McDonnell's started off well
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I wasn't eh only one thinking that then.
Are you mad? He's been rambling all over the place.
I've seen more discipline in a mental home.
I think "on the environment" was meant to be a cue, John, rather read aloud.
Reading from Chairman Mao's book 
Maos. Little red book... Oh dear (you would have thought he would at least have it on I pad by now)
"...which brings me on to my main point about why dolphins are getting caught in nets by greedy middle management and being turned into glue so the capitalists don't have to sew together the pages in their homemade editions of Mein Kampf. And another thing; who the feck let the floating purple ghost of John Lennon's head into the House?!"
I'm still puzzled at the moment. The overall tone of the statement was that spending will be protected or going up in just about everything. This produced cheers on the day, yet it obviously cannot be true. Tomorrows papers may tell a different tale.
So what is Corbyn going to do about McDonnell, or more probably when? I can't imagine there will be a queue of Labour MPs waiting to take his place. Until Corbyn himself has gone, that is.
So what is Corbyn going to do about McDonnell, or more probably when? I can't imagine there will be a queue of Labour MPs waiting to take his place. Until Corbyn himself has gone, that is.
Because we need more kids coming through to look after you in your dotage.
I'm getting flashbacks to Clint Eastwrood's appearance at the Republican National Convention, somebody please stop McDonnell.
ETA: Phew, he's finished.
ETA: Phew, he's finished.
That's the tone of most statements, the cuts are done behind closed doors. It's just PR and why these are best ignores nail the details come out.
Please tell me that he did not reference Chairman Mao's Little Red Book. In the name of all that is holy.Reading from Chairman Mao's book
In jest at Osbourne's expense regarding selling off assets but yeah, not sure what he was thinking
Take him out back and beat him over the head repeatedly with a tablet PC whilst repeatedly screaming "It's euthanasia, but with an iPad!"
Well, that was utterly woeful.
You can forgive a bad speech in these situations as it's a difficult task but the little red book was obviously preplanned which was just a stupid thing to do.
Is there any way it can be spun to say that it was actually merely a pack of Sun-Maid raisins?
Because otherwise the shadow chancellor just held up Chairman Mao's Little Red Book and genuinely thought he wasn't being insane.
Because otherwise the shadow chancellor just held up Chairman Mao's Little Red Book and genuinely thought he wasn't being insane.
That's not the official Corbyn for Prime Minister twitter, FYI.
Chris Bryant's face here is one of torturous agony. John McDonnell's is one that's just realised he's down something that he regrets.
What a stupid thing to do. And he started pretty well, underlining Osbourne is breaking his own welfare cap and his forecasts have been all over the place
Good point, just one of his more visible supporters on twitter.
That's even worse than the ipad thing.
If you're gonna quote someone like Mao you should probably find a better quote.
"In waking a tiger, use a long stick." or something.
"In waking a tiger, use a long stick." or something.
Oh yeah, I'm pining for those good old days right now!That's even worse than the ipad thing.
As much as I've got plenty of respect for Corbyn himself, his appointment of McDonnell has just been utterly awful. Completely appalling.
Not really, that account has 1.7k followers compared to the @jeremycorbyn4PM account which has about 97k.
In any case though, quoting Mao is a stupid thing to do.
I wonder who's next, Stalin?
As the Labour whips used to say to differentiate between the two of them, "one's a lost cause, the other's a shit."
McDonnell's antics begin to look like deliberate sabotage of his leader.
They really do.
Okay I've just seen the wider context of the Mao thing and it's nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be. Just wished he'd stopped at presenting the book rather than going on to read from it.
out of interest - who in here actually disagrees with the point being made?
out of interest - who in here actually disagrees with the point being made?
Well, I have no doubt that when the smoke clears and the mirrors are removed, there'll be all sorts of horrible small print that makes this a damaging budget. But as a piece of political presentation designed to win an election, that was masterful stuff.
In dropping tax credit cuts, stopping police cuts, implementing a housebuilding programme, investing in transport infrastrucuture and increasing NHS funding, Osborne has stopped every major Labour attack line dead in its tracks.
Add in a 19% drop (!) in money for opposition parties that will further slash the Labour Party's budget, and McDonnell's stunt, and its been an awful day for Labour.
If memory serves that account was Corbyn's actual leadership campaign twitter account, til he won the election. Now no-one knows who runs it.
Edit: well, someone knows I suppose...
In dropping tax credit cuts, stopping police cuts, implementing a housebuilding programme, investing in transport infrastrucuture and increasing NHS funding, Osborne has stopped every major Labour attack line dead in its tracks.
Add in a 19% drop (!) in money for opposition parties that will further slash the Labour Party's budget, and McDonnell's stunt, and its been an awful day for Labour.
If memory serves that account was Corbyn's actual leadership campaign twitter account, til he won the election. Now no-one knows who runs it.
Edit: well, someone knows I suppose...
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I think the one I gave the @ for was the leadership one and changed to a 'for PM' one after he won as I followed it when it was the former and still follow it now. Not sure where this other one 'Corbyn4nextPM' came from.
The context or validity of the point doesn't matter, even though it was valid and slightly humorous.
It should be obvious to anyone let alone a politician that the context will go out of the window and the story would be him preaching from the little red book. He's completely sabotaged his own point by making his delivery the story.
Corbyn should feck him off now whilst it looks like anger rather than down the line when it looks like conceding.
Whether or not it's a decent point though, it's just absurd to start quoting Mao in parliament. McDonnell should've known that it wouldn't go down well, and should know that quoting a figure such as Mao just isn't a wise tactic.
Yeah I don't disagree with you that it was stupid. Had he stopped at bringing out the book he'd have landed himself a decent soundbite. As it was he's opened himself and the party to criticism.
Hopefully, from a pro-Labour POV, Channel 4's coverage (which has the quip about nationalisation and him presenting the book but cuts off straight afterwards), will be representative of the rest of the coverage, though I suspect the papers will pick up on it in a big way.
Again, I agree entirely.