De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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mckenzie79 said:
So lets get this straight, De Gea throws his toys out out of the pram and its all LVG's fault, or even more hilariously Ed Woodwards fault.

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So what are we supposed to do? If De Gea has started to feck about ( if he has ) then I just don't see what LVG is supposed to do in this situation other than drop him.
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As you say, this is just speculation though.

What we do know for sure is that the club has known he wants to go and have done nothing constructive towards finding a suitable replacement.

And to add insult to that, his only suitable replacement has been openly criticised by the manager and asked to leave weeks ago.

They're the facts and that's bad management any way you look at it.
 
Dobba said:
No no no, because LvG said he isn't playing tomorrow. Apparently Madrid wouldn't have noticed if LvG had said nothing about the situation and DDG wasn't in the team.
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Oh yeah cause of that. We're weaking our negotiating position cause LVG said it.

Heads should roll for this, both LVG's and Woody's.
 
Chaky_Best said:
LVG his very honest... too honest I would say.

If it was our beloved Fergie, he would have kicked De Gea already, or pretending a back injury for him
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Fergie and Gill would have grabbed Perez by his balls and make him pay in June.
 
I don't think LVG has done anything too stupid or rash by his comments in the presser and ultimately by his dropping of De Gea. De Gea wants out....Real dont want to pay a decent price for what could be the future best GK and would like to feck us by signing him on a free...UTD doesn't (thankfully imo) wan't to be strong armed and make a point that no one is bigger than the club. So LVG is saying get your head out of your arse and be ready for the coming season or else you stand the chance of warming the bench for a lot of the season. I don't see any thing wrong with this. I don't get why people are saying Woody has failed in this sense. What do yo uwant him to do, go the same route we took for nani, rafa etc and severely undersell (something that so many caftards complain about)? Peopel are also saying that we should have gotten the keeper sit sorted then ,what do you think we got Valdes and subsequentlyRomero for then? Im not saying they are the best but given the circumstances they are pretty good options. The alternative would be to have splashed the cash for Lloris or Cillesen without knowing for sure if RM were going to stick to their plan of waiting it out to get De Gea on a free!
 
Ideally we should have sat DDG down and told him, "if Madrid offer x, then we will let you go as thats how much we value you, however if youre not signing the contract, we want you to give us an extra year, focus and then you will be free to leave and go home"...

Or something. TBH, im not even sure what discussions we had with him. He wasnt great against PSG but in the opposite nature, he was good against Barca.
 
LVG has been spot on with his handling of this situation. If De Geas mind is already in Madrid then he shouldn't play and he can sit on the bench for the reserves until he feels up for it.
 
Its amazing how there are people going "Van Gaal has weakened our negotiation power." The team comes first. He has watched De Gea all week in training and if he thinks he's not in the correct frame of mind and could cost us on the pitch, he is 100% correct in not playing him. Its all about the 3 points on Saturday. This isnt a case of someone being upset that he didnt get his way in training. This is a player who doesnt want to play for Manchester United. A player who's probably banked on the fact he'd be in Spain all summer, and now he's starting the season where he doesnt want to be. How are some people coming to the conclusion this is Van Gaal's fault?
 
If he would have played like he did against PSG, clearly mortified at the idea of getting injured, then I don't see how anyone can argue against this decision.
 
I'm sure there are fiendish negotiations going on at the moment between us and Real. I'm sure they have probably been arguing since DDG's pretty awful performance against PSG, since it was that game that the LVG and the coaching staff realised that he wasn't going to be a professional...and what I call 'sulk-play'
 
Unlikely lad said:
If he would have played like he did against PSG, clearly mortified at the idea of getting injured, then I don't see how anyone can argue against this decision.
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This again.

Why are people forgetting the Barca game? We could have been 2-0 down if it wasn't for him.
 
Bojan11 said:
This again.

Why are people forgetting the Barca game? We could have been 2-0 down if it wasn't for him.
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Missed the Barca game, but was there any situation where he had to come out 1v1, or was it just his shot-stopping that saved us?
 
CassiusClaymore said:
As you say, this is just speculation though.

What we do know for sure is that the club has known he wants to go and have done nothing constructive towards finding a suitable replacement.

And to add insult to that, his only suitable replacement has been openly criticised by the manager and asked to leave weeks ago.

They're the facts and that's bad management any way you look at it.
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How do we know for sure?

We don't know what De Gea has been saying to us in the summer, we've offered a new contract and were still negotiating, if he hasn't said outright he wants to go or hand in transfer request, we're fecked.

We're not going to sign Lloris and say to him' you start if De Gea leaves, but you'll be a reserve if he stays, ok?'

