Here's hoping. I think he would relish the challenge of proving he can still do it here more than waltzing the tinpot French league anyway.
Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)
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We've signed players older than Ronaldo, way older, and they've done well. If he was 33, 34 I'd have reservations but at 30 he still has a lot to offer.
His injury record is good and he's as fit as a flea.
At £60m it's a no brainer in my opinion.
Who? Van der Sar?
31, on a decline, with some doubts about his knees and ankles, and living mainly on penalties and tap-ins in the last year. There are better ways to invest 60m.
And by the way, that's without even considering how stupid we'll look for selling him for 80 an buying him back after 7 years for 60.
Real were thinking they got the best player in the world too when they crazily bought Kaka for 65m.second-best player in the world: no thanks?
It's not about Ronaldo in 2014. It's about how Ronaldo will be in 2017, 2018, 2019...
If we're going to spend big, then at least spend it on talent with potential.
When you post a source you should really read it carefully before using it as evidence (though in this case WhoScored have made it unclear by adding his NT stats of last season and then only adding the goals and not the apps to the total for some reason). He's actually scored 13 goals in 19 games for club & country so far this season, and 5 of those came in a single game against Espanyol. (13 in 16 for Real Madrid and 0 in 3 for Portugal).
Still excellent numbers, though not as impressive. (Certainly not when coupled with his performances).
We paid around 24 million for one season from RVP. If it brought us the league it would definitely be worth it.
We have?
Ronaldo would pay for himself in merchandise no matter how he'd perform. If United go after him it will always be because he's worth it on the pitch. Money isn't a problem.
Personally I think he'd fit the current system well. There's room for his ego and the system suits him alright. The question really is how much of a problem is his chronic injury? He's one of those players that take super well care of himself so he's going to be playing for a long time. I think that time will be spent in Madrid. He won't leave unless something spectacular happens in the capital that forces him away.
RVP is the perfect example why we shouldn't splash blank cheques on players at that age.
Also, RVP was great, but we learned the hard way it was really SAF bringing us all those trophies.
To think they'd manage to rip us off again after that Di Maria debacle.
You act like we've been linked with Emile Heskey. It's Cristiano Ronaldo, even if he's not up there with Messi anymore he's still head and shoulders above anyone in the premier league.
He'd run absolute riot, and although I think there is wiser ways to spend that sort of cash we should definitely go for it if he wants to come back and is available.
Scweinsteiger is older. Paul Scholes came back from retirement. Van der Sar was older, so was Blanc. Henke Larsson came in on a loan. CL hero Sheringham was older. Not sure if there was anybody else since SAF.
That's a common misconception, "shirt sales". No player would pay for himself through shirt sales, yes he will sell a lot of shirts, but the total United shirts sold won't increase by that much. All the merchandise might cover part of his astronomical wages, but the idea that his costs will be (even partly) covered by "merchandise" is simply not accurate.
I agree though that he won't leave Madrid easily. After all, that's where his heart lies.
I love Ronnie but you could end up in a situation similar to Rooney. A superstar name whose clearly past his best and holds the team back. There's a reason plenty of the analysts in Spain believe he's in a steady decline and when you watch his for a full 90 it's hard to disagree, combined with his massive ego I'd much rather see us put 60m towards one of the best young players in Europe.
Its a 31.5 years old Ronaldo (at the beginning of next season). That is a problem. Believe it or not - and as weird as it sounds - players apparently start declining in their thirties.
Two years too late. I'd rather take my chances and trust the club to sign another promising youngster like Martial than a Ronaldo in decline.
These aren't players who rely heavily on their physique like Ronaldo does.
Goalkeepers are a different breed, other than that we've got a a loanee, a retiree coming back, BFS was like £7m and Blanc, what, £2m as a temp stop gap?
Cheap transfers/stop gaps/loans. Not a club record transfer.
People who want Ronaldo for 60m now are mainly people who are emotionally attached to him, and don't watch him regularly nowadays (just watch some highlights and stats).
Arrrgggh, not the shirt sales bullshit again, please!!
Your examples actually destroyed his point, not support it.
Nobody said no if we can get him on the cheap.
I'd rather we didn't sign him. He seems to be declining and his age puts me off. A few seasons ago? Sure. But too late now IMO.
So basically the people who run Manchester United then.
Second best player in the world??
The things change quickly, now I think players like Muller, Lewandowski offers more than Ronaldo.
