Chelsea away as well. Had a complete brainfart and cost us the three points. One of the most idiotic goals we conceded last season.
Sky Sources : Blind and Mata set to leave this summer.
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Chelsea away as well. Had a complete brainfart and cost us the three points. One of the most idiotic goals we conceded last season.
Do you think so lads? He's a good player, an important kind of player to have in the squad. I don't think saying that is overrating him.
Would be a shame for Blind but Mata can have no complaints, one of the worst signings ever.
Hard to say where he would play but the fact that Barca allegedly want him should put to bed any questions about his quality.
Yeah. Not like they've ever made bad signings or anything.
Agreed, I understand the idea of having a ball playing cb under lvg tactics as they spend a lot of time with the ball. Under Jose i'm hoping our actual midfield and strikers will have the majority of the ball
Far less likely than internet experts on a football forum being full of shit about a player.
I'm certain he'd be better in midfield than Carrick. I'm not sure what he lacks that Carrick has. Blind is quicker with the ball at his feet, no problem turning away from attacker whilst Carrick seemed to lose the ball once per game that way.
Might as well shut down the forum then as none of us know better than professional scouts, coaches and managers.
It's also possible he would do well at Barcelona but that wouldn't mean it was a mistake letting him go either. Sometimes players aren't able to have the same impact at a particular club or league, like Forlan.
It was mostly 3-5-2 with Smalling and Evans/Jones on either side of Carrick. We looked hopeless in that 1 game against Everton where he wasn't fully fit and still had to play because of lack of options.
It's not right to say at all that blind never defended. He handled big strikers like Kane Gestede benteke and all comfortably in the first half of the season after all of them tried to exploit the weaklink.
Wolfsburg away he was the better of our defenders. Smalling was at fault for their first goal, failing to win a header off a set piece iirc. Arsenal away?. None of the goals were blinds or Smalling's fault and even if we had played Bobby Moore instead of blog we would still have lost that game as both darmian and young were fully exploited that day by Walcott and Sanchez . Swansea away was his fault how? Smalling lost a header to Ayew and then failed to track gomis his man (along with darmian). He wasn't responsible for any of the goals vs Sunderland as well (a free kick which went through everyone and another where Smalling's man scored from a corner iirc). You could argue he should have marked Charlie Austin vs Southampton though. He also could have done better vs Bournemouth for josh kings second goal too.
Your post sums you up fully. Just assume that blind is the reason we lose games even though he had nothing to do with any of the goals we conceded in most of those games.
As many others here, I say this is made up. Jose won't sell Blind before he gives him a chance. For Mata, you can make an argument though I personally think he'll give him a chance as well.
It's not like Sky have been amazing with their breaking news lately as well.
It's not like Sky have been amazing with their breaking news lately as well.
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It's called allowing differing opinions, which includes the view that some posters are fecking clueless about evaluating the quality of professional footballers.
Blind is a great, versatile team player who is willing to play anywhere for us. I'm not keen on him playing centre back next year but I'd rather have him than Jones or Rojo. One is a sicknote who never can stay fit and the other...well let's not go there. Point is, our squad is light enough.
Blind is great on the ball, he's a calm player with vision and can hit a pass. Just because lvg decided to change his position in his mid 20's isn't his fault. Some of the critism is harsh and some of the praise is overstated. He would be a fantastic squad player. I can see him as cover for center back but mainly in a midfield three. I think he could be good under Mourinho and has a good attitude and workrate. He's such an impressive player to see live,his antispation of the ball is great. We need to get rid of Fellaini, Rojo, Valencia, Young and Rooney in my opinion. The squad is light enough without losing quality . Daley Blind is well down the list.He's really the type of player we need.This talk of shoehorning Rooney into midfield is a mistake. What's essential is giving players a chance in there natural positions.
I think Mata and Blind should be given a chance. I don't trust sky sources like I use too. Too many in here are harsh on Blind in my opinion. Him and Smalling had many clean sheets last year, yes some of this was down to a negative approach from van gaal but he deserves some credit.
