I watched it again last night and I agree. If it wasn't reminiscent of previous films it would be the best.
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I watched it again last night and I agree. If it wasn't reminiscent of previous films it would be the best.
For films that I know will be packed, I prefer going to the morning showing. The cinema is close to home so it's not too much of a bother, and it's usually more enjoyable. We can arrive a few minutes before the beginning, be sure to find seats and not be annoyed by crowds.
Anyway, Batman vs Marmaduke was a mess. There's a good film somewhere in there, but editing and trying to pack too much stuff in it ruined it. Actually, there's probably 2 decent 2 hour films in there, the first one installing the rivalry between Batboy and Supes properly, and the second more action packed, but I guess DC is too far behind Marvel and wanted to expedite things.
Anyway, there's a lot of good stuff in there: it looks good, the cast is overall very good (Eisenhower overacts like his life depends on it, but that's ok, his character is shit though), there's some enjoyable moments... but it's really hard to completely immerse yourself in the experience with the shoddy editing and the constant ellipses, which is a shame. Not the worse 2h30 ever, but it's a shame there's so many 'wait, why is this happening?' moments that take you out of the flow.
Ah well.
No, it really wasn't. Really contrived and full of annoying super coincidences. Space also feels extra small, and Ford and Fisher clearly phoned it in. I don't mind new people though, but McGregor, Neeson and even Jackson felt more natural in their roles. Yeah, lets forget Anakin for a bit.
And it really isn't much exciting. Both Menace and Clones had scenes that trump anything in this one, like Duel of the Fates, or McGregor taking on Fett Senior.
I hope it's just JJ Abrams that is the problem, I disliked Star Trek and detested the second part of that.
Surprised by this opinion. Thought it was up with empire and rotj. Not an advert for toys like 1 2 and 3 with some great scenes. Slow burner but its the first in a trilogy. Like ANH.
For me 6 > 7 > 5 > 4 > 3 > 1 > 2
Not sure I would ever call it a slow burner, save for some Rey on nu-Tatooine scenes, it's actually moving at frantic pace. Some good looking scenes, it sure is pretty movie, but no great scene.
Agreed. Nothing really stands out for me after a few months from when I watched it.
Just re-watched Oldboy. Not only that it is the best non-Hollywoodian movie I have ever seen, but it is one of the most artistic movies ever, while at the same time managing to be as dark as a movie can be.
And it has this beauty as main soundtrack! 10/10 stands, same as last time I watched it.
And it has this beauty as main soundtrack! 10/10 stands, same as last time I watched it.
It felt a bit drawn out when she was learning the force tbf.
Old Boy only works if you're willing to buy into the Scott Tenorman Must Die approach to revenge fantasy. Otherwise the last quarter descends into farce. I actually felt the otherwise completely redundant sequel did a fairly good job of cleaning up the ending, even if it failed to match the original in any other aspect.
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She didn't learn the force. She just put some cheats and became from noob to pro instantly.
What's that?
It is very well made, it has fantastic acting, great soundtracks, it is very dark while at the same time very entertaining. The first time I watched I found the story incredible, now a bit less knowing the twist(s).
Still, it is a top 10 movie for me.
When did this happen?
Was expecting a not sure if serious reply.The idea that a minor indiscretion deserves an irrationally disproportionate response. From the titular South Park ep where Cartman tricks a boy that made fun of him into eating his own parents...(it's also where the "let me taste your tears" meme comes from)
I like Old Boy fwiw, and think it's a brilliantly made film, but the entire thing (specifically the "darkest" bits) rely on this Cartman-esque cartoon reasoning, which just never flew for me in a film that serious. Even Spike Lee's faithfully uninspired remake realised it needed some tweaking.
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Ah, South Park. Have watched the episode but didn't remember the title.
Well, while Dae-So did a minor indiscretion, ultimately it resulted with a death, so not entirely something small.
The other two movies in the same 'trilogy' are different in that aspect. Especially 'Sympathy for Lady Vengeance'.
