The Mourhino Regime. Who survives, who doesnt?

Valencia would go I think - surely only lvg thinks he is a fullback (and does anybody see him as a serious option on the wing?)

Valencia is the perfect Mourinho player. Won't be going anywhere. Might even get another shot at RW.
 
If the rumours are correct that he'll embrace the traditions of the club then I think he will give good players - yet to fully convince - like Blind, Herrera, Mata, Rojo a proper chance. I think his last experience at Chelsea will have humbled him a bit and I can't see a gung ho approach happening.
 
Fellaini and Romero. For some reason I see him falling out with Rojo, I dunno why.
 
Feel like we'll get Gaitan, Sneijder, Cavani and Garay.
 
If the rumours are correct that he'll embrace the traditions of the club then I think he will give good players - yet to fully convince - like Blind, Herrera, Mata, Rojo a proper chance. I think his last experience at Chelsea will have humbled him a bit and I can't see a gung ho approach happening.
I get the feeling Rojo will really flourish under Mourinho, he's a good defender and if Mourinho's good at anything it's turning good defenders into great ones.
 
This thread was made about LVG, and one of the most mentioned names, the player LVG would absolutely hate, throw out of the club before he arrives- Fellaini, is still here.
 
Rooney will stay won't he?
 
Well he is tracking back and running a lot so I guess he is exactly what Mou would be looking for. He also wanted him at Chelsea so I think he really rates him.

Caf will like that if it happens :lol:
 
Martial, De Gea and Mata out. Ramires, Kalou and Hilario in.

Shame we can't just do a straight swap with your Chelsea. Ah well... :(
 
You'd probably have to ask Jorge Mendes that question.
 
Rooney will stay won't he?
Mourinho likes his centre forwards to physically bully opposition centrebacks so that the widemen and midfielders can get into the box. It's been his preferred system for years. Rooney would be brilliant at it.

He would have loved Welbeck, too. Mourinho strikers don't necessarily need to carry the team with their goals. They're there to facilitate attacks and be a thorn in the other side. Scoring goals is a bonus.

Drogba, Torres and Benzema all had low scoring seasons under him.
 
- Mata is packing his bags as we speak.

- Fellaini, Pereira and Wilson will likely be moved on at some point.

- Memphis and Herrera will have one year to prove themselves

- If we do not sign another defender, I think he'll stick with Blind at the back. If nothing else, Jose is pragmatic, can't see him disrupting a proven partnership to try and hamfist our other two average defenders into Blind place. (Rojo and Jones)
 
Mourinho will love Jones. He's exactly the kind of defender he'd go for, particularly if we switch to midfield 3. There are few better aggressive, one-on-one defenders out there.

Wilson has a chance as a goal scoring inside forward like Robben or Eto'o. He's not a Mourinho CF, though.
 
- Mata is packing his bags as we speak.

- Fellaini, Pereira and Wilson will likely be moved on at some point.

- Memphis and Herrera will have one year to prove themselves

- If we do not sign another defender, I think he'll stick with Blind at the back. If nothing else, Jose is pragmatic, can't see him disrupting a proven partnership to try and hamfist our other two average defenders into Blind place. (Rojo and Jones)

He'll sign Stones
 
Any players that are 'decent at a few things' out and players that are 'excellent at their job' remain.

Personally think out:
Herrera
Fellaini
Darmian

I think Jose likes to have physical players. On that basis I think Fellaini will stay.
I actually thought Fellaini would be cut very quickly in LVG's first year, but even LVG (who loves intelligent, technical players), kept him in the spine of our team.
 
Mourinho will love Jones. He's exactly the kind of defender he'd go for, particularly if we switch to midfield 3. There are few better aggressive, one-on-one defenders out there.

Phil Jones?
The guy who never plays?
If that's who you mean, I disagree.
Jose likes productive players....not players who never play.
 
I'm afraid the lazy assumption was from your side. Pereira & Januzaj just don't strike me as mourinho's type of players, it has nothing to do with their age.

Those 2 players barely get any game time, under LVG. And given LVG knows their skills/strengths better than any poster on this forum, I'd say those 2 players simply aren't good enough to be starters for our team.
And specifically Januzaj - this guy was a bench warmer for Dortmund. If he can't make it there, how is he going to get into our first team?
 
DDG
Darmian - Smalling - Stones - Shaw
Schneiderlin
Herrera - Schweinsteiger
Griezmann - Zlatan - Memphis

:drool:
 
Well he is tracking back and running a lot so I guess he is exactly what Mou would be looking for. He also wanted him at Chelsea so I think he really rates him.

He wanted Rooney at Chelsea a long time ago.
I think this was when Fergie was still here, when Rooney was very productive.
25 year old Rooney - yes.
31 year old Rooney - not sure.
 
He wanted Rooney at Chelsea a long time ago.
I think this was when Fergie was still here, when Rooney was very productive.
25 year old Rooney - yes.
31 year old Rooney - not sure.

Nah he wanted to lure him there when Moyes was our manager. He was 29 then admittedly but it certainly wasn't just during his peak that Mou was interested in him.
 
I think Jose likes to have physical players. On that basis I think Fellaini will stay.
I actually thought Fellaini would be cut very quickly in LVG's first year, but even LVG (who loves intelligent, technical players), kept him in the spine of our team.

