Please no. Rooney cannot escape death or old age. He needs to be replaced or be rotation. I struggle to remember many moments of quality that he has produced in the premier league. I'm thinking that long pass to RVP vs Newcastle back in 2014.
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It's not hard to get. His goals return in Prem football, show he's better suited to a style of football where there is more space in the opposition defensive third. Hence he's scored his most goals per min at WBA and his second most this season, when Everton have had less possession and the 4th lowest in the league in the opposition 3rd.
He'll be having nightmares tonight, knowing he'll be up against Smalling tomorrow.
That's my view. I was only a lurker on the caf at the time but I was desperate for United to accept Chelsea's offer for Rooney during the Moyes season. There was no question we had to suffer a 1-2 year Siberian winter but for me there was no point in keeping a waning Rooney even back then.
But Rooney got that fat contract -- three years left after this season, I think -- from Moyes which makes him IMHO unsellable to another European club. So, Rooney either nobly retires, but that's not going to happen. Or Beckham gets the Miami franchise going, but that's far off in the horizon. Or Wayne agrees to go to China, but I don't see that happening before WC 18. My desperate hope being that what if, after all this time, Rooney just needed a long rest and having gotten that rest has an Indian summer in him? He's only 30 now and it's not unheard of even for striker to produce something when he's 31 or 32.
Not quite as he has a higher total goal tally each season, so I don't know why the premier league is the only thing affected by this "formula". My take is at West brom he had no Thursday night football = good premier league return. 1st season at Everton, no Thursday night football = good premier league return. Everton plus Europa League football (the fabled destroyer of a premier league campaign and player form) = low premier league return. This season no Thursday night football + maturity and natural progression = another good premier league return
That's because that's the conclusion you want to reach! Cup football is different to league football, hence the saying "it's like a cup tie." European football is different again. Let's face it, not matter what I say, you aren't going to change your opinion. Ultimately, by far his best goal rate in the Prem, came when he was just 20 years old and playing for a team that averaged just 46% possession. He was also only averaging only 2.8 shots per game, instead of 3.4 shots per game this season. So he was more clinical back then. It's pretty hard to argue his finishing was more clinical because he wasn't playing European football! I'd have thought it was because the types of chances he was getting were better suited to his attributes. Unless his finishing has gone backwards in the last 3 years. His goals at WBA will probably have come from balls played into the box or counter attacks. That's perfect for him. That's when he's at his best.
Scored his 24th league goal tonight - 3 more than last season - to move 2 goals clear of Vardy in the Golden Boot race.
He's still 4 goals shy of his 31 in all competitions from last season, but could still reach that with 4 games to go.
He's still 4 goals shy of his 31 in all competitions from last season, but could still reach that with 4 games to go.
Some people were questioning if he wasn't just a flash in the pan last season. He's shown that he's the real deal. You could make a case for him being the best young striker in Europe atm.
He started slow this season. I'm delighted for the lad though, he's clearly set for a wonderful career. His dad is from Galway/Mayo originally, so I'm gutted we couldn't get him to play for Ireland just before he blew up.
Didn't he not score in his first 10 odd league games this season?
5 or 6, he didn't score until they played City.
I think it was 1 in his first 9, 23 in his last 25.
Kane was really late back for pre-season as he was with the U21's in the Euros. He basically did his pre-season during the early weeks and he looked really heavy legged.
Had a fiver on him to be top scorer at Euro 2016.
Hoping he's not one of those typical great for their club but incredibly meh for the national team guys like every decent player for the last however many years. An in form Kane, vardy, alli, dier, smalling, hart and sturridge is the start of a good team, even if we are a bit top heavy for once.
It's clear that this guy is a two season wonder.
He is progressing rapidly into a top class, all-round No9, he deserves to be starting for England at the Euros, no question. Also appears to be a very down-to-earth genuine guy who has worked his ass off to get where he is and will keep doing so.
Excellent player. However, the Guardian is running an article saying he's the best English striker since Shearer. I don't think he's at the level Wayne Rooney reached from 2009-2012. That being said, he's certainly on the right path.
kane is england's best finisher since shearer no doubt.
rooney is the best striker over the last 10-15 years simply because he burst into the scene at a very young age and lack of top english forward since. judging from the way kane is doing now though, he will end up as england's all time top scorer before he reaches 30.
That's true, but even in those early season games when he wasn't scoring much (or at all) and a lot of people started jumping on the 'see he can't replicate last season's form' band wagon, I thought his overall play was still very good and he was making himself useful for his team partners. It's actually during that phase that I was really convinced by him because he was showing that even when not scoring he was a good player to have on the pitch (which is essential for me).
I was incredibly wrong about Kane, I was certain when he burst onto the scene that he'd be shit (I'm actually convinced you can find some of my posts about him when he came through with exactly those words), but he's shown he's a top class player. I really hope he goes on to have a good career, there's a lot about him I like a lot: playing style but overall attitude as well. Comes across as a decent bloke.
