Question Time & This Week

Burnham is laying it on far too thick with this transparency argument.

A Guardian columnist in favour of leaving the EU; you don't hear those voices on Politics Weekly.
 
The Andy Burnham InterCity, all stations to Platitude Central.

Amber Rudd got off a little easy during the EU segment. No doubt Suzanne vans would have liked to interrogate her about Cameron's negotiating skills.
 
Neither the panel, nor the oh-so-knowledgeable audience have any answers for the Mediterranean migrant crisis.

The guy from the Guardian has just completely dodged the question put to him by Evans there.

I agree with Burnham about establishing safe havens closer to the point of origin (easier said than done mind).
 
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Neither the panel, nor the oh-so-knowledgeable audience have any answers for the Mediterranean migrant crisis.

The guy from the Guardian has just completely dodged the question put to him by Evans there.

I agree with Burnham about establishing safe havens closer to the point of origin (easier said than done mind).
I READ A SURVEY!!!!

Burnham looked caked in make-up.
 
I READ A SURVEY!!!!

Burnham looked caked in make-up.

Mr Mosquito Nets you mean? :smirk: Why did he expect the Secretary of State for Energy to have intimate knowledge of his unnamed study? Corruption is a problem encountered by most if not all countries i imagine.

The top half of Burnham's face could very easily have melted off by the end of the programme.
 
Mr Mosquito Nets you mean? :smirk: Why did he expect the Secretary of State for Energy to have intimate knowledge of his unnamed study? Corruption is a problem encountered by most if not all countries i imagine.

The top half of Burnham's face could very easily have melted off by the end of the programme.
:lol:Yep him. Gosh, he was so self-satisfied by his puerile little cameo. It's a shame that QT has descended into a pantomime. I actually picked up a copy of the Sun today and they were gunning for the foreign aid budget. Yeah OK, there were a couple of things that sounded a bit spurious, but plenty sounded pretty sensible too. Just feels that it in this QT/twitter outrage times, there really is no middle ground any more.
 
:lol:Yep him. Gosh, he was so self-satisfied by his puerile little cameo. It's a shame that QT has descended into a pantomime. I actually picked up a copy of the Sun today and they were gunning for the foreign aid budget. Yeah OK, there were a couple of things that sounded a bit spurious, but plenty sounded pretty sensible too. Just feels that it in this QT/twitter outrage times, there really is no middle ground any more.
The audience tends to applaud totally contradictory things as well (same members), aggravates me no end.

Aside from his immaculate eyebrows, were any Labour/Tory flip flopping voters impressed by Burnham at all?
 
The audience tends to applaud totally contradictory things as well (same members), aggravates me no end.

Aside from his immaculate eyebrows, were any Labour/Tory flip flopping voters impressed by Burnham at all?
He was even more centre left, if you will, than I imagined. I'm looking at rereading some old books on my hols in a couple of weeks, Glen Runciter. Genuinely can't remember if I read it. Wasn't so sure about the world Jones made.
 
He was even more centre left, if you will, than I imagined. I'm looking at rereading some old books on my hols in a couple of weeks, Glen Runciter. Genuinely can't remember if I read it. Wasn't so sure about the world Jones made.
He's running on the premise that Ed lost because he looks weird and doesn't have well-groomed yet forlorn eyebrows. Best of luck with that Andy.

And it's always worth a re-read! Win win.
 
Jeremy (rhyming slang) Hunt made me cringe wearing his NHS badge and came unstuck when an audience member tackled him on the armed forces. Corbyn came across quite well as did Douglas. BBC must have ran around desperate to find a Muslim for the panel and ended up with Shappi.Out of her depth and how it showed ..A couple of lame jokes and that was your lot. They really should stop having these so called comedians as guests.
 
Admittedly i have only just tuned in, but Chukka sounds more polished in these few minutes on QT than eitehr Burnham or Corbyn.
 
Admittedly i have only just tuned in, but Chukka sounds more polished in these few minutes on QT than eitehr Burnham or Corbyn.

He sounds quite polished, although he usually does to be fair. I think that's one of his major strengths, and probably why he's holding out on being potential Labour leader until he sees an election where he's more likely to win.
 
How many on here agree with that point about university attendance, are the numbers too high and the value of the degrees less than used to be the case?
 
