He deservingly has a great resume, but so does Trapattoni for example.
He's just not the right fit here , and almost halfway through his tenure here I am far from convinced.
Comments are a bit OTTP though
Louis Van Gaal | 2015-16 Performance Thread
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He's just not the right fit here , and almost halfway through his tenure here I am far from convinced.
Comments are a bit OTTP though
What have the Romans ever done for us? Newcastle at home you can add to that list, and Spurs away was a good performance despite the 0-0. In fact it was probably our best first half performance last season. Then you had decent performances against the likes of Villa, Leicester and Burnley. Overall our football was a huge improvement compared to the first half of the season.
I don't really care what he's done in the past. You could reel of a list of awards and trophies that Rooney has won, and he'd look like the greatest player on earth.
The past is the past, and right now, he's had complete freedom to create the exact squad he wants, been given over £250 million worth to spend on who he wants, been allowed to sell who he wants (including his own record signing) and these are the results? Cowardly football with absolutely no risk attached? Its pathetic.
If I could say it to his face, I would. In fact, I'd absolutely love to tell him how shit his football is. I'd write him a letter, but he'd probably just pass it to someone else, who would in turn pass it on to someone else, before eventually the letter would return itself right back to the start, and I'd have to send it all over again.
Can completely accept that. I'm starting to think the same myself.
I think his experiences at Bayern and possibly his age have taken an edge off. If we're all honest, even Fergie became more conservative and risk averse as he got older. Todays fixture last year was a terrible day for Van Gaal's United as well. We were playing some decent football up until Leicester hit us for 5 and something switched inside Louis. We've not taken a single risk since.
I'm just as disappointed in his transfer dealings and squad management.
Saying his football is shit, that his tactics are wrong or that he's wasted money for poor results is one thing.
Calling him a fraud and a coward is something else entirely.
it has begun as it did at bayern.
For all those I can bring up the following easily as a counter-example:
Yeovil, Cambridge, QPR away, Stoke away (and that was just January,the following month after majority of your examples)
It was around the same time the 4-4-2 chants from the away fans began.
So out of a sample size of 38 league games, that's it?
We will never win a trophy under his reign, for that alone we need to replace him at the end of the season. Cleared some deadwood, brought in some deadwood, spent hundreds of millions, stabilised our defence tho but dont think there's much more he's capable of.
He is a coward. You only have to watch our football to see that. He's absolutely shit scared of his teams taking any risks. The players play only the simplest passes, that have absolutely no risk attached. He's basically even admitted it. Didn't he call it twitchy bum or something like that?
Its the absolute epitome of cowardly football.
I'd still keep him until the end of the season mind you, unless things totally go pear shaped.
But at the end of the season, I would seriously consider our options.
The biggest defense for LVG around here seems to have become that LVG is building a good team for the next manager and thus should be given time to complete it, but in my view, shouldnt that next manager be given that opportunity a year early to build that team himself?
Just seen that he said he was considering subbing Martial, not Rooney, but the latter got injured and forced his hand.
There are just no words.
There are just no words.
To be fair Martial wasn't having that good of a game either.
Not as bad as Rooney of course
He wasn't, but at least he still resembled a footballer. Unlike our captain, who looked like he'd won a fan competition to play for United for a day.
he's a fraud and a coward. but not a spendthrift.
I just wish he'd f*ck off and we'd get a manager in with bollocks and who'd make the big decisions that need to be made.
I made that defence myself a good few times. But when you see players like Di Maria, Schweinsteiger, Rooney, Memphis, Martial and Darmian clearly regressing in front of your eyes, week by week, you start to reconsider.
Why do people think we will play any better next season? Lvg thinks that we're fine
Didn't say he couldn't be held accountable for their performances, my point was his focus on technical ability is likely to yield better results with the younger future generation than the current older players. There are other factors of his management that aren't currently working for the players but the technical focus is not the issue as you can see in players like Smalling that it has actually worked wonders with ironing out deficiencies in their game.
Not sure what those counter examples are supposed to show, other than the fact that we weren't superb and flawless in every game, which as it happens, I never claimed anyway.
Obviously not a fraud but guys like Trapatoni and Capello have had equally as good careers trophy wise, yet I'm sure no one on here would take either of them. Like LVG a lot of their best work happened ages ago.
Then he should be appointed youth team manager. Smalling always had the ability to be a great defender. That's why two of the biggest clubs in the country were willing to a pay a small fortune for a player who'd barely played for Fulham.
I'm starting to lose faith, my big worry though is that if we sack him we'll appoint Giggs and we still wont be rid of Rooney. If keeping LvG one more season means getting rid of Rooney in the summer I'd stay the course.
Can anyone really see him leaving the club at the end of the season if we make top 4?
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No, we won't, we haven't got a striker who can score us 20-30 goals a season. You need a capable striker to win the league.
His biggest mistake this season was think Rooney could play the out and out striking role, that backfired and we're now fvcked unless we sign a striker in January. Not only that, but we're also light of a fit midfielder, Schweinstieger and Carrick are fvcked. You can't pin your hopes on a pair of over the hill midfielders.
No, we won't, we haven't got a striker who can score us 20-30 goals a season. You need a capable striker to win the league.
His biggest mistake this season was think Rooney could play the out and out striking role, that backfired and we're now fvcked unless we sign a striker in January. Not only that, but we're also light of a fit midfielder, Schweinstieger and Carrick are fvcked. You can't pin your hopes on a pair of over the hill midfielders.
If we finish 3rd/4th, get knocked out of the group stage of the CL then fail to win the Europa or FA Cup, all while playing this kind of football, then serious question have to be asked, especially if Carlo and or Pep or available. I could see us getting rid for that, not confident in such a view though
this , because he played him in midf last season. he's off his nut.
i'd expect Rooney to be here until LVG retires next year. it will be a clean break for all concerned
Martial?
Depends how much points he'll be behind upcoming champions. It's his 2nd season so results are even more crucial for him than in previous campaign.
If he'll end 4th way behind but manage to win the cup then he may get away with it but I don't think public opinion and fans in general will be satisfied.
Big club, big expectations. Not too unfair of a deal to be honest.
Anybody else feel like we settled for a point?
His stubborness is killing him again.He has to accept that it's going really wrong with our football and Rooney situation.
What technical focus? By all accounts they do possession drills more or less no stop and there is no coaching of individuals
Stevie Wonder could see that we settled for a point.
Yes all season
It's hard to tell as we play the same no matter the situation, it's like an actor with only one facial expression.
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He was very heavily linked to the Spurs job before he eventually joined us wasn't he?
Part of me wishes he took that job instead.
Part of me wishes he took that job instead.