The Mourhino Regime. Who survives, who doesnt?

Mata
Jones
Blind
Fellaini
Darmian
Romero
Rojo
Schweinsteiger

And I wouldnt care if he did get rid of any of those either
 
You're just not touching my point at all. I don't care about these imported stars, I care about his complete allergy to the particular clubs youth players. He only plays established youth talent, as proof;

Benzema - 133 appearances for Lyon.
Zouma - 74 for St. Ettiene.
Robben - 186 appearances.
Varane - 24 for Lens. The least, but it's still near enough a whole season, and it was clear he was an elite talent.
Balotelli - The only genuine youth talent who he used? I'm not sure.
Johnson - 25 appearances for two separate clubs.

If he can do more 'Balotelli's' here (which he really won't) then that's fine. I'm sure he'll add a couple of young established stars were he to join. Stones is most likely one, maybe Renato Sanches or Ruben Neves if they continue their form until the end of the season. But I'm concerned about the youth we have - Pereira, Gribbin, Wilson, Tuanzebe, Fosu-Mensah etc. etc. I really don't see any of them given a real shot under Mourinho, and the past supports me. They aren't alike your sample - with senior football under their belt at other clubs as established talents, they're youth players who will need to be nurtured and given their first team tries to prove themselves here.

And that's why I asked you to tell me who are those players that he should have brought from within the club, He did it with Santon, Balotelli, Nacho, Jesé, José Rodriguez and Morata. I really don't see who he missed and that's why I don't understand the accusation.

Edit: I only see Carvajal and that was pretty stupid to choose Arbeloa over him.
 
And that's why I asked you to tell me who are those players that he should have brought from within the club, He did it with Santon, Balotelli, Nacho, Jesé, José Rodriguez and Morata. I really don't see who he missed and that's why I don't understand the accusation.

Lukaku and KDB?
 
And that's why I asked you to tell me who are those players that he should have brought from within the club, He did it with Santon, Balotelli, Nacho, Jesé, José Rodriguez and Morata. I really don't see who he missed and that's why I don't understand the accusation.
And I already told you who he had at Chelsea. You're not listening or making more excuses.
 
So we'd set up presumably 4-2-3-1. Who would be our Matic, Makele type player? Schneiderlin still has a lot to prove. I could see Jose bringing someone else to cover. We'd also need a centre forward and Jose loves a strong physical type.
 
And I already told you who he had at Chelsea. You're not listening or making more excuses.

Excuses, discussing is making excuses? If you think that Chelsea's youngsters are ready then fair enough Mourinho is wank.
 
Excuses, discussing is making excuses? If you think that Chelsea's youngsters are ready then fair enough Mourinho is wank.
Your whole discussion to my key point is a paradox - how can young players prove to be 'ready' if they aren't given to opportunity to prove so? He is wank, but we didn't need a 10 post discussion to come to this conclusion.
 
So we'd set up presumably 4-2-3-1. Who would be our Matic, Makele type player? Schneiderlin still has a lot to prove. I could see Jose bringing someone else to cover. We'd also need a centre forward and Jose loves a strong physical type.

It could be someone like Krychowiak, Carvalho, Casemiro, Kondogbia, Weigl, Geis, Danilo, Kante, etc. I would like a CM like Neves.
Ibrahimovic for free is a good option as a forward, he also has a good relationship with Mourinho.
 
Your whole discussion to my key point is a paradox - how can young players prove to be 'ready' if they aren't given to opportunity to prove so? He is wank, but we didn't need a 10 post discussion to come to this conclusion.

Managers work with players during the entire week, that's how they know if they are ready or not. If the players aren't training at the right standard they are not going to play during the weekend.
 
Who are the top 5 players on Mendez books who are available this summer? I'd imagine we'd be singing a few of those .
 
Martial, Carrick, Herrera out

Benny McCarthy, Costinha, Maniche in
 
Ronaldo - Do not want
Di Maria - been there, done it.
James - Cannot see them selling
Diego Costa - Jose would not want him after his efforts.
Ruben Neves - Maybe

Neves would be a great buy IMO, fits with what we have done with Shaw and Martial.
 
Would anyone be that bothered if Mata left? Nifty player, would be remembered fondly, not the kind of consistent attacking player that is crucial in a title winning team.
I would. Love him. Great player especially when used correctly. Deserves a proper run to be able to judge properly. Apart from that, he's a great ambassador for the club and a great role model.
 
I would. Love him. Great player especially when used correctly. Deserves a proper run to be able to judge properly. Apart from that, he's a great ambassador for the club and a great role model.
Totally agree!
 
I think Mourinho will like Herrera. Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger are players he'd want in his team.

Not sure about Blind though. I don't think he'd play Blind as CB and most likely sign a CB. Mata is obvious one who could go.

With Herrera's goal scoring ability's, I could see mourinho trying to do what he done with lampard, giving him the freedom to attack. Herrera has allot of potential that has been clipped by VG, memphis and martial he could see doing very well
 
Our back 4 will get bigger, Darmian, Blind, Rojo and McNair will be out. He'll want a targetman, and a hard working winger for the right, Valencia will do if he prioratises elsewhere. Mata and Rooney will rotate the #10
 
Mata being sold by the same manager twice seems very likely. If only this was 2008, Mourinho would try to get Quaresma here.;)
 
Rojo is definitely gone. He's a shit man's David Luiz. Mcnair cannot defend so he's not got much of a future here regardless of the manager.
 
If Mourinho does indeed take over, i can see Mata leaving in the summer, which i have no problem with, then Memphis and Januzaj being in trouble once the season starts.
 
