did it !

Nani, Anderson, Bébé, Obertan, Hernandez, Valencia, Kagawa, Young, Smalling, Jones, Rafael, Fabio, Powell, owen, Zaha all overpaid signings he made for us that haven't worked out because they lack quality and simply aren't good enough (many of them also on ridiculously high wages). Smalling and Young have had their first decent season for a long while but the rest been crap with the capital letter C.

RVP worked out for 1 season. Than he has been no more than a hinderance for the team, a gruesomly overpaid and constantly injurred hinderance that we're struggling to sell now because nobody is interested in him due to the high wages. Berbatov been a similarly miserable buy from the club, so darn expensive and didn't work out at all.

Not to forget Cleverly and how long he kept giving that boy chances he never deserved in the first place.

I don't know why but in all decisions about which we players we should go for, how much we should spend on them, which players we shouldn't go for because they are too expensive, how much salary we should give them, who we should give chances in the team and who not, you just can't but say there is a severe lack of judgement and eye for quality. For the last part it is not only Fergies responsability and fault but also our scouting altough in the end Fergie has set up our scouting aswell and he managed them just like anyother sportive part of the club.

He is an amazing coach and probably one of the best if not the best people manager the game will ever see and he certainly earned his glory as a guy with an eye for talent when he brought Ronaldo to the club or Ruud, VDS, Ferdinand, Evra, Vidic, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs and Beckham from the youth to name just a few but those last 5 seasons, in fact starting the season after we sold Ronaldo have not been good in terms of transfers or general player based decisions.

Obviously he was still so good he won things but I think it was more despite the lack of quality player rather then because of the quality of his players.

The greatest legend this club could ever hope for and everybody owes him eternal gratitude and nothing but the utmost respect if you are a United fan yet despite all that we must not be blind for the shortcoming in the last 5 seasons in terms of player based decisions and the deterimental effect it has had over the last 2 seasons.

Only successtory from those last 5 seasons is DDG and now we have to see even that go to dust because the club didnt bother signing him up on a long term deal sooner.

Some of that is complete horse shit. How do you know he wasn't interested in Modric? Being interested and being able to make it happen are different things unfortunately. And if he wasn't interested in Bale then trying to sign him from Southampton was a weird move.

 

[Getsme]

You dont NEED squad players. Thats a bs excuse when you cannot sign better because of no funds/proper scouting.

The only reason Evans hold 14 clean sheets in 2008/2009 is because we had the second best team on the planet surrounding him.

One of the most ridiculous things I've read on here.

 

[Hojoon]

http://www.marca.com/en/2015/06/23/...9.html?cid=SMBOSO34503&s_kw=twitterCM=Twitter

Marca not too confident of Ramos signing a new contract. I don't know what's funnier though: the Real Madrid higher ups thinking that Ramos is up there with Cristiano and Bale in footballing terms, or Marca casually mentioning that a player's image/revenue is almost as important as how good he is as a player as if it's no big deal.

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

Saf last purchases for us have been horrible, almost every transfer decision he made has left us a step behind on everyone else atm.

Pogba not being here is his fault alone ! Nobody on here can understand or justify his decision to play Park and Rafael in the midfield instead of giving him his chances he clearly deserved.

He didn't want to pay the few extra millions to secure Hazard because of moral prciniples about agent fees. Well that turned out real good as Hazard is now worth more than double the fee Chelsea ended up paying for him.

He was not interested in Modric as replacement for Scholes or Bale for Giggs until it was royally too late and Real Madrid snapped up altough he has seen them more and longer than most managers. Fans we're saying he should have signed up those two for years and years or atleast invest in a midfielder like Scholes but he never did it !

Nani, Anderson, Bébé, Obertan, Hernandez, Valencia, Kagawa, Young, Smalling, Jones, Rafael, Fabio, Powell, owen, Zaha all overpaid signings he made for us that haven't worked out because they lack quality and simply aren't good enough (many of them also on ridiculously high wages). Smalling and Young have had their first decent season for a long while but the rest been crap with the capital letter C.

RVP worked out for 1 season. Than he has been no more than a hinderance for the team, a gruesomly overpaid and constantly injurred hinderance that we're struggling to sell now because nobody is interested in him due to the high wages. Berbatov been a similarly miserable buy from the club, so darn expensive and didn't work out at all.

Not to forget Cleverly and how long he kept giving that boy chances he never deserved in the first place.

I don't know why but in all decisions about which we players we should go for, how much we should spend on them, which players we shouldn't go for because they are too expensive, how much salary we should give them, who we should give chances in the team and who not, you just can't but say there is a severe lack of judgement and eye for quality. For the last part it is not only Fergies responsability and fault but also our scouting altough in the end Fergie has set up our scouting aswell and he managed them just like anyother sportive part of the club.



Obviously he was still so good he won things but I think it was more despite the lack of quality player rather then because of the quality of his players.

The greatest legend this club could ever hope for and everybody owes him eternal gratitude and nothing but the utmost respect if you are a United fan yet despite all that we must not be blind for the shortcoming in the last 5 seasons in terms of player based decisions and the deterimental effect it has had over the last 2 seasons.

Only successtory from those last 5 seasons is DDG and now we have to see even that go to dust because the club didnt bother signing him up on a long term deal sooner.

Hindsight really is an amazing thing , there is so much wrong with the post that it's hard to really write a proper reply.