The things change quickly, now I think players like Muller, Lewandowski offers more than Ronaldo.
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When I watch Real I hardly notice he's on the pitch, seems to have become a goal hanger, albeit an effective one, also seems to like a good whine at his teammates these days.
I don't want to buy him back for an extravagant fee. Thats just me though.
I don't want to buy him back for an extravagant fee. Thats just me though.
We'll see.
I'd still take him, but I'd be very reluctant about paying a massive fee now.
Wait, you think the people who run the club would sign off on a £60m transfer on the basis of an emotional attachment to a player they don't regularly watch?
Don't want him. Ronaldo chose to up sticks and leave just as he started to achieve greatness, frustratingly sulked through that final season and has since given his best years to Madrid. So, United get to mould him into a great player, and then get him when he's on the downhill slope. Sod that.
If we're going to bring a player back to United for silly money, I'd rather it was Pogba than Ronaldo.
If we're going to bring a player back to United for silly money, I'd rather it was Pogba than Ronaldo.
Yes, he is only interested in improving his statistics.
If he's being allowed to leave Real, buyer beware.
Personally think Bale is more what we need & would be the wiser investment. Ronnie will want a 3/4 year deal & be on massive wages. He doesn't work hard enough for the team & is a bit of a sulker when things don't go his way.
I believe he'd be better off going to the less challenging French league, he'd got maybe 3 good seasons there before heading off to US, China or the Middle East. Coming to United I see another Rooney situation developing, past it overpaid & on a long contract.
Personally think Bale is more what we need & would be the wiser investment. Ronnie will want a 3/4 year deal & be on massive wages. He doesn't work hard enough for the team & is a bit of a sulker when things don't go his way.
I believe he'd be better off going to the less challenging French league, he'd got maybe 3 good seasons there before heading off to US, China or the Middle East. Coming to United I see another Rooney situation developing, past it overpaid & on a long contract.
Jesus, anyone wanting Ronaldo can't have watched him play very often this season. He unbalances a team, when he was at his peak we had to sacrifice the opposite wing by putting in a park/fletcher to carry the extra defensive workload. It was great when he was smashing teams left and right, now it's just a liability.
We'd be far better off spending the money on Bale. Ronaldo's career is winding down now, Bale still has years left. People say he's overrated or whatever, but if he ends up going to City he will absolutely tear the league a new one and those people will eat their words.
That's precisely my point. This idea that he would return for romantic reasons completely misses the point that the club, Fergie, LvG, Giggs et all want him back to be successful.
Holds who back? He still has searing pace and is a great finisher.
The entire Madrid squad had a chat with Benitez about how they are held back as an attacking force by his tactics. This is more complex than simply Ronaldo declining with age.
Not all signings work out, those people aren't infallible.
I would love for him to play for us again, but this season he has seemed less interested in playing this season weather it is because he doesn't like playing for Rafa or he's more interacted in things outside football like making his own movie and publish in his own brand.
Could be a bit like the Kevin Pieterson situation for the England cricket team, world class player but could create more problems then he solves when things don't go his way
Could be a bit like the Kevin Pieterson situation for the England cricket team, world class player but could create more problems then he solves when things don't go his way
We should sign him next summer.
Yeah, I don't even understand how people can possibly believe that it makes sense. The man is making 17 million Euros NET per year. If he leaves he'll want even more, his last big paycheck and all. Surely 20 million Euros at least. That's about 40 million Euros gross that he costs the club every year just in wages. On a 4 year contract he would cost the club about 160 million Euros just in wages, fee not included. I'd like to see the maths how he can even remotely "recoup" any of that.
I'd take him for £30m top, plus Rooney sold. There's not enough room in the squad for two past their physical peak superstars with injuries/consistency concern. Ronaldo would demand about £16-17m a year net in wage as well so that has to be considered.
IMHO we are better off going for Griezmann and Teixeira with the same outlay that would need to be spent on Ronaldo (wage+ transfer fee). They are also players near their peak making the step up so there won't be a lack of motivation.
The player Ronaldo was at United in 06/07/08 is gone. People expecting him leading the attack and flying down the wings are in for a real heartbreak.
IMHO we are better off going for Griezmann and Teixeira with the same outlay that would need to be spent on Ronaldo (wage+ transfer fee). They are also players near their peak making the step up so there won't be a lack of motivation.
The player Ronaldo was at United in 06/07/08 is gone. People expecting him leading the attack and flying down the wings are in for a real heartbreak.
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