[amolbhatia50k]

We're can't string two meaningful passes together. In terms of quality of football, I can't think of many worse than us, and considering that, it's quite amazing how LVG just keeps on keeping the job. The only explanation for this mess is that Giggs is indeed the next manager and we want him to take over in a better situation.

 

[Gatti33]

 

[manufanatic]

He doesn't look like a defeated man at the interview though. Quite calm even. Doesn't look a man who is worried about his future.

Sometimes when you know your decision it makes you appear calm. I not trying to equate this to suicide but when someone plans his suicide and all of the checkpoints are met then sometimes people are calm before the final act. Maybe he realizes it's over.

 

[The red panther]

Squad and team are a mess, manager has to go and season is a write off. Plans need to be made about how to rebuild the club.

Very true and they should go further than who should be the next manchester united manager or even what we players we must sign in the summer.

The problems at this club are far more deep rooted than having a clueless manager or a squad that isn't good enough.

I can literally see us signing Guardiola in the summer and making a few big purchases to strenghten the team and a few years down the line situation will be the same as it is now. This club is a shambles and the real changes need to happen at the top level of the club with the board and the directors.

 

[Silverman]

I have a friend that support another team saying its not just LVG's fault. The players have no heart or passion. I disagree. They have no heart or passion because of LVG.

 

[marlowe78]

I am sure he was trying to match Koemens and beat him at his own game, if we had the players for that type of game or not.

Yea and we clearly didn't. Southampton have players like Mane who have the power to function as a wingback. One of our bigge

Very true and they should go further than who should be the next manchester united manager or even what we players we must sign in the summer.

The problems at this club are far more deep rooted than having a clueless manager or a squad that isn't good enough.

I can literally see us signing Guardiola in the summer and making a few big purchases to strenghten the team and a few years down the line situation will be the same as it is now. This club is a shambles and the real changes need to happen at the top level of the club with the board and the directors.

Completely agree but I ask how will this happen? I've thought all along that the Glazers are only here to keep their fangs embedded in the club and suck it dry. A complete cultural change is needed and I don't see any indication that they'll do anything, so long as they're bringing in profits.

 

[GeneralGattuso]

LVG seems scared of Koeman. Koeman certainly has his number, so easy!

 

[Esquire]

Sometimes when you know your decision it makes you appear calm. I not trying to equate this to suicide but when someone plans his suicide and all of the checkpoints are met then sometimes people are calm before the final act. Maybe he realizes it's over.

Maybe or not. The vibe he gave off when I was watching was that he wasn't worried. But who knows. Honestly I am a bit numb right now seeing this train wreck in slow motion of a season unfolding before my eyes. What's clear is that we are in real danger of becoming fecking Liverpool with bad management, inapt coaching, heartless players and underinvestment in player development.

 

[The red panther]

Yea and we clearly didn't. Southampton have players like Mane who have the power to function as a wingback. One of our bigge


Completely agree but I ask how will this happen? I've thought all along that the Glazers are only here to keep their fangs embedded in the club and suck it dry. A complete cultural change is needed and I don't see any indication that they'll do anything, so long as they're bringing in profits.

Only way I can see this happening is if either the Glazers start reforming the management of the club and start appointing new decisionmakers or if the glazers are set aside and that will only happen if someone buys the club from them.

 

[Will Singh]

To late to sack him now I recon, unless the club trusts Giggs to get us into the top 4.

I'm completely done with LVG, he needs to stick to basics (shoot at fecking goal)!

At this stage I'd take Mourinho but it would have to be within days other wise it's just to late in the season!

 

[sunama]

One shot on target again. One. Two shots on goal in 180 minutes of football.

2 shots on goal, in 180 minutes.
I think we had our purple patch in the first 2 weeks of January, during which time we played our best football.
We have now reverted back to our December form. We got lucky against LFC and scored from 1 attempt. But today, were not so lucky.

