De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

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  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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Schmeichel's thoughts, not much different to everyone else's, tbh:

Peter Schmeichel believes it is "an absolute joke" that Manchester United did not sort out the future of David de Gea before the start of the season.

Real Madrid have been chasing De Gea all summer, but with five days of the transfer window left, the goalkeeper remains at Old Trafford.

United insist they will not sell De Gea to Madrid unless they receive a fee of over £32.6million for the 24-year-old, who has just one year left on his contract.

The Spaniard has not played for United this season because he has lost focus due to Madrid's interest in him, according to manager Louis van Gaal.

And Schmeichel admits the situation is far from ideal.

"I'm very thankful for what he has done for Manchester United and I would not hold anything against him if he moves on, but I want the situation resolved because it's an absolute joke that it has carried on into the season," the former United goalkeeper told the BBC.

"A club like Manchester United, being in a transition period, needed to be ready for the season with every issue resolved and not having two or three still hanging out there but hopefully it gets resolved now.

"I would love David de Gea to commit to Manchester United and sign a new five-year contract. He has been absolutely outstanding in the last two seasons.

"But I also understand when Real Madrid - who are from his home town - when they come calling, of course you want to go back there.

"I want to know - is he with us or someone else? And if he is with someone else I want the manager to have the opportunity to go out and buy another goalkeeper."
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http://sport.bt.com/sport-football/...andling-of-david-de-gea-saga-S11364000675337?
 
Definitely not a joke from our side. Madrid made their offer a long time ago and have not come back. Can't be expected to go begging for another offer. If anything DDG maybe should realize that they don't really want him that bad when in the past they've gladly paid large sums for players they really want. This is all on DDG and Madrid. We've got a player that wants to leave but, our valuation has not been met, so to us he stays till that is done. As for the manager, he can't play him if he thinks he is not going to be at a 100% and the other guy (Romero) has done well in his place.
 
If we end up selling him on deadline day for the kind of fee Madrid have been offering all Summer, then yeah, it will be a joke.

But if we get the fee we want, or he stays, then we'd have played it as well as possible considering the circumstances.
 
Sam nailed it.

I still believe that this saga is not over...Madrid always get their man and MUFC have a history of selling players for bargain basement prices.
The other issue is that Romero is not conceding goals.
Given all of the above, I honestly can't see him staying.
 
sunama said:
Sam nailed it.

I still believe that this saga is not over...Madrid always get their man and MUFC have a history of selling players for bargain basement prices.
The other issue is that Romero is not conceding goals.
Given all of the above, I honestly can't see him staying.
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They dont always get their man..they wanted Veratti..and gave up that chase within a week..
 
No matter what happens, the club has handled this matter in a shambolic manner. It should have been sorted a year ago - either De Gea signed a new contract or was told he could go.

As it is, we're into the new season and nobody knows what the goalkeeping situation will be. Could you see any other top club allowing this situation to develop? Of course not.
 
Rednotdead said:
No matter what happens, the club has handled this matter in a shambolic manner. It should have been sorted a year ago - either De Gea signed a new contract or was told he could go.

As it is, we're into the new season and nobody knows what the goalkeeping situation will be. Could you see any other top club allowing this situation to develop? Of course not.
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If he was told to feck off a year ago we wouldn't be playing CL football this season.
 
There is/was only one outcome to this and that is de gea going to madrid before the window closes, no matter what the club say about keeping him we will not let him run down his contract and Madrid will get their way.

The biggest concern for us is we are left with few options in terms of replacements now and the two most likely cancidates, cillessen and navas are not even significant improvements on Romero and nothing more than short term stop gaps.

Maybe we will have squeezed a few million more out of Madrid by dragging this out but whatever extra we Get for de gea will be wiped out by having to over pay even more for the other two. Madrid will be the big winners, they will get one of the worlds top keepers for a reasonable price and we could easily end up with a hugely inferior replacement like cillessen for virtually the same fee.
 