Point Break (2015)
An unnecessary remake of the 1991 original. A huge screen advert of Jack Wolfskin clobber wearing mountain men covering every branch of extreme sport under the sun and the we're lead to believe they are experts at everything including the FBI agent Utah. A gang of not so childhood friends but global group of Robin hood adrenaline junkies with hilariously badly drawn shit tattoos chasing spiritual enlightenment because a Japanese eco-warrior says so. They choose to ' liberate money and the earths natural resources' before abandoning their ethos and turn into copkillers in some of the obvious robberies ever when they decide they need steal money for real in the end. Some familiar scenes but poorly done, lead actors didn't make the Bohdi & Utah bond as real as Swayze & Reeves did.
5/10
An unnecessary remake of the 1991 original. A huge screen advert of Jack Wolfskin clobber wearing mountain men covering every branch of extreme sport under the sun and the we're lead to believe they are experts at everything including the FBI agent Utah. A gang of not so childhood friends but global group of Robin hood adrenaline junkies with hilariously badly drawn shit tattoos chasing spiritual enlightenment because a Japanese eco-warrior says so. They choose to ' liberate money and the earths natural resources' before abandoning their ethos and turn into copkillers in some of the obvious robberies ever when they decide they need steal money for real in the end. Some familiar scenes but poorly done, lead actors didn't make the Bohdi & Utah bond as real as Swayze & Reeves did.
5/10
Bar the flying scene and the surfing scene, it was a ridiculously shit movie.
Yes, but the 'death' wasn't sufficiently enough his fault to warrant the elaborate, expensive, multifaceted OTT plan, hatched against him by an unfeasibly wealthy and influential single minded mentalist with a lot of time to kill. His part in it wasn't the real cause either, and was more accidental than malicious. And not "absent mindedly threw a brick off a bridge and hit someone" accidental. "Inadvertently saw a thing" accidental. If you're willing to go with it, fine, but if you're not, the whole thing falls down.
Lady Vengeance is great, and definitely my favorite of the trilogy. In part because her motivation is always understandable, however dark and malicious it gets. It's actually criminally under-appreciated considering how infamous it's predecessor is.
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50 documentaries you need to see
Ten of the best nonfiction film-makers today choose their own favourites, from serial killer stories and studies in the horrors of war to meta pranks:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...es-alex-gibney-joshua-oppenheimer-james-marsh
Ten of the best nonfiction film-makers today choose their own favourites, from serial killer stories and studies in the horrors of war to meta pranks:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...es-alex-gibney-joshua-oppenheimer-james-marsh
I loved it, thought the ending was a perfect fit to the film considering the world it's set in and everything building upto that point. It's a different tone from the preceding hour or so admittedly but it works when you consider that everything said and every item in shot is there for a reason. There's nothing in it that's not foreshadowed.
Watched High Rise earlier in the week, great adaptation of an excellent book. An absolutely bananas satire of consumption, society and class.
Saw the trailer for High Rise before Batman vs. Superman yesterday, looked very interesting with a good cast. Good to read a first positive review of it!
Saw 3 films over the weekend.
Sicario
Decent cartel thriller. Enjoyed it but wanted much more of it. Would work well as a tv series so it could've been fleshed out a bit.
6/11
The good dinosaur
Under par Pixar fair, starts off boring, gets better towards the middle, shits out again towards the end. My 4 year old enjoyed it.
4/9
The Revenant
Hobo's and injuns dark thriller. A down on his luck homeless dude goes on a road trip to try and improve his fortunes.
It's alright, thought Hardy was better in it than DiCaprio.
7/11.4
Sicario
Decent cartel thriller. Enjoyed it but wanted much more of it. Would work well as a tv series so it could've been fleshed out a bit.
6/11
The good dinosaur
Under par Pixar fair, starts off boring, gets better towards the middle, shits out again towards the end. My 4 year old enjoyed it.
4/9
The Revenant
Hobo's and injuns dark thriller. A down on his luck homeless dude goes on a road trip to try and improve his fortunes.
it doesnt improve
7/11.4
Interesting list - no particular continental bias and certainly not just a re-hash of the usual critics' lists (e.g. this one from the BFI at Christmas).