For those still defending LVG, how can you do that, when we are now reduced to 1 shot on target per game.
Even a team in the relegation zone, who manage 1 shot on target, per game, would see the manager eventually get sacked.

 

[Cina]

I went the game today. Spent a lot of money on it. I was furious when I got out, but I thought it's not the time to post. Let's at least watch all the highlights of the game.

Well here I am 24 seconds later and I'm still fuming. Never seen such a lazy and gutless United performance. They are awful. You could tell watching them they were awful, but today every single player we had looked awful. What's worse is they didn't even care.

Obviously I try and be as positive as I can but that is simply not good enough. Not good enough at all. If he goes now, he can't complain, because that was absolutely awful.

Oh.
My.
God.

 

[Esquire]

Very true and they should go further than who should be the next manchester united manager or even what we players we must sign in the summer.

The problems at this club are far more deep rooted than having a clueless manager or a squad that isn't good enough.

I can literally see us signing Guardiola in the summer and making a few big purchases to strenghten the team and a few years down the line situation will be the same as it is now. This club is a shambles and the real changes need to happen at the top level of the club with the board and the directors.

I really think Guardiola will not come to this mess. But agree with you on the rest, we need fundamental restructuring from top to bottom. Even the leeching Glazers would need to realise this to protect their investment.

 

[sunama]

I had a dream last night that United lost and they sacked van gaal yet I still put money on United to win 3-1 ...

What logic made you believe that we could score 3 goals in 1 game?
Even your dream told you that we'd lose!

 

[Winrar]

1 step forward, 2 steps backward

 

[KikiDaKats]

A new manager can change a lot of things, but he can't make them play quick enough to break down a well organized defence if the players can't pass accurately, have poor first touches, can't outturn anyone and can't cross. Every now and then they play at a high enough pace, but everytime it looks like they finally got it, they fall back into moving the ball around slowly. It must because they're not comfortable with moving the ball around at he high pace, because they don't have the technique. That's also visible if they do move the ball around at high pace, they hardly manage because they lack the real ability to do that and be solid.

A new manager can change it by changing the style to one that suits these players: Discard any ambition of modern football and a continental style, and just hoof it forward and rush.

This.

 

[Acquire Me]

To late to sack him now I recon, unless the club trusts Giggs to get us into the top 4.

I'm completely done with LVG, he needs to stick to basics (shoot at fecking goal)!

At this stage I'd take Mourinho but it would have to be within days other wise it's just to late in the season!

Why to late? Mourinho is a free agent. Giggs could possible do a better job. Sticking with LvG will probably not give us top 4.

 

[edcunited1878]

Southampton were the away side, how did he think they would play? Doesn't mean we had to play like an away side as well.

They were the away side, so what. LVG knew how they were going to come to play and countered it to no impact. Any type of flow to United's game was destroyed by going 3 at the back, but even more so by not matching the energy of Clasie throughout the midfield. Mata coming on created more space and forced Clasie to drop deep. But once Mane came off, United should have pushed up Lingard (or taken him off all together) and gone to a flat back four and switch to a 433 or 4411.

 

[Godfather]

A new manager can change a lot of things, but he can't make them play quick enough to break down a well organized defence if the players can't pass accurately, have poor first touches, can't outturn anyone and can't cross. Every now and then they play at a high enough pace, but everytime it looks like they finally got it, they fall back into moving the ball around slowly. It must because they're not comfortable with moving the ball around at he high pace, because they don't have the technique. That's also visible if they do move the ball around at high pace, they hardly manage because they lack the real ability to do that and be solid.

A new manager can change it by changing the style to one that suits these players: Discard any ambition of modern football and a continental style, and just hoof it forward and rush.

It's about 70-30 for me. it's 70% LvG's fault. The rest lies with the team. We have some deadwood and some pure averagness in the team that needs sorting out.

 

[Stack]

Im on the other side of the world so had to get up at 4am to watch the game. Fell asleep at about the 80th minute, just woke up now, its 7:20am to find out we lost??????????????

