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Sergio Ramos | Signs new 5 year contract
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I dont care about how old he is, or the price.
I just dont think he is very good.
I just dont think he is very good.
I think he spoke about goal scoring being a bonus.
I apologize, should have realized it had nothing to do with Ramos; the names "Smalling" and "Jones" just bring out the worse in your posts.
I'm speaking about his goalscoring exploits. I feel it's improtant for defenders to be good on the ball.
There is one reason. His Dad has a soft spot for United. He's United supporter and so Ramos grew up with red-tinted perspective of the club. He spoke about how he and his Dad consider United and Madrid to be similar clubs in that they both posses the ambition to be at the absolute top. Something he admires. So it's not that there's absolutely no motivation for him to come here.
I agree with most here that he has a long list of negatives, as well as posities.
But of all the defenders we've been linked with, there isn't one we can't say that about, and there isn't one that's better. Signing him or Otamendi would be great as we can't go into the new season without a new CB.
But of all the defenders we've been linked with, there isn't one we can't say that about, and there isn't one that's better. Signing him or Otamendi would be great as we can't go into the new season without a new CB.
there's got to be a better younger CB out there who is available(ish)
hard to think of many in the PL...
Ramos is 7/10 defender - solid but vunerable and rash at times
if we end up giving them De Gea, even with a year left, plus anything more than £15 we are mugs
hard to think of many in the PL...
Ramos is 7/10 defender - solid but vunerable and rash at times
if we end up giving them De Gea, even with a year left, plus anything more than £15 we are mugs
Not really, and thats the trouble in with this forum. Just because someone asks for quality competition that doesn't mean he hates the 'first teamers'. Actually competition is healthy even for them as it will keep them on their toes and will also provide them with the sheltered environment they need for them to grow. I dont think that having Jones and Smalling as undisputed first teamers is good for them, they certainly not ready for that role.
I want quality competition for Jones/Smalling as much as I dont want them sold.
I would trust the Real fans who have watched him for the last ten years more than anyone else on here that he's a class act
Ramos is a great defender. He has a few mistakes in him throughout thr course of a season but then so does every defender on the planet. 3 red cards in a row v Liverpool for our very own Vidic and Ferdinand was well known for lapses in concentration. People need to stop pretending they never made a mistake. The revisionism on here is hilarious at times.
He's a massive upgrade on what we've got, has won literally everything there is to win. I can't believe people are against the idea.
Personally I don't even think it will happen, but I'm not against it at all.
He's a massive upgrade on what we've got, has won literally everything there is to win. I can't believe people are against the idea.
Personally I don't even think it will happen, but I'm not against it at all.
Indeed, gray areas not allowed
The problem is that some people think that we owe the British national sides something ie by playing their players etc. I fail to understand that especially considering the despicable way some of our players had been treated to the years. I believe that we should buy/play players out of merit and not because of their nationality. I also think that competition is healthy as it makes the team less reliant on that player and will spur the players to give their 100 per cent week in week out
ramos, otamedi, smalling, shaw.....
I'm actually warming up to the idea of signing ramos. The one thing he has over otamedi is big game experience.
He would a good signing.
I'm actually warming up to the idea of signing ramos. The one thing he has over otamedi is big game experience.
He would a good signing.
I would've used something weaker than "Oh, please God, no!", but that's closest to my opinion from the poll options.
I am just mocking the ridiculous things being said about Smalling and Jones throughout the years and which reveals my irritation of having people overrating or justifying players to ridiculous levels. In my opinion, this attitude is the main reason why England cant win a damn thing. With all their white Peles, the new Duncan Edwards and the 40m Hurrikanes they cant get past the Italian national sides even though they had never been as weak in their history as they are now. Let the players football do the talking and not the hype surrounding them.
I believe that Rio (whom I rate the best defender of his generation) had recently come out with something similar to what I said. Its ridiculous that players like Sterling and Kane are rated 40m he said. Guess what he's right
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Does Ramos speak English?