He sounds quite polished, although he usually does to be fair. I think that's one of his major strengths, and probably why he's holding out on being potential Labour leader until he sees an election where he's more likely to win.
I'm sure he was advised about this. The next general election isn't looking likely for Labour right now but Umunna leading the campaign after may be the right sort of timing.
 
I'm sure he was advised about this. The next general election isn't looking likely for Labour right now but Umunna leading the campaign after may be the right sort of timing.

True. I think he's very polished and comes across well, but then I'm not sure what his views exactly are; I'd probably need to look into it a bit more, although I've heard he's a bit to the right. He certainly seems like the sort of candidate who would have a lot of appeal for the standard floating voter though.
 
How many on here agree with that point about university attendance, are the numbers too high and the value of the degrees less than used to be the case?
Far as I remember the last hike didn't really impact attendance, and that was far larger. I don't think education should be so expensive though, it benefits all of us to have a highly educated society.
 
If the woman from UKIP interrupts one more time, i'm going to use my red button privileges to drop her into the gunge tank under the stage.
 
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She's appalling. She advocates a complete overhaul of the university system and the numbers who should attend because she happens to have seen a couple of articles about David Beckham studies or something. She may have a point about university courses, but she's not got a substantiated argument at all. She was also schooled about nursing by someone who actually takes the course.
 
She's appalling. She advocates a complete overhaul of the university system and the numbers who should attend because she happens to have seen a couple of articles about David Beckham studies or something. She may have a point about university courses, but she's not got a substantiated argument at all. She was also schooled about nursing by someone who actually takes the course.

I suspect that there is a case to be made as regards the courses which people study, however part of the fault for this lies with society, for the emphasis it has placed upon acquisition of non-specific degrees. No longer are those years in HE seen as a pathway to an identified objective, or at least not to the extent which they ought to be.

The dialogue between her and the nurse was just terribly awkward lol; she should have recognised the limitations of her position at an early stage.
 
The UKIPper was just your general loudmouth, nothing substantial to say, just wasted oxygen.
Admittedly i have only just tuned in, but Chukka sounds more polished in these few minutes on QT than eitehr Burnham or Corbyn.
He'd likely walk this leadership election with the membership, but Soubry was actually quite right when she said the PLP is now more to the left than it has been in decades, so he may have actually struggled to get the required nominations given that Kendall was very effective at getting early backers (another reason the shite nomination rules need to be changed, that shouldn't dictate who the membership can vote for).
 
Every time I see this thread I think how fitting it is that Liam started it and reaffirms my decision to not watch it any more.
 
How many on here agree with that point about university attendance, are the numbers too high and the value of the degrees less than used to be the case?

Back in my day, you used to get paid to go to University and the % going was only a few. Then, a degree meant something because not that many people had them. I remember when I was studying my ACCA around the time that they changed all the names of colleges to university and one of my tutors, who was a right on, left of centre, kinda guy, was saying that it would devalue degrees and these new 'Universities' would be churning out a load of students with worthless degrees.

You can't have 50% of the population having degrees and tell me, or anyone, that they have as much clout as when only a few % had degrees. Also, since there is no way it can be funded, tucking people up with £10Ks worth of debt so they can go and work in a call centre, or something, seems pointless. We are where we are though, so I doubt there is an easy way out.
 
How many on here agree with that point about university attendance, are the numbers too high and the value of the degrees less than used to be the case?

Degrees are definitely worth a lot less. Some of the people I went to university with were, and I'm trying to be polite here, morons. They were there because it was the next step that they felt they had to take -- honestly, half of them would struggle with basic reading comprehension. I think that nowadays a masters is probably worth what a graduate degree was worth in times gone by, and a PhD is probably roughly the same as a masters. Degrees have definitely been devalued due to inflation, no doubt about it -- everyone seems to have one.
 
Back on again tonight at 10:35 after a break over the summer. Panel this week is Liz Truss, John McDonnell, Alex Salmond, Sandi Toksvig and Tim Stanley.
 
McDonnell's had several days to decide upon a response for the IRA question, let's see what he comes up with.
 
I'm actually more interested to hear what he has to say about the economy.

Indeed, it will be interesting to see if he holds to the position that nationalised companies should go without compensation. As well as some more detailed costing, for which there has been relatively little.
 
Toksvig calls for change, and then fails to answer the question on two separate occasions.