Until De Gea mans up and says what he wants we're left in limbo because we're desperate to keep him, but can't replace him till until he goes. I'm more angry with De Gea for leaving us in this situation than anyone else.
 
FujiVice said:
Its amazing how there are people going "Van Gaal has weakened our negotiation power." The team comes first. He has watched De Gea all week in training and if he thinks he's not in the correct frame of mind and could cost us on the pitch, he is 100% correct in not playing him. Its all about the 3 points on Saturday. This isnt a case of someone being upset that he didnt get his way in training. This is a player who doesnt want to play for Manchester United. A player who's probably banked on the fact he'd be in Spain all summer, and now he's starting the season where he doesnt want to be. How are some people coming to the conclusion this is Van Gaal's fault?
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Because the club didn't managed to steal Madrid checkbook, give himself a decent fee and send De Gea to Madrid.
And for the suitable replacement if the club had bought a replacement for De Gea before he left, the same folks would have criticized the club for jumping the gun to soon and weakened our stance.

Breaking News: Our stance was weak from the second De Gea pretended that he would sign a new contract.
 
Time to get rid. He's done well for us. But, he refuses to commit long term and his girly friend says he's already gone. It's best all round for the club and fans to let him go, and we all move on. Give Sam a chance to strut his stuff and put an older head on the bench.
 
Would I like to keep him? Yes. Is he irreplaceable? Nowhere near.

This is the most frustrating thing. His dream move back to Madrid has been talked about for over a year and yet, nearly 24 hours until we start the new season, we're reduced to him being about as useful to anyone as a chocolate fireguard, and having to pick which one of our reserves is the least worst option. I know it's fashionable to praise the way we tried hardball over this but come on, the minute his contract ran down to less than 12 months and he refused to sign, this very situation is the thing you try and avoid by cashing in as soon as you can.
I've been fairly content with our business this summer because we can only know so much from the outside, but given that our manager seemed resigned to losing Dave by the last home game of last season, I was under the assumption that one way or the other, we'd go into the season with an adequate replacement, or a content Dave for a year. If you'd have told me in May that Dave would still be at the club (but not involved in the squad) while we neglected to sign a worthy replacement, I'd have been fecking fuming because it's the worst route we could have took.

We'll miss his shot stopping, but there are more than enough keepers out there that could bring enough to the table for us to be able to replace him soon enough.
 
This is probably more a message to DDG. LVG could have given him an ultimatum. I wonder who will play. If we go by LVG's rules, it wont be Romero since he is not match fit
 
Unlikely lad said:
If he would have played like he did against PSG, clearly mortified at the idea of getting injured, then I don't see how anyone can argue against this decision.
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Every player is mortified at the thought of getting injured in a preseason game. You think they really go 100% in their duels ?
 
Obviously it's disappointing that he doesn't appear focussed and so is not able to be considered but I think it's somewhat understandable. Ultimately with a GK you don't want to risk it. The problem for us is that we've not put ourselves in a position on strength at all at least for me as I don't think Romero is a good enough alternative. We should have been right on looking for a solid player to be around as back up. If chelsea can get Begovic, who knows he's second choice to GK who's younger than him then surely we could have got a better alternative in after LVG and Valdes fell out.

I don't think people should jump the gun though. DDG might not be ready to play now but if it gets to the end of the window and Real haven't met our terms and we don't sell I don't think he'll be useless to us. The guy has already shown he's got good mental strength to get over his initial criticism/targeting when he first came. Knowing that Real isn't an option until next summer and having the Euro's coming up will focus his mind imo and we should still have a world class keeper for another season, giving us a whole season to find our replacement.

As I said for me the biggest issue is the alternatives to DDG that we've let ourselves end up with. Taking this stance with him was always going to have some problems while the window is open.
 
Bojan11 said:
Fergie and Gill would have grabbed Perez by his balls and make him pay in June.
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I would rather think that Mendes has a big contribution also. When Madrid is involved in a transfer he is always the cause.
Maybe that's why Fergie didn't worked a lot with him
 
Arguably our best player gone and the other isn't in the right frame of mind to start the season. Good stuff.
 
Chaky_Best said:
I would rather think that Mendes has a big contribution also. When Madrid is involved in a transfer he is always the cause.
Maybe that's why Fergie didn't worked a lot with him
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Fergie did. He even paid him for Bebe.
 
Its De Gea that has caused all this uncertainty. Why he cant just come out and say what he wants to end all the speculation and uncertainty, we can sort his transfer out, buy a replacement, he gets his move and we're all happy.

