Official: Pellegrini to leave/ Pep to join Man City

Clichy, Zabaleta, Sagna and Kolorov as his fullbacks. All over 30 btw.

Toure, Delph, Fernandinho and Fernando as his CMs. You expect that lot to play tiki taka?

Aguero and Kompany injury prone.

Otamendi and Mangala rubbish on the ball.

People really expect City to dominate? They need 6-8 players to play the type of football Pep wants.
 
He'll win the league fairly easily next year because all the other clubs are a mess. I don't agree that he's the second coming of christ though. If we got our act together or Chelsea, he'd have a tough job on his hands.
 
They will back him with money too and he comes at a perfect time when he might get to replace quite a few players. He will definitely improve them and I cannot see past City for title in the next 3 years. We might steal one from them if we get Mourinho, which we obviously won't because we cannot possibly sack van Gaal after the famous Derby win.

Long term effect Guardiola's presence will have on the club and team will be even more significant than the short term success he will inevitably have. I can see them winning Champions League within the next 5 years.
 
The worst part is the lack of action from the club. We're often, infact have been for the best part of a decade, too happy to wait for things to sort themselves out rather than taking actual and effective action to sort the problems that we are facing. The current issue with LvG continuing and not being replaced with one of the four top class available managers in the last 3-4 months is just one of the many examples of this, starting from not replacing Ronaldo, having no plan for SAF's retirement, the state of midfield for years, I can go on and on.
 
Aldo said:
This sucks. :(

3/3 PL titles for City under him.
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You can't think this way.
He previously managed the team with the best player of all time.
He then took over the treble winners (arguably the best team in the World at the time).

MCFC do not have Messi and are not the best team in the World.
MCFC won't be unbeatable...much like when Klopp first joined LFC, some people thought he'd win the league immediately and be top of the league on Jan 1st....which isn't happening.
 
SteveJ said:
People laughed when I suggested

*drones on forever* See? City's unearned wealth has the potential to totally alter the future history of the top-level English game. Without that money (for Pep's salary, for massive transfer-spending etc), Guardiola - commonly regarded as the world's best manager - wouldn't be going there. Utterly unfair to us and other clubs.
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If owners like that didn't come in though then the status quo would largely stay exactly the same now. It's incredibly hard now to rise up without rich investors (even Leicester have been well funded) and the reality is we have a huge advantage in terms of our history in that we can whore ourselves to every two-bob sponsor. Of course Guardiola wouldn't have gone their if they didn't have the money and squad that they've been able to build in recent years but it's not like they're significantly wealthier than us. We've clearly got huge structural problems that have led us to a club run by Ed Woodward, a pretty mediocre squad and a manager that nearly everyone wants gone. If we'd run ourselves properly and looked like an attractive proposition, I believe Guardiola would have picked us as the more romantic club with greater tradition. It's not unfair, it's our own ineptitude that meant we gave up on getting him without seemingly ever being a serious contender.
 
RexHamilton said:
He'll win the league fairly easily next year because all the other clubs are a mess. I don't agree that he's the second coming of christ though. If we got our act together or Chelsea, he'd have a tough job on his hands.
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This. United and Chelsea playing the way they are and with Arsenal being Arsenal, City should be able to cruise through the league.
 
Shane88 said:
José, Pellegrini, Pochettino.

Anyone but Giggs.

Anyone.
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Indeed. I'm not overly bothered that Pep's going there (mainly because I made peace with the idea long ago) but we absolutely have to get the next appointment right. And there needs to be a next appointment, either now or at the end of the season. We cannot have another season of van Gaal because we're going nowhere fast.

It'd be borderline negligence to keep him on after the mess this season has turned out to be.
 
A motivated Jose Mourinho is a magnificent beast and it really should be a no brainer now. Sadly I am certain that United won't do it.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Don't worry lads. We have Giggsy. :wenger:
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:lol: Scary thing I can see that happening.

Btw, it's not simply that City have possibly the best manager in the world now. It's also that it makes a club that is very attractive right now reach really elite levels. And people talk about our standards falling - average manager, average players etc, the opposite is true for them, their standard keep rising. Their attack keeps getting closer to the best sides, their manager is now the best around, their academy facilities are getting rave reviews.
 
anyway lets hope Bayern and City get each other in the CL. Just to make things arkward for them
 
RORY65 said:
If owners like that didn't come in though then the status quo would largely stay exactly the same now. It's incredibly hard now to rise up without rich investors (even Leicester have been well funded) and the reality is we have a huge advantage in terms of our history in that we can whore ourselves to every two-bob sponsor. Of course Guardiola wouldn't have gone their if they didn't have the money and squad that they've been able to build in recent years but it's not like they're significantly wealthier than us. We've clearly got huge structural problems that have led us to a club run by Ed Woodward, a pretty mediocre squad and a manager that nearly everyone wants gone. If we'd run ourselves properly and looked like an attractive proposition, I believe Guardiola would have picked us as the more romantic club with greater tradition. It's not unfair, it's our own ineptitude that meant we gave up on getting him without seemingly ever being a serious contender.
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Oh, it is unfair. But then, it's Britain, where everything's for sale...even if one's wealth is stolen.
 
Baffling decision by City.

