Not that. I mean in this deal specifically. Can FIFA rule that the deal was fine and should LFP comply regardless of whatever their stance on the whole situation is.
De Gea Contract Situation
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LVG will probably not want to play him
The deal will go through in Jan, which will also mean he cannot play in Europe
DDGs fault though, no. He's been offered contracts and not signed them. He can't expect to play for a team he's looking to ditch.
Meanwhile Marca is suggesting that Navas wanted last minute changes to his deal and hence things got delayed.
Haha, so it's Real that royally fecked up the whole situation. 
This is getting even better.
This is getting even better.
This has been a fitting end (or no end) to this saga. Hilarious. The best of all, Spanish press's reactions 
For 12 months. He's not played this season as of yet, his head is in Madrid. You think he can perform at United for 12 months before he fecks off to Spain on a free transfer?
The De Gea situation is a massive feck up for the club. Starting with not tying him down with a contract sooner to not selling him when the writing was on the wall about 3 months ago.
Good post. Hower, the sole fact we entered the deal that late pisses me off. Ed should have told them to go fish.
No, its very unlikely that any deal will happen in January - there are going to be two cup tied keepers.
Yes, I think he can perform professionally enough for whatever part of the season remains. He needs to, to make it to the EURO squad.
Sky News reports that Madrid never even handed in the paperwork to UEFA!
I bet their only working fax machine jammed up!
What's "Oh fecking technology. Should not have retired Jesus, our last remaining pigeon last year" in Spanish?
I bet their only working fax machine jammed up!
What's "Oh fecking technology. Should not have retired Jesus, our last remaining pigeon last year" in Spanish?
how do you think united should have played it then? what was the ideal strategy to ensure we got as much money as possible for one of our most valuable assets? other than give them a figure we find acceptable and not deal with them until they bid that, you know, like most clubs do with their players.
I don't understand why you're apparently ruling out the possibility that De Gea will now shrug his shoulders, roll up his sleeves and get on with his job, being our keeper, for the rest of the season (or until January). Which would be by far the best outcome for us purely in terms of sorting out our crisis in that position.
What other option does he have? Of course Van Gaal may see it differently... Hopefully he isn't so pig-headed.
For me our keeper situation is a bigger mess if he goes. Now we have time to sort this. Yes it's expensive but in this instance I think it's best for us - certainly from a football perspective.
Has nobody ever heard of a file converter, beggars belief that with all the money flying around in football these days and somebody cannot open a document, I wonder how many times that document was clicked on before they called it all in.
A quick google search on 'file converters' and this would have been fixed for 10 euro.
On the flip side what a prank to play, couldn't be more happier that greedy madrid and de gea's recent cosey relationship has been put on ice. The way some posters are reacting on here, is a bit OTT, I like it that we are playing games with Madrid, serves the greedy bully-boys right.
A quick google search on 'file converters' and this would have been fixed for 10 euro.
On the flip side what a prank to play, couldn't be more happier that greedy madrid and de gea's recent cosey relationship has been put on ice. The way some posters are reacting on here, is a bit OTT, I like it that we are playing games with Madrid, serves the greedy bully-boys right.
This smells a bit off doesn't it?
Madrid hasn't formally asked FIFA to look into the deal. If they were that serious about this wouldn't they have been on the phone first thing in the morning? Its nearly lunchtime on the continent.
Part of me feels like Madrid were never that keen to pay anything for De Gea, and still wouldn't mind just getting a freebie next summer.
He'll want to play, and he'll play well for us. The first point-saving save he pulls off all the "embarrassment" that nutters like @Dans feel that we didn't sell him will seem ridiculous.
That's what I'm telling you, on the international transfer only, it's the FIFA who decides, on De Gea registration it's the LFP who decides if the FIFA allows the transfer.
For a player in his last year who doesn't want to be here I would have asked for a reasonable sum. 15m and I think the deal would have been done in a day.
We didn't though because Woodward wanted to make a name for himself and now we have a situation where we have Sergio Romero as our number 1 and DDG in no fit mental state to play for us, something that might or might not change in time (not that there's much of it), but if it doesn't, then we have taken a massive gamble and massively lost it.
You're right about it being a cluster feck. You say you don't care whose fault it is but seem very keen to point the finger at United (a recurring theme for you, since Fergie retired)
I think Woody's overseen a number of transfer market farces and have very little faith in him but this situation really put him in an impossible situation. The player was adamant he wanted to leave and play for Madrid, yet they didn't make a bid until the final 24 hours of the transfer window. We can't sign a replacement until we're sure De Gea is going and we can't be sure he's going until we receive a bid we feel is fair. Then Madrid finally take their thumb out their arse, come to us with a proposal, which we accept and they somehow manage to feck up the paperwork at their end. Incredible. Even their arse-licking publication of choice, Marca, is blaming them for what's happened.
So yes, it's a cluster feck but - for once - this is something you can't be critical of United about.
I can't really get behind the logic on here that assumes that even though De Gea has refused to sign a new contract for the last year, if we'd only thought to try a few months earlier he would definitely have signed. Despite Moyes being in charge and despite a lot of reports making out that getting a move to Real has always been his end game whilst at United (signing on with Mendes specifically to get the move, etc).
Hindsight is 20/20 and all that.
Hindsight is 20/20 and all that.