Our back 4 will get bigger, Darmian, Blind, Rojo and McNair will be out. He'll want a targetman, and a hard working winger for the right, Valencia will do if he prioratises elsewhere. Mata and Rooney will rotate the #10
Why would he get rid of Darmian? There's a lack of decent right backs out there as it is, and Darmian is a more defensive right back anyways so he'll suit Mourinho. And he can play on either flank.
 
Rojo
Blind
Darmian
Mata
Felliani
Young
Valencia
Carrick (retire)
 
Why would he get rid of Darmian? There's a lack of decent right backs out there as it is, and Darmian is a more defensive right back anyways so he'll suit Mourinho. And he can play on either flank.

Mourinho likes big players, he'll look at stats like if a player isn't x inches tall we'll concede y extra goals from set pieces. If a player is good enough he'll still use them, a rat like Cole was his left back for many years. Personally I like Darmian a lot

His first two buys will be a center back and a target man
 
Mourinho likes big players, he'll look at stats like if a player isn't x inches tall we'll concede y extra goals from set pieces. If a player is good enough he'll still use them, a rat like Cole was his left back for many years. Personally I like Darmian a lot

His first two buys will be a center back and a target man
Agree that he'll definitely buy a center back and a striker, that's basically a guarantee. Ibrahimovic and Stones are probably two very real targets as well. But Darmian isn't too different to Azpilicueta physically (and in terms of their play style), so I could see Mou liking him. Don't think he'd change too much in terms of the overall back 4 apart from just bringing in a center back to partner Smalling, the fullback group we have is really a Mourinho type group. Also he'll definitely be a right winger as he won't play Mata out there, and definitely won't settle with Lingard. Striker, right winger and a center back are basically guarantees if he becomes the manager, with Martial playing on the left I think in a similar role to Hazard last season or Ronaldo when Mou was at Madrid.
 
I don't think he'd get rid of Mata if i'm honest. We aren't exactly blessed with options upfront he'll stick with him initially.

Every heard of a transfer window. Mata will be replaced.
 
You're just not touching my point at all. I don't care about these imported stars, I care about his complete allergy to the particular clubs youth players. He only plays established youth talent, as proof;

Benzema - 133 appearances for Lyon.
Zouma - 74 for St. Ettiene.
Robben - 121 appearances.
Varane - 24 for Lens. The least, but it's still near enough a whole season, and it was clear he was an elite talent.
Balotelli - The only genuine youth talent who he used? I'm not sure.
Johnson - 25 appearances for two separate clubs.

If he can do more 'Balotelli's' here (which he really won't) then that's fine. I'm sure he'll add a couple of young established stars were he to join. Stones is most likely one, maybe Renato Sanches or Ruben Neves if they continue their form until the end of the season. But I'm concerned about the youth we have - Pereira, Gribbin, Wilson, Tuanzebe, Fosu-Mensah etc. etc. I really don't see any of them given a real shot under Mourinho, and the past supports me. They aren't alike your sample - with senior football under their belt at other clubs as established talents, they're youth players who will need to be nurtured and given their first team tries to prove themselves here.

How important is it though. We've seen 4 youth players brought through this season it's hardly been raves upon in here. Besides I've yet to see Mourinho stop the established he just hardly brings kids in the main team. Those already around like Lingard maybe flurish.. Like Lampard and Terry did.
 
Every heard of a transfer window. Mata will be replaced.

We need to add more attacking depth so taking out Mata simply increasing the players required by another one player. It's just adding to the headache and therefore imo we'll stick with Mata given the amount of players we probably still need.
 
We need to add more attacking depth so taking out Mata simply increasing the players required by another one player. It's just adding to the headache and therefore imo we'll stick with Mata given the amount of players we probably still need.

Sell Mata sign Griezmann(who he likes) and a right winger. Why would we possibly miss Mata if that happened.
 
How important is it though. We've seen 4 youth players brought through this season it's hardly been raves upon in here. Besides I've yet to see Mourinho stop the established he just hardly brings kids in the main team. Those already around like Lingard maybe flurish.. Like Lampard and Terry did.
Pretty important, I'd say. We've seen youth players brought through due to injuries and necessity, not through their ability, i.e, Pereira. In any case, Borthwick-Jackson who was brought in looks fantastic cover and will save us having to spend 20 odd million on a LB in his late twenties as cover, *cough Felipe Luis cough*.
 
Managers work with players during the entire week, that's how they know if they are ready or not. If the players aren't training at the right standard they are not going to play during the weekend.
Doesn't seem to run true for the LVG bashers, if LVG doesn't play youngsters it is because he is wank. With Jose, I think it pretty fair to suggest that he prefers to play with the finished product as he wants to be challenging for the title and other trophies. So he is less likely to take the risk of giving youngsters a platform to show their ability. Chelsea have had some really good youth players and young players they bought. I can't remember him giving them a platform at Chelsea to grow.
 
Pretty important, I'd say. We've seen youth players brought through due to injuries and necessity, not through their ability, i.e, Pereira. In any case, Borthwick-Jackson who was brought in looks fantastic cover and will save us having to spend 20 odd million on a LB in his late twenties as cover, *cough Felipe Luis cough*.

Exactly.. Injuries!! So why is it important then? We should always have a good youth structure regardless of the manager. But like people always say if they are good enough they will play. I'm yet to see a Chelsea youth player that was overlooked that turned out to be good enough.

Look forward to Igahlo being our 3rd choice striker though. Lol.