Surely a former player should have been given the job? Hopefully they at least have the decency to insist Guardiola employs Richard Dunne as his assistant.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
A motivated Jose Mourinho is a magnificent beast and it really should be a no brainer now. Sadly I am certain that United won't do it.
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This, Mourinho is a no-brainer now. The only suitable candidate left and we have forced ourselves in this situation. I really hope we have something sorted for the summer for Mou to come in and manage us although, as reddevil already claimed, we will most likely do nothing.
 
Just go for Jose and let him take on the challenge of defeating Pep. LVG/Giggs/LVG then Giggs, will just spend 3 years wondering what thing in the distance is, that is so much better.
 
Bojan11 said:
Clichy, Zabaleta, Sagna and Kolorov as his fullbacks. All over 30 btw.

Toure, Delph, Fernandinho and Fernando as his CMs. You expect that lot to play tiki taka?

Aguero and Kompany injury prone.

Otamendi and Mangala rubbish on the ball.

People really expect City to dominate? They need 6-8 players to play the type of football Pep wants.
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Agreed.

That City squad needs a lot of work. I don't think either of La Liga or the Bundesliga are as competitive as the Premier League either so it's certainly not guaranteed he'll succeed straight away.

It'll be interesting to see who Chelsea and United (assuming LVG gets the sack) have in charge come the start of next season.
 
I think most of us expected this so it's not a big story. What will be more telling is if United respond with as strong a move or not.
 
settembrini said:
Baffling decision by City.

Surely a former player should have been given the job? Hopefully they at least have the decency to insist Guardiola employs Richard Dunne as his assistant.
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Exactly, some club legend. Like uhm.

Is Steven Ireland still playing?
 
Bojan11 said:
Clichy, Zabaleta, Sagna and Kolorov as his fullbacks. All over 30 btw.

Toure, Delph, Fernandinho and Fernando as his CMs. You expect that lot to play tiki taka?

Aguero and Kompany injury prone.

Otamendi and Mangala rubbish on the ball.

People really expect City to dominate? They need 6-8 players to play the type of football Pep wants.
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Very good point. City need a revamp of sorts in key areas on the pitch. I expect them to spend like crazy this summer and get Pep everything he needs for the season ahead.

In stark contrast we'll spend on absolute rubbish and keep LVG or put Giggs in. The gulf will be massive by end of this summer unless we bring Jose in and back him to the hilt in terms of transfer money.

The longer we take to bring Jose in, the greater the advantage City will have.

I expect them to get the likes of Neymar in Summer 2017.
 
Bojan11 said:
Clichy, Zabaleta, Sagna and Kolorov as his fullbacks. All over 30 btw.

Toure, Delph, Fernandinho and Fernando as his CMs. You expect that lot to play tiki taka?

Aguero and Kompany injury prone.

Otamendi and Mangala rubbish on the ball.

People really expect City to dominate? They need 6-8 players to play the type of football Pep wants.
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Yes and I don't Pep will struggle to find the players he needs.
 
Bestie07 said:
Not just the money, they have shown proper planning in their spending as well. While we have basically thrown away a lot of our money on players who have barely proven the be improvements on the players we already had.
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You can say that again mate. They really have built the foundations for a long term City future.

If they don't win the CL in the next 3 years they are beyond saving you would have thought.
 
Irrational. said:
From Mark Hughes to Pep in 6 years. :eek:

The oil barons really have put their money where their mouth is.
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And in the meantime there are people here seriously suggesting we appoint Hughes. Really shows the respective trajectories of the two clubs at the moment.
 
Amethyst said:
Make no mistake, it's absolutely crucial that we get this summer right in terms of manager and recruitment of players. If we balls this up, we'll find ourselves in City's shadow for the foreseeable future and on the same path Liverpool took after their years of success.
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Spot on. We can't keep messing around. Pull your finger out Woody.
 
Big Ben Foster said:
And in the meantime there are people here seriously suggesting we appoint Hughes. Really shows the respective trajectories of the two clubs at the moment.
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I could never accept Hughes as United manager. He's become a very bitter man, ever since he managed those bitters.

Yep, he shouldn't even be an option.
 
Bojan11 said:
Clichy, Zabaleta, Sagna and Kolorov as his fullbacks. All over 30 btw.

Toure, Delph, Fernandinho and Fernando as his CMs. You expect that lot to play tiki taka?

Aguero and Kompany injury prone.

Otamendi and Mangala rubbish on the ball.

People really expect City to dominate? They need 6-8 players to play the type of football Pep wants.
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They could win the league with their squad as it is, and Pelligrini in charge. Pep is a far better manager and the one players most want to play under. It's not as hard you make it sound.
 
It makes the league far more interesting. I think people go slightly over the top with the reaction though. The guy is clearly a very good manager but I'd argue this is his hardest job so far. Whilst he has the resources it's a big turnaround needed at City.

They have a couple of very good young players in KDB, Sterling, Ihenahcho for example but the spine of the team is either ageing, injury prone or not good enough. The whole defence except Hart and Otamendi fall in to them 3 categories as does most the midfield. Whilst Guardiola might find the players its still a risk, not all of them will work out, some take time to settle etc it happens everywhere at every club.

They'd definitely be favourites for the league next year and you'd back them to win a Champions League if all goes to plan. It's the right decision by City I agree but I don't think it's all doom and gloom and everything is over. We do have to react though and I'd imagine it would be Mourinho come the end of the season.

Either way it makes for an interesting league next season especially with even more money becoming available.
 
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