With him and Alli in your ranks, you're very lucky, nothing better than to see young English players making it imo.
Nah, he was just unlucky. Spurs started the season focussing if defense so they weren't using their fullbacks much offensively. Eriksen was slow to find form and Kane himself was playing well, his usual build up and linkup play just a bit unfortunate infront of goal. Kept hitting the post, narrowly missing or finding a keeper in form. He didnt look tired though imo. Just had a brief spell of the football gods not approving of his shooting skills.
No denying Rooneys talent, but Kanes hit 20 PL goals in back to back seasons. Rooney has only ever managed 20+ goals twice in his career.
The OP of this thread looks a bit silly now.
The whole first page does - 'Spurs suck', 'Dier is shit', ...
But then again, at that time 90% of the Caf was convinced City were going to walk the league like Chelsea did last season
Virtually everyone in the country thought that.The whole first page does - 'Spurs suck', 'Dier is shit', ...
But then again, at that time 90% of the Caf was convinced City were going to walk the league like Chelsea did last season
OP was created when he was in his goal scoring drought though.
Second season running with a great scoring record, fair fecks to him, defo not 1 season wonder.
Probably would have if Kompany, Aguero and De Bruyne stayed fit.The whole first page does - 'Spurs suck', 'Dier is shit', ...
But then again, at that time 90% of the Caf was convinced City were going to walk the league like Chelsea did last season
True. I just don't think he's at the level Rooney hit from 2009 to 2012 (particularly the 2009-10 season.)
The whole first page does - 'Spurs suck', 'Dier is shit', ...
But then again, at that time 90% of the Caf was convinced City were going to walk the league like Chelsea did last season
Here's a few good ones:
@Sarni "I made a bet with a friend ... that Tottenham will never finish ahead of Arsenal in the next 25 years ... "
@Snake Plissken: "He's been crap, bottom line" and "Kane ... is not anywhere near the level your blinkered delusions have lead you to believe he's at"
@Sphaero: "... Look at their offensive midfield, they have basically only one creative outlet there ... Kane is right now one of the smallest problems of Tottenham. When I watch them, I mostly see a striker being isolated from the rest of his team and being left to starve.
@prarek: "... Spurs are pretty shit at creating chances. Last season Kane did extremely well to get that many goals but he won't hit that figure again, not with this support behind him."
@Kostur: "... team looks like a pile of shit and plays like one"
If either Spurs or Leicester were to win the title.. would that be the first time in ages where an 'English' star forward was the main man and the guy who drove the team to the title.
I can't remember Rooney ever being the main man in any of our title triumphs..
I can't remember Rooney ever being the main man in any of our title triumphs..
Lampard?
Yeah I was thinking Lampard but Chelsea were a team full of stars.. i.e. Drogba, Terry etc and Lampard as good as he was, I don't see him being that star player like Kane is for this Spurs side or the way Vardy has dominated for Leicester.
Vardy's initial goal streak and his recent goals during the pressure games likewise with Kane is pretty exceptional.
Rooney was on par with Ronaldo during 2006/2007.
He was great that year but I still think he was a supporting player.
During the first half of the 2006–07 season, Rooney endured a ten-game scoreless streak before scoring a hat-trick against Bolton Wanderer.
For a third of the season he was non-existent and his goals came against Bolton, Watford, Bolton again, Pre-Arab citeh and Fulham. He barely scored any goals in the more competitive matches.
He was more dangerous in Europe and in the FA cup.
On goals scored maybe - but Ronaldo was being touted as (and was imo) the best player in the world. Should have won the Ballon D'Or.
Rooney was just as big a talent as both Ronaldo and Messi in 2007 before letting himself go. I dislike Rooney more than most people, but there is no denying the talent he once was. He could have become an elite footballer had he applied himself. He didn't. Life goes on.
Kaká deserved his award. Ronaldo ran him close.
Drogba wasn't really a 'star' till his third season. Lampard was their top scorer in their first two title wins.
Seriously, you are probably the only user on here who can turn a post defending one of your players into a display of your own smugness. What exactly is wrong with that post? You hardly had a convincing season start. By the time I made the post, you lost the dire affair against United, played one hell of a borefest against Everton (0:0), drew vs. Leicester (who by that time did not pick up their momentum) and Stoke and had a pretty unconvincing late goal win vs. Sunderland. Kane WAS clearly struggling (evident by the fact that it was not until two weeks after my post that he scored his first league goal), being left on his own most of the time and Eriksen was either poor or injured at the start of the season.
Of course in hindsight, the latter did not turn out to be your only creative midfielder as Alli underwent a huge development jump in that season, but at the point of time of the post (day of the Sunderland game), the boy had exactly one start (that game) and his perfomances up till then were not that good that you could have predicted the season performance out of him. His talent was evident, but such a season at this age is still rare and thus hard to predict no matter how talented the player is.