For those putting Ramos in a united line up at RB need to get real. This guy, if he was to come to OT, will not play there.
For those putting Ramos in a united line up at RB need to get real. This guy, if he was to come to OT, will not play there.
Agree. No way he comes here and plays RB.
People have a tendency of actually over-exaggerating the so-called hype surrounding English players and the national team. For the large part it isn't there. We have a critical press that isn't fearful of telling it like it is.
We also love a good narrative. Harry Kane's rise is a good story to report and write about, hence it was covered to the extent it was. Don't conflict that with the belief that he is infact worth £40 million, because the reality is that few people aside from the Tottenham board actually hold that belief.
We also love a good narrative. Harry Kane's rise is a good story to report and write about, hence it was covered to the extent it was. Don't conflict that with the belief that he is infact worth £40 million, because the reality is that few people aside from the Tottenham board actually hold that belief.
Exactly. He will be a key player for United, but not as a right back. He will be in the central defence. If we sign him, he will be the leader we have missed in the defence. Great player.
Or maybe being looked at due to his versatility, RB + CB and more importantly DM, maybe Ramos is the alternative to Schweini and Schneidi, hence why neither of those deals have progressed, sign one player to cover 3 positions instead of 2-3 players even if he costs £40m it is a cheaper alternative!
We are going to play him on those 3 positions at the same time ?
We need a CB
We need a RB
We need a DM
Signing one player that could play on all those positions doesn't solve all those 3 problems
Beside Ramos has been absolute cack in the midfield.
Not really. Anyone who sees Jones-Smalling as good enough to be regular and undisputed first teamers are overrating them.
In any seriousness if Real Madrid play hardball and this ends up with us not signing Ramos we shouldn't let them have DDG.
There may not be a swap deal but if they are lenient in the Ramos deal we should be lenient in the DDG deal, if they are impossible in the Ramos deal we should be impossible in the DDG deal, even if it ends up with us losing him next for year for nothing.
There may not be a swap deal but if they are lenient in the Ramos deal we should be lenient in the DDG deal, if they are impossible in the Ramos deal we should be impossible in the DDG deal, even if it ends up with us losing him next for year for nothing.
Agreed.
Also, if we sign Ramos it will have to be one of the most unexpected signings by any club ever, simply because no one thought he could possibly be bought.
What's interesting is that the bookies aren't having it -- he's still 1/4 to stay in Madrid, 7/2 to come here.
What's interesting is that the bookies aren't having it -- he's still 1/4 to stay in Madrid, 7/2 to come here.
Lol yea. They could have won all those games with 10 v 11, right!
If Ramos is a 7/10 what is smalling?
I dont think Arbeloa played as many of the games as Ramos. But lets get this right, Arbeloa isnt good as compared to who? Like Rooney isnt that good ahen say compared to Messi. But hes still good right? Its all subjective. If you win those trophies, you dont do it by being average. You need to be consistantly good over a long period to win that haul. Anyone that thinks differently knows ....
Most likely
Imo
Ramos:
Defending without the ball: 7.5/10
Skills with the ball: 8.5/10
Attitude on the pitch: 9/10
Smalling:
Defending without the ball: 8.5/10
Skills with the ball: 2/10
Attitude on the pitch: 7/10
Bosingwa was utter shite and won 2 CLs.
Just woke up, hungover as feck, and this is the first thing I tried to read. Cheers. And. Cheers. Thanks.
What a train wreck of a post
Just a wall of text and after reading it 3 times I'am still not sure what you are going on about. In the middle of the post are that actual sentences or just words that poped in your head and you wrote down without bodering about context or structering them into sentences ?
He's specialized in those kind of posts.
He's specialized in those kind of posts.
I still don't understand what he is trying to say after 4 attempts. If you try to get into it, it feels like a rollercoaster through his head spinning out of control, I literally get dizzy even trying to read it !
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