why do you think they had concerns?
De Gea Contract Situation
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why do you think they had concerns?
Why did we wait till the last day of the window? Did that help us in anyway?
'We showed Madrid', that is good and all, but was it advantageous to us?
Great, so RM fans say United at fault and United fans saying opposite. Now both club also release statements. Both keepers will be highly skeptical and as a Barca fan that's a good news!
And I am sure De Gea's girl friend will be making his life miserable now
And I am sure De Gea's girl friend will be making his life miserable now
We're the selling club. A better question is why did they wait until the last day.
This is a pretty big FU to Madrid. It's a slap in the face to them and it shows how devious and sneaky they are when they want a player. The £10 Million compensation also shows the lengths they will go to, to unsettle another clubs player. This public humiliation of Perez and Madrid is payback for every time they have fecked us over or paid a low price for one of our players. I couldn't give a feck about losing him for free if he performs like he did last season. It will just be a huge bonus for United this season. Plus, there is always the chance he may change his mind, the more Madrid act like spoiled, incompetent, uncaring feckwits, the more likely that will happen.
Let them keep talking. It's only harming them.
I also don't see the contradiction in United's statement. "we didn't want to sell" "we accepted an offer" is not really a contradiction because the club have said all along they didn't want to sell De Gea. Maybe it should have said "we were extremely reluctant to sell" instead. Personally I can see that they only accepted the offer because it included Navas and because it was clear De Gea wanted to go. That doesn't mean they wanted to sell though.
Let them keep talking. It's only harming them.
I also don't see the contradiction in United's statement. "we didn't want to sell" "we accepted an offer" is not really a contradiction because the club have said all along they didn't want to sell De Gea. Maybe it should have said "we were extremely reluctant to sell" instead. Personally I can see that they only accepted the offer because it included Navas and because it was clear De Gea wanted to go. That doesn't mean they wanted to sell though.
If it is true that Madrid are going to compensate DDG with 10 mil EUR, then he does not lose much from the situation either. United are content to use him for another year, Madrid are happy to sign him on free and DDG is happy to add 10 mill EUR to his bank account.
Are you about to cry ?This absolutely. They will try and tell De Gea it was United's fault, but the club releasing that statement was great.
WE did not wait , RM only made the official bid yesterday.
Who's done that?
My only complaint is there are ways to go about it and personally I didn't like the route they had chosen. Everyone knows we would have got a letter and blah blah blah. No treating people with respect and being a coward. He's done so many great things on the pitch, he could have said something and most would understand. Now maybe it's Mendes fault? If it is, let's see if he get's rid of that parasite...
The fact is, he didn't give a shit if United got robbed by Madrid. He could quite easily have signed a contract with a clause but he didn't. So i'd be half tempted to offer him a contract without one. See if he's learnt anything
What?
Because they weren't paying us according to his value. So they waited till the last day, technically.
Only time will tell whether it was advantageous to us. Getting Navas and 30 million would have been good. Keeping De Gea who will now give his best most likely is an even better situation in the short term even though we're losing out financially. And you never if he signs a new contract although that looks unlikely.
Also, I'm not sure why you and noodles are confused by that line in the club statement. It makes complete sense given our stance on things.
How did we wait? Do we tell Madrid when to bid?
If the roles were reversed and we fecked up a signing by leaving it too late would you blame the selling club?
AS are revelling in this.
Seriously every year someone says this at this time regardless of what I post. It happens every single year. Last year it was because I said we'd finish below Arsenal and struggle to finish 4th...which is what happened. The year before it was because I claimed Vidic wasn't very good anymore. Is it meant to hurt me in some way suggesting I'm being illogical? My personal favourite was when I was getting pages of stick for saying Rio and Vidic were past it as a pairing, while there was simultaneously another thread running where the same people were claiming Wayne Rooney was secretly deciding which players we signed. It's always this time of year it goes most hostile/mad. Not being aggressively positive/mental about things = being overly negative.
Plus I'm not even criticising I just think the statement is hilariously childish.
It could have just said "we submitted the documents at this time" and left it at that...and even then anyone not too busy being childish with their "ner ner ner so there Madrid" glasses on wouldn't actually care, would they? I mean why do you REALLY care who did what?
Instead it contradicts itself three times and then ends with some hilarious claim that we were "delighted" with what happened. It literally says that. People think it's a good statement. It sounds like something my mum might conjure up on a Saturday evening after all the Prosseco is gone.