Roboc7 said:
There is/was only one outcome to this and that is de gea going to madrid before the window closes, no matter what the club say about keeping him we will not let him run down his contract and Madrid will get their way.

The biggest concern for us is we are left with few options in terms of replacements now and the two most likely cancidates, cillessen and navas are not even significant improvements on Romero and nothing more than short term stop gaps.

Maybe we will have squeezed a few million more out of Madrid by dragging this out but whatever extra we Get for de gea will be wiped out by having to over pay even more for the other two. Madrid will be the big winners, they will get one of the worlds top keepers for a reasonable price and we could easily end up with a hugely inferior replacement like cillessen for virtually the same fee.
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Based on exactly what evidence? that is the thing we have been hearing all summer, but on what evidence..intuition?
 
Rednotdead said:
Pure conjecture.
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You think we'd have finished where we did without him? We can carry a lesser keeper this season but sure as hell couldn't in 2014/15.

I also think the club is using the same logic this summer. We lose x amount by letting him go for free next summer but earn x+ money from a better season with the best keeper in the league playing for us.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
You think we'd have finished where we did without him? We can carry a lesser keeper this season but sure as hell couldn't in 2014/15.

I also think the club is using the same logic this summer. We lose x amount by letting him go for free next summer but earn x+ money from a better season with the best keeper in the league playing for us.
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And you really think he'll be the same player he was last season? He'll always mentally be somewhere else and every mistake will be magnified by the media.

I repeat, what other top club would have let the situation develop into the shambles it has?
 
Sam said:
If we end up selling him on deadline day for the kind of fee Madrid have been offering all Summer, then yeah, it will be a joke.

But if we get the fee we want, or he stays, then we'd have played it as well as possible considering the circumstances.
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If we sell him on deadline day for cheap ill curse the clubs name so bad they will hear me in Manchester lol. No point standing up to them if you are gonna cave at thr last minute.
 
With the Euros looming we are in a good position to remain defiant on our stance with de Gea and either hold out for a large fee, like the BBC quoted, or simply retain the player who is contracted to the club and should respect that while he remains a United player.

It's potentially a win-win, we get an exorbitant fee for a player on the final year of his contract , or we keep him and he regains his focus, bucks his ideas up and starts performing to secure a place in Spain's squad for the Euros. Even if he is perceived as Casillas's long-term successor in goal for Spain, he still won't want to rest on his laurels. If he does, then we've got a keeper who has so far barely stepped out of line, though I do have reservations about him in the long run.

Just make him see out his final year. The principle of our stance is just as important and will go to show, we will not be bullied by Madrid over future transfers.
 
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And you really think he'll be the same player he was last season? He'll always mentally be somewhere else and every mistake will be magnified by the media.

I repeat, what other top club would have let the situation develop into the shambles it has?
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There's a bunch of top clubs with important deals not yet sorted. Chelsea still haven't signed the CB they obviously want/need. They're watching a player they recently let go break transfer records to come back to the league and play against them. Last season they did something similar when they spent a tonne of money on Matic.

In terms of big clubs letting top players run down their contracts that's rare enough but we're in a bit of a unique situation here having one of the world's best players on our books who happens to come from Madrid. That was never going to end well but the role he played in securing CL football (and hence, attracting this summer's signings) should be looked back on as invaluable.
 
K2K said:
Based on exactly what evidence? that is the thing we have been hearing all summer, but on what evidence..intuition?
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No evidence to suggest he is staying, some comments/leaks to the media about not selling him mean nothing.

Biggest clue is he is sat in the stands because the manager doesn't want to play him and want is the point of running his contract down if he isn't going to play.

He wants to go, madrid want him and I am sure we want to sell now given the circumstances, just a matter of resolving the price.
 
Roboc7 said:
No evidence to suggest he is staying, some comments/leaks to the media about not selling him mean nothing.

Biggest clue is he is sat in the stands because the manager doesn't want to play him and want is the point of running his contract down if he isn't going to play.