 

[Will Singh]

Why to late? Mourinho is a free agent. Giggs could possible do a better job. Sticking with LvG will probably not give us top 4.

I think it's risky at this stage as top 4 could be even harder if someone new came in!

Giggs for me is the only option if we do sack him as he knows the players. If we go for Mourinho then it has to be as early as our next game!

 

[Acquire Me]

I think it's risky at this stage as top 4 could be even harder if someone new came in!

Giggs for me is the only option if we do sack him as he knows the players. If we go for Mourinho then it has to be as early as our next game!

Mourinho knows most of our players. He knows the league. He knows how to win. I am sure he would make top 4. He could even do better imo.

 

[Mr Anderson]

Today was just utterly bizarre

1. The Disney tune played instead of Fanfare for Rocky
2. That formation was daft from the off. 3 a the back with Jesse and B-Jack as wingbacks, Rooney showing form in recent games is shafted out wide left. Total new shape and changes and it never bloody clicked.
4. Subbing off Felaini who played well, once Mata came on we still lumped the ball forward.
5. Louis seemed more worried about Southampton than trying to win the game, no player was warming up after McNair came on until the 81st minute. Louis had no belief or idea what to do.

The rest was just shit play. Blind was atrocious, And how Jesse lasted the 90 is beyond me, pathetic he was.

 

[Manny]

We are carrying far too many one dimensional players.

Fellaini plays because he's tall. Lingard because he's fast. Blind because well I'm not sure why. Darmian because well, there's no-one else.

Rory Delap made a PL career by being able to take a throw in. It's like our team is full of Rory Delaps.

Pretty much

Its right throughout the team and it has an effect on selections in other positions.

- Blind has to play because Smalling can't pass out from the back.
- Fellaini plays to provide the set piece heading ability Blind lacks
- Valencia plays to provide the pace that Mata lacks
- Mata plays to provide the creativity Rooney lacks
- Schneiderlin plays to provide the legs Carrick lacks
- Schweinsteiger plays to provide the midfield control Schneiderlin lacks

It's a whole different level of finding your CB, CM, CF partnerships that you are used to seeing, when players clearly have massive deficiencies in their game

 

[Will Singh]

Mourinho knows most of our players. He knows the league. He knows how to win. I am sure he would make top 4. He could even do better imo.

I'd welcome Mourinho but like I said it has to be soon before LVG fecks us up even more!

 

[kps88]

The Disney tune played instead of Fanfare for Rocky

Really? Which one?

 

[Dr. Funkenstein]

It's about 70-30 for me. it's 70% LvG's fault. The rest lies with the team. We have some deadwood and some pure averagness in the team that needs sorting out.

I think the manager is 100% responsible, he chose to play this style with this squad to win this title. But that doesn't mean a change of manager turns this squad into a decent one with required technical skills to play modern footbal, especially as the signed players are doing better than the players he inhereted.

 

[Acquire Me]

I'd welcome Mourinho but like I said it has to be soon before LVG fecks us up even more!

Yes, we cant wait.

 

[togg]

I went the game today. Spent a lot of money on it. I was furious when I got out, but I thought it's not the time to post. Let's at least watch all the highlights of the game.

Well here I am 24 seconds later and I'm still fuming. Never seen such a lazy and gutless United performance. They are awful. You could tell watching them they were awful, but today every single player we had looked awful. What's worse is they didn't even care.

Obviously I try and be as positive as I can but that is simply not good enough. Not good enough at all. If he goes now, he can't complain, because that was absolutely awful.

So ok Twig...where do you put it down to. I mean does it seem like the players have no faith in the manager? That they are trying to do what he wants but don't believe in it? I mean you remember watching the teams with Fergie, I certainly do but not in manchester anymore and they would batter and batter to the end even if they lost....which meant we actually went home ok because we had tried, but still pissed we had lost.