But no really it's great. Very professional. Don't laugh at it whatever you do.
they didn't need to waste twice the cost and their goalkeeper, on a player who will go there soon anyway
That didn't really help us, did it? It didn't allow us to get a first choice keeper, which already cost us in the last match. And now we do not know if De Gea will be in his element to contribute for us again.
Like I said, the statement, which I found childish from both clubs, is irrelevant. The question to ask is, did all this posturing help United in anyway? I am not sure of that answer yet. I guess we'll find out in the following weeks.
I reckon Real Madrid did mess the deal up on purpose, apparently not the first time they've done it neither. It'll be interesting to see what happens to him now.
Financial implications?
I'm guessing they'll have got a few heads together late in the evening and decided it was too much to splash out knowing they already had a decent goalkeeper. If they were desperate for De Gea they would have signed him prior to yesterday. They'll be getting him for free unless De Gea changes his mind.
If I was Van Gaal , I would put any pride or feelings that I may have about the whole issue aside. And have a talk with De Gea man to man and explain to him, that if he signs a new contract, then he is welcome back into the side as soon as it is felt that he has put what happened recently, behind him and has his head fully on playing his part in the team. I would explain to him that he can put a clause in his contract that if Real Madrid bid for him we will let him leave, as long as the bid is 30 million. I would tell him if they refuse to bid that much then they really do not want you.
I don't get how some people are blaming us for this, he's our player and we value him at X amount. Madrid tried to act smart and it backfired, the response that United went out with was absolutely spot on. I hope to God we win a couple of matches now just so people relax a bit, it's getting really annoying.
From what I heard from acouple Madrid fans here alot of them thought this was a terrible deal, I wonder if maybe they did get cold feet. Some of the polls showed fans didn't like the deal apparently. All according to the loud spanish fan in my office haha
Them choosing to not appeal or even try whatever they could for the deal now, as well as not bidding until the very last day suggests they were never 100% about it. Maybe Benitez was fine with Navas, maybe the fan reaction cooled their interest. If it mattered that much, they'd ensure it got done and bask in the PR glow. I think we were always OK with losing him for free next year so the end result is acceptable.
If I were De Gea I'd wonder just how much Real really wanted me at the Bernabeu in the first place, seeing as they've allowed themselves to cock this up.
The post-Fergie days have shown we have far too many spoiled, miserable feckers for fans
It's amazing. Where have we attacked the couple.
Didn't stop any of my family from conceiving. My sister and I were early autumn babies so maybe there's something in your theory.
the story was they messed the Coentrao loan to Moyes as they couldn't find a replacement in time
Did I just read this? Were United supposed to go begging Real Madrid to make an offer for De Gea? The onus is on the buying club to initiate a contact/make a bid. Ffs!
No it doesn't. It says we're delighted he's still a United player, not with how it all happened.
It only says that if you intentionally twist the wording to suit your own views. Literally.
http://www.marca.com/debate/2015/08/152527/prevotaciones152527.html - 90% of the voters didn't like the deal.
So Madrid only made their first bid yesterday, on La Liga deadline day?
If that's the case, then we can't accept any blame for this. Why didn't they bid until the last possible day? They've had all summer, and we never stated he was categorically not for sale. United wanted a fair price, and/or a player in return.
If that's the case, then we can't accept any blame for this. Why didn't they bid until the last possible day? They've had all summer, and we never stated he was categorically not for sale. United wanted a fair price, and/or a player in return.
No you're not just lacking in positivity, you've become dreadfully negative. Almost as predictable as Devlish, albiet an articulate and witty version. And I've always liked you as a poster.
It was a poorly written statement but it's simply setting the FACHTS straight after another club has put the blame on United. I don't see an issue. That's what you'd expect any corporate to do especially when the other side has submitted something in such detail. And that sentence which a few of you picked up on isn't even contradictory. We agreed to sell De Gea because he wanted to go, and we accepted a deal we thought was fair for us too. But once it didn't go through we got to keep our star man. It's not what we intended when we submitted the paperwork, but De Gea staying (albiet not with a contract running down) IS what the club wanted.
That's very true, people need to realise every big club bar Madrid have had their ups and downs over the years. We lost arguably the best manager ever so it's gonna take time, yes it's frustrating but it's the way it is. We have no divine right to win shit.
What a strange thing to say.
Utd classy, Real tawdry - nothing to see here.
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