I watched Streetwise this morning and it is beautifully intimate and ultimately heartbreaking. Never heard of it before. Likewise for about 20 other documentaries there. This one sounds brilliant:
I've never thought of it a 'serious' film, in terms of the story at least. Of course it's serious film-making but the plot etc. is hardly realistic or supposed to be. I mean take the scene where he's fighting all those guys in the corridor for example, it's like something out of a videogame. If it wasn't so incredibly well made these kind of scenes would seem ridiculous but they just end up just adding to the unique style of the film. I like the over the top revenge story and feel it fits perfectly. It's all so operatic and I love it.
I see it that way too (not thinking of it as serious). I see it as a sort of 'slapstick realism' (although I'm probably using the wrong term for it) and because I'm framing it that way I suppose the suspension of disbelief becomes a bit easier.
I viewed Breaking Bad with a similar mind-set too, so all the cartoonish stuff didn't annoy me like it did for some of my mates.
Close Up, Hoop Dreams, Night and Fog, Gimme Shelter, Man with a Movie Camera <3
Yep. Very Scott Tenorman Must Die.
I couldn't buy into the whole over the top revenge thing.
Star Wars 7 - Overall decent entertainment, the first hour was pretty good but then the pacing just spiralled out of control with lots of contrivances. I thought the actors did well considering the script was just excruciating at times.
The whole starkiller thing and it's weak spot that no one thought to bother protecting much was lame and rehashed, the cartoony and hammy nazis and LOTR villain too. Don't get me started on R2D2 just suddenly deciding to wake up at a convenient time.
Is 10 Cloverfield a horror film? Or is it all about the monster again?
More like a horror film set within a "monsters attack" scenario.
It's a psychological thriller about domestic abuse haha
The Hunger Games Mockingjay Part 2.
To be honest I was not overly impressed , it was a decent ending to the series of films, but I thought it could've been better, I just wanted a good action film and it failed, Miserably.
Lawrence was OK, she had a few god scenes but not many. The others did their job.
4.5/10
To be honest I was not overly impressed , it was a decent ending to the series of films, but I thought it could've been better, I just wanted a good action film and it failed, Miserably.
Lawrence was OK, she had a few god scenes but not many. The others did their job.
4.5/10
Mississippi Grind - Look, at this point I'd watch Ben Mendolsohn read the phone book, but this left me cold. I didn't much care for Ryan Fleck's previous film, Half Nelson, other than the career best work Ryan Gosling gave in it. Ryan Reynolds (fecking Ryans man) is expectedly irritating in support.
The Forest.
WTF have a just watched, even the parts meant to scare you did nothing.
Is it too much to ask that they make a horror film that is actually scary !!!
ZERO
WTF have a just watched, even the parts meant to scare you did nothing.
Is it too much to ask that they make a horror film that is actually scary !!!
ZERO
Agree with this, it was better than a lot of horror films I have watched.
Batman vs. Superman
Wasn't as bad as the critics are making out but it wasn't good either. The first half is a complete shambles and the film overall felt overly long whilst rushed at the same time. Ben Affleck was brilliant and some good fight scenes but overall, it was a mess 6/10
The Veil
Many years after a cult mass suicide, the lone survivor (who was a young girl at the time) returns to the scene of the crime for the first time with a documentary crew, then other-worldly shit goes down. It stars Jessica Alba and Thomas Jane, both actors that I quite enjoy watching. The film had an interesting premise but pretty low on the scares and the acting was quite hit and miss 5/10
The Hateful Eight
I have been put off watching this film by some of the hate it received and didn't want to spend nearly 3 hours watching a bad film but decided to finally see it as I had a few hours spare. What the feck were people talking about? I LOVED it. The dialogue was on point, the atmosphere was brilliant. Great cinematography as usual, good score, good performances, gruesome violence... it had everything I love about Tarantino's work. Yes, it was a bit on the long side but the film just felt like a ticking bomb, ready to explode at any moment... I love these types of tense movies. Tarantino is for me a great director of our times and will be appreciated more in the future than he is currently 9/10
Star Wars Episode 7
So a bit late to the party here. I have seen all previous Star Wars and thought the original 3 were quite good but Episodes 1-3 were absolute garbage. This film fell somewhere in between. It was a good adventure story and nice to see some of the old cast back but there were a few things that really ruined the film for me. The character Ray was the worst. As a character she was all over the place and her acting was as flat as a Coke in the desert. Also, I liked Kylo Ren until they showed his face... then he just became an emo nonce. Fin however was a great addition to the film 7/10
10 Cloverfield Lane
Wow, what a film. Really intense and claustrophobic horror/thriller with superb performances. Really liked how the story was revealed and the film had you constantly guessing and then second-guessing yourself. Some really clever use of foreshadowing in the movie and it had me genuinely intrigued for it's entire runtime. But the ending...