He wants to go, madrid want him and I am sure we want to sell now given the circumstances, just a matter of resolving the price.
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But the manager has continually said that he will consider him post the transfer window and nothing has changed in that, and the club through all this has made the exact same noice, a world record fee for a gk which Madrid are about 15 mil away from...

How are you sure is my question? Because all you have given is a lot of guesswork on your side...He might leave or might not, but nothing you said makes it conclusive that he is leaving..you are right about him wanting to go to Madrid, and Madrid wanting him, but United is the missing link in your theory, what have they done to convince you they will sell for less than what they have demanded?
 
Now its pretty much cough up or make an about face to Madrid from us. It looks very likely that DDG will be wearing United's shirt this season.
 
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Rednotdead said:
No matter what happens, the club has handled this matter in a shambolic manner. It should have been sorted a year ago - either De Gea signed a new contract or was told he could go.

As it is, we're into the new season and nobody knows what the goalkeeping situation will be. Could you see any other top club allowing this situation to develop? Of course not.
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So if he didn't agree to a new contract we should havr sold him last summer, probably missed out on top 4 and CL so that we avoid uncertainty at the start of this season.
 
Rednotdead said:
No matter what happens, the club has handled this matter in a shambolic manner. It should have been sorted a year ago - either De Gea signed a new contract or was told he could go.

As it is, we're into the new season and nobody knows what the goalkeeping situation will be. Could you see any other top club allowing this situation to develop? Of course not.
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Erm... Real Madrid?
 
Rednotdead said:
No matter what happens, the club has handled this matter in a shambolic manner. It should have been sorted a year ago - either De Gea signed a new contract or was told he could go.

As it is, we're into the new season and nobody knows what the goalkeeping situation will be. Could you see any other top club allowing this situation to develop? Of course not.
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Eh? How could we have sold him last year, when Madrid didn't want him back then?
 
The end is near for him i feel.Madrid will pay the 30 million. Its just a gut feeling to me but i think he has gone.
 
Dreaded said:
So if he didn't agree to a new contract we should havr sold him last summer, probably missed out on top 4 and CL so that we avoid uncertainty at the start of this season.
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Don't be so melodramatic. There's absolutely no evidence that selling him last year would have resulted in us not making the CL. It's pure opinion, and yours isn't any more valid than mine.
 
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Why only Real Madrid?
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So we should have actively looked for a buyer for a world class player who was negotiating a contract with us and who's agent had been talking positively about the chance of an agreement.

That's the equivalent of going "feck it, we'll sell Januzaj now because I have an inkling he won't sign that contract we're negotiating over".
 
Pexbo said:
So we should have actively looked for a buyer for a world class player who was negotiating a contract with us and who's agent had been talking positively about the chance of an agreement.

That's the equivalent of going "feck it, we'll sell Januzaj now because I have an inkling he won't sign that contract we're negotiating over".
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De Gea was never negotiating a contract with us.
 
I would be very much looking forward to him staying if it happens, if only for the fact that it's unknown territory in recent years. There's been a few cases of heads being turned where transfers didn't go through in the end (Cabaye and Schneiderlin come to mind, though the next season they did both move) but this would be a huge one considering it's Spain's number one keeper. I think it's a fascinating situation and could be instructive for clubs in the future, a possible new paradigm of taking a transfer hit for the sake of one more year of lucrative performance.
 
I keep hearing about how we've let this situation develop - "why did we let him run his contract down?" "Why didn't we tell him 12 months ago to sign a new contract or he could go"

All this ignores the fact that it's the player who's in charge of the situation, not the club. We can't force the bloke to sign a contract, and we couldn't have let him go 12 months ago because no-one was offering to take him at that time (leaving aside that getting rid of the best keeper in the league at a time when we didn't have to, would have been complete madness)

We couldn't hawk him around to other clubs because he wouldn't have gone, and we offered him a very generous new contract which he wouldn't sign, so it always baffles me when people continue to suggest that somehow we've put ourselves in this position when, as I see it, much of this has been outside of our control!
 