I hope de Gea does think about this. Real Madrid don't see players as players, more like toys, and every year they have to buy a new one to keep themselves entertained. After all the pish that they've fed to Marca about him being desperate to join them they still sat about doing nothing all summer after we told them what our demands were. Instead they played around until the last minute hoping to get the price down so that they would look all powerful and mighty (Real Madrid don't have to pay what others demand, they demand others to sell players to them) all the while knowing that de Gea was probably getting more and more worried as the deadline grew closer. But, no, feck the player's feelings because Real Madrid have to play their little toy buying game for another year.
I hope that's what Dave thinks, and then he decides to sign a ten year deal with us and get a tattoo on his forehead that says "F*ck Real Madrid and f*ck Juventus".
Poll added on the homepage for who is to blame - let's settle this once and for all
What a cluster feck on all sides this is. This leaves us in a terrible position. De Gea's head is proper screwed now, how can he come back to play for us this season? If he does, can we trust him to be at his best?
Navas would have been a decent replacement but now we're stuck with Romero unless we move on Cillessen right now, but we can't until we get confirmation that the De Gea transfer will go through or not. God knows when that will happen.
Utter shambles
What a cluster feck on all sides this is. This leaves us in a terrible position. De Gea's head is proper screwed now, how can he come back to play for us this season? If he does, can we trust him to be at his best?
Navas would have been a decent replacement but now we're stuck with Romero unless we move on Cillessen right now, but we can't until we get confirmation that the De Gea transfer will go through or not. God knows when that will happen.
Utter shambles
And when did your beloved Madrid first make a bid for the player?
So 15M was your evaluation. I guess that ends the discussion.
depends what he's said all summer to real and de gea. sounds to me like we've been open to the move if the right figure was bid, there has been a load of reports stating we'd want a record bid for a keeper if we were to lose him. if we then went back on that we'd alienate de gea even more and put madrid off dealing with us.
The poster I can't criticise had posted that the club apparently gave him the ultimatum to sign or not play for United again. And people answered his post by saying they liked that stance.
All of those people in here blaming United for any of this transfer bollocks and are embarrased for us need to use their brains and think before spouting bollocks.
Only thing we're to blame for is not sorting out his contract sooner. The rest has absolutely nothing to do with us.
As if we don't get enough bashing from the media, we need it from our thick fans too.
Only thing we're to blame for is not sorting out his contract sooner. The rest has absolutely nothing to do with us.
As if we don't get enough bashing from the media, we need it from our thick fans too.
We named a fee and waited for a counter-offer. That's how negotiations work. The fact this arrived 24 hours before the window closes is what fecked it all up. We ended up accepting 22m, so not far off your "reasonable sum"
ah Niall! De Gea will be grand. Better him than Navas this season.Poll added on the homepage for who is to blame - let's settle this once and for all
What a cluster feck on all sides this is. This leaves us in a terrible position. De Gea's head is proper screwed now, how can he come back to play for us this season? If he does, can we trust him to be at his best?
Navas would have been a decent replacement but now we're stuck with Romero unless we move on Cillessen right now, but we can't until we get confirmation that the De Gea transfer will go through or not. God knows when that will happen.
Utter shambles
Don't talk anymore, you talk far too much sense, it's the club's fault that they didn't get a player to sign a contract he never had any intention of signing
I can't criticise you, so I won't.
It would have been a solution wouldn't it? As of now, we have no solution and have a bigger problem than we had before (Romero in goal, DDG suffering mental anguish and unfit to play)
He'll probably demand we just give free transfers to all players from now on so that we don't inconvenience other clubs and "embarrass" him.
Are you capable of reading the posts you respond to? He just asked why you don't think it's possible that De Gea knuckles down and gets on with his job. That's got nothing to do with some random rumour I read off the internet, or any else's opinions on that rumour.
personally i'd be annoyed with 15m, far more annoyed than i am this morning with what's transpired overnight. we paid more than that for ashley young in his last year, and a damn sight more for an ageing rvp who seemingly only had one more year in his crippled legs.
i agree completely about romero, he shouldn't be anywhere near the number one spot.
Who the feck is that Scottish cnut on SSN blaming all this on us!
I cant remember being this gobsmacked, its simply staggering
The only theory that makes any sense is that RM are after a freebie next summer. Navas is in good form so they're in no hurry. I'd love to think we could strong arm De Gea into signing an extension now, just so a) we can tell RM to feck right off and b) he doesnt have to spend 4 months rusting away in the recycle bin
The only theory that makes any sense is that RM are after a freebie next summer. Navas is in good form so they're in no hurry. I'd love to think we could strong arm De Gea into signing an extension now, just so a) we can tell RM to feck right off and b) he doesnt have to spend 4 months rusting away in the recycle bin
can't expect too no, but if he works hard then he is by far and away our best goalkeeper ......why on earth would we not play him? he's the second best goalkeeper in the world, its best for both united and De Gea that he gets his head in the right mind set and plays
Surprised at you posting random rumours off the internet - you always act like you're better than that.
Somehow SSN's Alan McInally is using the whole debacle to stick it to United, despite acknowledging United have done nothing wrong
The club should tell him he can only play if he signs an extension so we can get a fee for him, otherwise he rots in the U-18s till June and doesn't get #1 at the Euros.
Sid Lowe seems to hinting that some deliberate sabotage went on here. Did Madrid decide to lead us on, then deliberately screw up the deal so we get nothing and he signs next summer for them? If the stories about MAdrid not attempting to register him are correct, this would be one explanation.
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