All in all, I think it was a really good movie and one horror and non-horror people should seek out 8.5/10
Wasn't as bad as the critics are making out but it wasn't good either. The first half is a complete shambles and the film overall felt overly long whilst rushed at the same time. Ben Affleck was brilliant and some good fight scenes but overall, it was a mess 6/10
The Veil
Many years after a cult mass suicide, the lone survivor (who was a young girl at the time) returns to the scene of the crime for the first time with a documentary crew, then other-worldly shit goes down. It stars Jessica Alba and Thomas Jane, both actors that I quite enjoy watching. The film had an interesting premise but pretty low on the scares and the acting was quite hit and miss 5/10
The Hateful Eight
I have been put off watching this film by some of the hate it received and didn't want to spend nearly 3 hours watching a bad film but decided to finally see it as I had a few hours spare. What the feck were people talking about? I LOVED it. The dialogue was on point, the atmosphere was brilliant. Great cinematography as usual, good score, good performances, gruesome violence... it had everything I love about Tarantino's work. Yes, it was a bit on the long side but the film just felt like a ticking bomb, ready to explode at any moment... I love these types of tense movies. Tarantino is for me a great director of our times and will be appreciated more in the future than he is currently 9/10
Star Wars Episode 7
So a bit late to the party here. I have seen all previous Star Wars and thought the original 3 were quite good but Episodes 1-3 were absolute garbage. This film fell somewhere in between. It was a good adventure story and nice to see some of the old cast back but there were a few things that really ruined the film for me. The character Ray was the worst. As a character she was all over the place and her acting was as flat as a Coke in the desert. Also, I liked Kylo Ren until they showed his face... then he just became an emo nonce. Fin however was a great addition to the film 7/10
10 Cloverfield Lane
Wow, what a film. Really intense and claustrophobic horror/thriller with superb performances. Really liked how the story was revealed and the film had you constantly guessing and then second-guessing yourself. Some really clever use of foreshadowing in the movie and it had me genuinely intrigued for it's entire runtime. But the ending...
It felt very tacked on to turn the movie into a franchise but I can see why they did it. Some casual fans would love this sort of thing and it opens up the possibility of more dollars for the studio. I didn't love the direction they went in with the ending but didn't absolutely hate it, it just felt awkward.
All in all, I think it was a really good movie and one horror and non-horror people should seek out 8.5/10
That's funny you should say that, I think the exact opposite. Except for a few of his best films, most of his stuff won't age that well and his legacy as a filmmaker won't be that impressive, imo. If anything, his stock is very high as it is.
I guess it's a preference thing.
I absolutely loved the shit out of Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction (one of my all time favourite films), Inglorious Basterds, Kill Bill 1&2, Django Unchained and Hateful Eight.
I haven't seen Jackie Brown and thought Death Proof was garbage.
Yeah but you said 'appreciated more in the future than he is currently'. He's a very well liked director I find, Hateful Eight got a bit of flak but not as much as it actually deserved I feel (I know you don't agree going by your review) as there's a lot of love for him, both from critics and viewers. A lot of the films you list are hugely appreciated, Pulp Fiction is a lot of people's favourite film. I don't see how he'll be 'more appreciated' in the future, that's all.
Oh I see your point. I think it's more from people I know personally who can't stand him as a person and therefore I think it clouds their judgement on him as a director. I also read many people bizarrely cheering for the fact that Hateful Eight got some bad press and the whole cinema/Disney/Star Wars fiasco. Just went through his films on Metacritic, and most of them seems to be in the 60-70 range... I think they should be higher.
I think Kill Bill 1 & 2 are dreadful (2 more so then 1), and I've not seen Planet Terror... but I've enjoyed everything else he's done to varying degrees - though I do find most of his films (bar Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction - which are his best work) have issues. Like, off the top of my head, Django is an overly long film for no apparent reason.