If I try to look at this situation from the owners or Edward Woodwards perspective its clear that they want to make a statement. MUFC is not a selling club and we don't accept being pushed into the corner.

From what I can read of LvG comments its either pay what we want or DDG will stay.

Being regarded as the biggest club in the world is worth so much more then €20-25m, to be fair this is peanuts in the grander scheme. In this summers transfer window Woody has shown that the club is more careful doing business then the last couple of windows. Every transfer in and out we have done this summer could be justified, both economical and from a managers perspective.

I think if Real Madrid offer us £25m + 5-8m adds the deal can be done, but only if it looks like we come out on top and Perez and Mendez is willing to give United credit for deal to come thru. Otherwise we will continue to see DDG on the United bench/stands until Romero makes some horrible mistakes.

As a supporter I back the club all the way in this matter. No more push overs.
 
I think we're playing this well. Happy with the brinksmanship.
Use fecking Mendes' influence to get RMadrid to budge (re: one of their players) or something...
 
I really can't see him leaving this window. I don't think we are that worried about taking a hit on him by letting his contract run down and I don't believe Madrid are that desperate to sign him that they'd make us an offer we can't turn down when they know they can sign him next summer.
 
Keeping him is now of great importance for future transfers and how clubs will negotiate with us for years. I don't care about the money or even De Gea any more...I just want us to make a stand and show we won't be bullied.
 
If Lloris wasn't employed by Spurs then I could envisage us having sold De Gea and bought him as a replacement much earlier in the window.
 
MDFC Manager said:
He's going nowhere now. I don't understand why people think otherwise
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Obviously its all conjecture and speculation and your guess is as good as anybody elses.
But Real Madrid are a bigger club who want the best players, so we will sell to them. I know that people don't want to hear this, but that's just how it is.
We can resist...but given Romero's performance, is it really worth resisting?

Personally, I think we need to get rid of him - so we can focus on players who want to be with us.
I honestly believe we can do great things without DDG.
 
sunama said:
Obviously its all conjecture and speculation and your guess is as good as anybody elses.
But Real Madrid are a bigger club who want the best players, so we will sell to them. I know that people don't want to hear this, but that's just how it is.
We can resist...but given Romero's performance, is it really worth resisting?

Personally, I think we need to get rid of him - so we can focus on players who want to be with us.
I honestly believe we can do great things without DDG.
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We are willing to sell de Gea, but not if RM don't match our valuation. At the moment Real Madrid have a bigger pulling power than us, that doesn't mean we will just give in to whatever they offer. They either match our valuation or we keep him for a year, because de Gea has refused every new contract he's on relative low wages and we'd benefit more from him sportive wise than that we would benefit financially from selling him.
 
sunama said:
Obviously its all conjecture and speculation and your guess is as good as anybody elses.
But Real Madrid are a bigger club who want the best players, so we will sell to them. I know that people don't want to hear this, but that's just how it is.
We can resist...but given Romero's performance, is it really worth resisting?

Personally, I think we need to get rid of him - so we can focus on players who want to be with us.
I honestly believe we can do great things without DDG.
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Obviously Woodward doesnt think that way, and has said that on record plenty of times..we are probably going to be the richest team on the planet in 3 years again..The small club mentality has never been something we embrace at United..If we were willing to take Madrid's pennies and get this over with, we would have done this months ago and signed someone else..

We will get rid of him, for the price that we want ..When Madrid got rid of ADM, even when they actively sought to sell him, they didnt compromise on the fee..Im sure Woody remembers that and he is showing that two can play that game.

Playing hardball also means that Perez knows that next time and stays away from our players, especially as we will have higher baragaining power than this next time..As you have seen with clubs like Everton , clubs are no longer just bending and taking it..So no, they pay or we keep a world class for another season, goodluck to them against Messi, Suarez and Neymar with Navas and Rafa's defense..
 
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