 

[Varun]

A new manager can change a lot of things, but he can't make them play quick enough to break down a well organized defence if the players can't pass accurately, have poor first touches, can't outturn anyone and can't cross. Every now and then they play at a high enough pace, but everytime it looks like they finally got it, they fall back into moving the ball around slowly. It must because they're not comfortable with moving the ball around at he high pace, because they don't have the technique. That's also visible if they do move the ball around at high pace, they hardly manage because they lack the real ability to do that and be solid.

A new manager can change it by changing the style to one that suits these players: Discard any ambition of modern football and a continental style, and just hoof it forward and rush.

Seeing West Ham play excellent football vs City just now should out such things to rest. Our players are definitely capable of playing better than the shit being dished out atm.

 

[Heinzesight]

Even in a primary school match the players and coach or teacher would see that if they had one shot on target in 90 mins of football something was seriously wrong.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

I think that we should keep LVG as manager. Not because I think we'll improve, or because I want us to maintain our reputation as a club with stability, and not even because I think he's funny in his interviews. It's because if he does somehow turn it around I can act all superior over all of the people who wanted him gone. So I guess you could say that my reason for wanting him to stay has nothing to do with the club and everything to do with my own need to be self righteous.

Hahaha, only kidding. Sack the bloke.

 

[Mr Anderson]

Really? Which one?

Actually might have been another movie opening theme tune credit, it was ridiculous. I stood there thinking well feck this shit

Porky Pig in next for Fred the Red, hopefully he shouts "that's all folks!" To that twat Louis

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I went the game today. Spent a lot of money on it. I was furious when I got out, but I thought it's not the time to post. Let's at least watch all the highlights of the game.

Well here I am 24 seconds later and I'm still fuming. Never seen such a lazy and gutless United performance. They are awful. You could tell watching them they were awful, but today every single player we had looked awful. What's worse is they didn't even care.

Obviously I try and be as positive as I can but that is simply not good enough. Not good enough at all. If he goes now, he can't complain, because that was absolutely awful.

Where is Twigginater and what have you done with him?

 

[Godfather]

I went the game today. Spent a lot of money on it. I was furious when I got out, but I thought it's not the time to post. Let's at least watch all the highlights of the game.

Well here I am 24 seconds later and I'm still fuming. Never seen such a lazy and gutless United performance. They are awful. You could tell watching them they were awful, but today every single player we had looked awful. What's worse is they didn't even care.

Obviously I try and be as positive as I can but that is simply not good enough. Not good enough at all. If he goes now, he can't complain, because that was absolutely awful.

First Paddy, now you? The state of this club

 

[DomesticTadpole]

First Paddy, now you? The state of this club

All hope is gone.

 

[Nathan]

The entire performance www woeful from all the player, defence, midfield upfront. How could we really have smalling playing upfront towards the end.

Just not sure about the team going forward under LVG

 

[Dr Fink]

After returning home from OT just now, I will sum up United in one word: unwatchable. I don't think I'm going to OT again this season until he's gone. I'm contemplating the renewal of my season ticket.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

The entire performance www woeful from all the player, defence, midfield upfront. How could we really have smalling playing upfront towards the end.

Just not sure about the team going forward under LVG

When a whole team plays this badly it is the tactics and manager. They don't believe in him for all they try to tow the company line and their confidence has gone. He should have built on the buzz from last week but has failed to do so.

 

[KikiDaKats]

We can blame the manager for his inability to coach or his tactics but..in my opinion 5 players did not come to the party today.
Rooney.. The problem when your goals are masked to hide your general performance. Could have done better with effort in the final third.
Fellaini.. He believes he is a cm, it's his responsibility in games to be one.
Morgan.. Never in control during the game, kept huffing and puffing but was unable to impose himself. Maybe increasing the pace at which he does things with the ball can help with that.
Lingard.. Played like a woosy against Liverpool and repeated it today. Had a clear run at the WB today but never tried to play.
Martial.. Might be starting to look tired or he just not comfortable having teammates in close proximity. Either way he has to start making runs to stretch defences and releasing the ball quicker into forward positions.