He's had all summer to sort it out and now the day before the season, his heads not in it because all the speculation is getting to him. Aww diddums, its your own fault, and now we're going into the first game with a reserve keeper. Well thanks for that Dave.

Grow up and sort it out either way so we can all move on and get on with our seasons. If your staying, sign, if your going, just say so.
 
JPRouve said:
De Gea won't play tomorrow because he is unsettled.
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Cheers after my post I read the press conference). I hope it is a way of threatening De Gea on what is going to happen this season if he doesn't extend, not a done deal with Madrid.
 
mckenzie79 said:
Its De Gea that has caused all this uncertainty. Why he cant just come out and say what he wants to end all the speculation and uncertainty, we can sort his transfer out, buy a replacement, he gets his move and we're all happy.

He's had all summer to sort it out and now the day before the season, his heads not in it because all the speculation is getting to him. Aww diddums, its your own fault, and now we're going into the first game with a reserve keeper. Well thanks for that Dave.

Grow up and sort it out either way so we can all move on and get on with our seasons. If your staying, sign, if your going, just say so.
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Do you really believe he doesn't know what he wants? He wants Real and I think everyone knows that. If he comes out and says that then what does it accomplish but get the fans on his back? The club know's he wants to go, they want the right price for him. Right now he could be staying until the end of his contract if that doesn't happen so there's nothing for him to say until it's settled. We should have had better alternatives in place to take this stance though. That for me is the biggest problem.
 
The anger is that this situation should have been resolved a long time ago.

Let's say in June that we signed Lloris and still kept De Gea. I wouldn't care about De Gea as we have a number one who can replace him. At the moment none of our goalkeepers could replace him.

We should have signed a goalkeeper regardless of DDG. We all know DDG is off otherwise he would have signed a new contract at the end of last season.

Basically we should have planned the season without DDG and we did not.
 
As far as I'm concerned de Gea can feck off now. Either sell him or stick him in the reserves. How much of a baby can you be that you're unable to play a game of football. Ridiculous.
 
LR7 said:
The only person to blame is De Gea
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Agreed - I still think if DDG had renewed with us when we started talking to him in 2013 but made it clear he wanted Real at some point soon that he could be a Real player now (probably right at the start of the summer) since they wouldn't be pissing about with low bids due to him being on a free next season.

If he had three years left then they could've made a sensible offer for us to accept on DDG's request (Ronaldo being the obvious template), plus DDG could've had at least last season on much higher wages.

As it is, how he and Mendes have played this could harm all concerned - us most of all, but I suspect neither care about that since DDG just wants Real, and Mendes wants to keep them sweet.
 
These footballers act like damn 10 year olds. This is now as bad as how di maria acted. Thanks Dave you donut stealing twat. Let him rot.
 
Bojan11 said:
The anger is that this situation should have been resolved a long time ago.

Let's say in June that we signed Lloris and still kept De Gea. I wouldn't care about De Gea as we have a number one who can replace him. At the moment none of our goalkeepers could replace him.

We should have signed a goalkeeper regardless of DDG. We all know DDG is off otherwise he would have signed a new contract at the end of last season.

Basically we should have planned the season without DDG and we did not.
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Agree with this. We have made a mess of it tbh.
 
Ash_G said:
Do you really believe he doesn't know what he wants? He wants Real and I think everyone knows that. If he comes out and says that then what does it accomplish but get the fans on his back? The club know's he wants to go, they want the right price for him. Right now he could be staying until the end of his contract if that doesn't happen so there's nothing for him to say until it's settled. We should have had better alternatives in place to take this stance though. That for me is the biggest problem.
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If De Gea comes out, the club will be in a position to accept a lesser fee, because De Gea won't be eligible for the rest of his contract and his loyalty bonus.
 
Sort of like Modric at Spurs a few years back, missed a few games because he was unsettled I think, ended up staying and had a great season. Just hope De Gea is still here come September, so we get one last year out of him.
 
mckenzie79 said:
How do we know for sure?

We don't know what De Gea has been saying to us in the summer, we've offered a new contract and were still negotiating, if he hasn't said outright he wants to go or hand in transfer request, we're fecked.

We're not going to sign Lloris and say to him' you start if De Gea leaves, but you'll be a reserve if he stays, ok?'

Until De Gea mans up and says what he wants we're left in limbo because we're desperate to keep him, but can't replace him till until he goes. I'm more angry with De Gea for leaving us in this situation than anyone else.
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Well if he hasn't signed a new contract it's fairly f'kin obvious he doesn't want to stay isn't it.

He's never been the type to speak to the press but I'm sure the club are well aware of his intentions and if they're not they damn well should be.
 
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