Think it was more the case of - nobody wants Fellaini for even half the money we spent.
 
Why? Mourinho ignores players for only three reasons, not good enough, not suited to his plans or not commited enough. Personally I can't tell who will be in which category and I don't see how anyone could.
None are suited to his plans then, because his plans do not include youth involvement.
 
None are suited to his plans then, because his plans do not include youth involvement.

That's not true, Mourinho doesn't care about age, he cares about talent.
 
That's not true, Mourinho doesn't care about age, he cares about talent.
Yes, established young players who have already played matches at other sides - which is why Shaw and Martial will obviously be safe (not even he can refuse them) but he will not want to nurture Pereira, Wilson, Tuanzebe et al. regardless of their 'talent'.
 
Yes, established young players who have already played matches at other sides - which is why Shaw and Martial will obviously be safe (not even he can refuse them) but he will not want to nurture Pereira, Wilson, Tuanzebe et al. regardless of their 'talent'.

Who are those players that he had and refused to nurture?
 
Who are those players that he had and refused to nurture?
Have you seen the amount of youth talent Chelsea have on show? Charly Musonda, Loftus Cheek, Solanke, Boga, Christensen etc... They've all either been chucked out on loan or just been neglected. Then there's even De Bruyne and Lukaku.
 
Have you seen the amount of youth talent Chelsea have on show? Charly Musonda, Loftus Cheek, Solanke, Boga, Christensen etc... They've all either been chucked out on loan or just been neglected. Then there's even De Bruyne and Lukaku.

If you count De Bruyne and Lukaku against him why don't you count Benzema, Varane, Di Maria, Balotelli, Zouma, Robben, Johnson and many others for him, that's what I don't understand. As for the other players are they ready? I mean Pereira, Wilson, McNair aren't playing much and Keane, Thorpe or Pearson have been chucked out on loan or sold.

There is one thing I can say about Mourinho he rarily ignored talented players De Bruyne and Lukaku refused to fight for their place and decided to leave very soon, it's mainly their faults, like Pogba is mainly responsible for his United history.
 
If you count De Bruyne and Lukaku against him why don't you count Benzema, Varane, Di Maria, Balotelli, Zouma, Robben, Johnson and many others for him, that's what I don't understand. As for the other players are they ready? I mean Pereira, Wilson, McNair aren't playing much and Keane, Thorpe or Pearson have been chucked out on loan or sold.

There is one thing I can say about Mourinho he rarily ignored talented players De Bruyne and Lukaku refused to fight for their place and decided to leave very soon, it's mainly their faults, like Pogba is mainly responsible for his United history.
Oh, right. That's the excuse we're going to peddle. Not 'being ready'. How on earth can a youth player get 'ready' when he doesn't even get gametime?
And I didn't really want to count them against him, because I'm far more concerned about the youth talent within the club, not imported stars. Those you mention, a large percentage were pretty much 22-23 with a sizable chunk of game time under their belt. KDB and Lukaku show that even with the young established stars he can end up ignoring them. But again, I'm not really concerned with that too much. He does use imported talents when they're good enough, but it's clear he has no time for youth players.
 
Oh, right. That's the excuse we're going to peddle. Not 'being ready'. How on earth can a youth player get 'ready' when he doesn't even get gametime?
And I didn't really want to count them against him, because I'm far more concerned about the youth talent within the club, not imported stars. Those you mention, a large percentage were pretty much 22-23 with a sizable chunk of game time under their belt. KDB and Lukaku show that even with the young established stars he can end up ignoring them. But again, I'm not really concerned with that too much. He does use imported talents when they're good enough, but it's clear he has no time for youth players.

None of them where more than 21. And I'm not making excuses, I'm asking you a question, I don't know who is ready or not, I tend to trust managers or knowledgeable fans.

Edit: Varane(18), Robben(20), Johnson(19), Benzema(21), Balotelli(17-18), Zouma(19).
 
None of them where more than 21. And I'm not making excuses, I'm asking you a question, I don't know who is ready or not, I tend to trust managers or knowledgeable fans.

Edit: Varane(18), Robben(20), Johnson(19), Benzema(21), Balotelli(17-18), Zouma(19).
You're just not touching my point at all. I don't care about these imported stars, I care about his complete allergy to the particular clubs youth players. He only plays established youth talent, as proof;

Benzema - 133 appearances for Lyon.
Zouma - 74 for St. Ettiene.
Robben - 121 appearances.
Varane - 24 for Lens. The least, but it's still near enough a whole season, and it was clear he was an elite talent.
Balotelli - The only genuine youth talent who he used? I'm not sure.
Johnson - 35 appearances for two separate clubs.

If he can do more 'Balotelli's' here (which he really won't) then that's fine. I'm sure he'll add a couple of young established stars were he to join. Stones is most likely one, maybe Renato Sanches or Ruben Neves if they continue their form until the end of the season. But I'm concerned about the youth we have - Pereira, Gribbin, Wilson, Tuanzebe, Fosu-Mensah etc. etc. I really don't see any of them given a real shot under Mourinho, and the past supports me. They aren't alike your sample - with senior football under their belt at other clubs as established talents, they're youth players who will need to be nurtured and given their first team tries to prove themselves here.
 
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