 

[Getsme]

Hindsight really is an amazing thing , there is so much wrong with the post that it's hard to really write a proper reply.

Indeed, some really weird posts in here

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Especially coming from someone who claims to enjoy transfer windows as much as the actual season.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

Some of that is complete horse shit. How do you know he wasn't interested in Modric? Being interested and being able to make it happen are different things unfortunately. And if he wasn't interested in Bale then trying to sign him from Southampton was a weird move.

Look at what happened when Chelsea went after Modric. Tottenham would probably have no interest in selling us Modric. And he listed Rafael, Fabio and Owen as "overpaid" signings when with Rafael and Fabio I think they only cost a training fee and Owen did not cost anything.

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

Look at what happened when Chelsea went after Modric. Tottenham would probably have no interest in selling us Modric. And he listed Rafael, Fabio and Owen as "overpaid" signings when with Rafael and Fabio I think they only cost a training fee and Owen did not cost anything.

Plus Chicharito

 

[Enigma_87]

Hindsight really is an amazing thing , there is so much wrong with the post that it's hard to really write a proper reply.

Pogba leaving all due to Fergie and Hazard all but wrapped up(singe only the agent fees were the problem) almost had me.

But where I stopped reading was at Owen being overpaid signing, who was signed on free in a pay as you play deal..

 

[kafta]

And blaming fergie for pogba leaving with the reasoning being he didn't pick him for one certain game is utter horsecrap.

 

[acnumber9]

Look at what happened when Chelsea went after Modric. Tottenham would probably have no interest in selling us Modric. And he listed Rafael, Fabio and Owen as "overpaid" signings when with Rafael and Fabio I think they only cost a training fee and Owen did not cost anything.

Or he complains we waited too long to try and sign players and complains when we take a chance on players and they don't work out.

 

[Loon]

Seem to be a lot of folk who know EXACTLY what's going on behind-the-scenes at United. I only go with my hunches and freely admit I know sod all about the transfer dealings.

I still don't think he's coming, but I hope we don't get mugged into overpaying.

 

[Bojan11]

Honestly he's one of the worst posters on here. Always crying about something. Damn Fergie for giving us 3 title in those horrid last 5 years. Damn Fergie for spending more than £200m since he left, oh wait. We overpaid and spent badly since Fergie left. We haven't identified the right players at times too for us and that's our problem.

 

[Rado_N]

Hindsight really is an amazing thing , there is so much wrong with the post that it's hard to really write a proper reply.

I didn't get past the Pogba bit.

 

[Getsme]

Seem to be a lot of folk who know EXACTLY what's going on behind-the-scenes at United. I only go with my hunches and freely admit I know sod all about the transfer dealings.

I still don't think he's coming, but I hope we don't get mugged into overpaying.

I honestly couldn't care less if we overpay, we always do so it would be nothing new.
However he would instantly improve our team, we need players like him especially if De Gea leaves.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Come on man it was so obvious during the 2012 season how bad our team was and how much it relied on RvP's unbelievable scoring capabilities.

90% of the matches were just plain horrible with RvP scoring an impossible goal in the end.

Come on man it was so obvious during the 2012 season how bad our team was and how much it relied on RvP's unbelievable scoring capabilities.

90% of the matches were just plain horrible with RvP scoring an impossible goal in the end.

I disagree. We'd never have won the league that year if we were that poor. Moyes also made every player except DDG and Rooney look four times worse than they ever did under SAF.

 

[Adam-Utd]

I disagree. We'd never have won the league that year if we were that poor. Moyes also made every player except DDG and Rooney look four times worse than they ever did under SAF.

We were shite. Luckily city, arsenal and Chelsea were even shitier.

 

[Loon]

I honestly couldn't care less if we overpay, we always do so it would be nothing new.
However he would instantly improve our team, we need players like him especially if De Gea leaves.

Fair point.

 

[Mister Ed]

Hindsight really is an amazing thing , there is so much wrong with the post that it's hard to really write a proper reply.

It is hard to write a proper reply to it because it is all true but you just don't like it and finding some clever words and excuses to salve it all up is too much trouble.

 

[Enigma_87]

Honestly he's one of the worst posters on here. Always crying about something. Damn Fergie for giving us 3 title in those horrid last 5 years. Damn Fergie for spending more than £200m since he left, oh wait. We overpaid and spent badly since Fergie left. We haven't identified the right players at times too for us and that's our problem.

Winners should not be judged.

In the last 5 years Fergie won 3 titles(losing the other two by grand total of 1 point), 2 CL finals, 2 League cups. Whatever shit signings he has made he made it work. Since he left we spent north of 200m pounds.

Whoever still blames Fergie for things that happened after he left is off his mind.

We were shite. Luckily city, arsenal and Chelsea were even shitier.

I don't believe that. A bit scouse talk. We hit 89 points that year only eclipsed by us again in 09 in near past. We were clearly the best team that year and deservedly won.

 

[Cassidy]

It is hard to write a proper reply to it because it is all true but you just don't like it and finding some clever words and excuses to salve it all up is too much trouble.

You actually make a fair point in that post, but parts of it are untrue.
For instance we were interested in Modric and we tried to sign Bale even before he even went to Spurs.
However for the most part you are correct with regards to our transfer dealings in general during the later part of Fergies reign.

 

[golden_blunder]

I love the revisionism about pogba. He wasn't playing great for the reserves but Ferguson should have chucked him into a must win match. Right

Everyone is a scouting genius with hindsight