Blind is great on the ball, he's a calm player with vision and can hit a pass. Just because lvg decided to change his position in his mid 20's isn't his fault. Some of the critism is harsh and some of the praise is overstated. He would be a fantastic squad player. I can see him as cover for center back but mainly in a midfield three. I think he could be good under Mourinho and has a good attitude and workrate. He's such an impressive player to see live,his antispation of the ball is great. We need to get rid of Fellaini, Rojo, Valencia, Young and Rooney in my opinion. The squad is light enough without losing quality . Daley Blind is well down the list.He's really the type of player we need.This talk of shoehorning Rooney into midfield is a mistake. What's essential is giving players a chance in there natural positions.
I think Mata and Blind should be given a chance. I don't trust sky sources like I use too. Too many in here are harsh on Blind in my opinion. Him and Smalling had many clean sheets last year, yes some of this was down to a negative approach from van gaal but he deserves some credit.
So Blind was faultless then. We should rename him to Danny Beckenbauer Blind.
As he is so good apparently. All the goals were Smallings fault despite the fact most the games he was doing the most defending. You do realise a defence isn't about individuals right? It's a collective effort. Ours looked a joke at times last season. Just because other team have average defenders does not mean we should do the same. Not sure why you bringing Darmian or Smalling constantly into this. This is a thread about Blind. So you think Blind is better than Smalling? Let's do a poll and see who winner is. Smalling, Shaw and DDG are the three defensive players I'd keep at the club. Borthwick Jackson and Mensah are the ones I would give more chances to next season. Where as Blind, Jones, Valencia, Rojo, Darmian and Romero I don't give a toss. They all average players. If Jose bins them then I don't give a toss.
Blind was also at fault for West Broms goal. Just ball watching and marking nobody. But no doubt you'd pin that on Smalling too. It was everyones fault besides Blinds.
Even Rio and Vidic would struggle to carry someone like Blind.
Your post sums up you. Willing to settle for average.
I can see jose point. He's a liability at the back, a liability in the middle and lacking pace in lb.
Aa for mata let's just accept he's not suited for premiership.
Aa for mata let's just accept he's not suited for premiership.
No he's not.
Daley Beckenbauer Blind was apart of our so called amazing defence last season. He was faultless.
Jose is dead right. We seem to have become very confused at Utd about what a good PL player looks like in 2016
I am not saying for one second that Blind, Herrera and Mata are bad players. I actually really like Blind because you have to hand it to the lad, he played a year in the most physically demanding league in the world at CB despite being 5'11 and about 12st and did OK. Nevertheless, they are not the players we need to go away to places like West Ham, Stoke and WBA and get results.
Look at our away form this season. Look at the number of goals we conceded from set pieces. At OT, with a huge pitch where we could isolate the big lumps and play around them we did OK. Away from home at tight pokey little ground we massively struggled to compete physically. For this same reason, I think Darmian also needs to go, because a PL RB these days needs to be in the mould of a Clyne or a Walker.
I am not saying for one second that Blind, Herrera and Mata are bad players. I actually really like Blind because you have to hand it to the lad, he played a year in the most physically demanding league in the world at CB despite being 5'11 and about 12st and did OK. Nevertheless, they are not the players we need to go away to places like West Ham, Stoke and WBA and get results.
Look at our away form this season. Look at the number of goals we conceded from set pieces. At OT, with a huge pitch where we could isolate the big lumps and play around them we did OK. Away from home at tight pokey little ground we massively struggled to compete physically. For this same reason, I think Darmian also needs to go, because a PL RB these days needs to be in the mould of a Clyne or a Walker.
Also Jose has stated in the past he wants atleast 5 players over 6 foot in his starting 11 otherwise teams in the premier league would expose you at set pieces.
If we compare players by defending then what the hell Rojo and Jones still doing in this team, if midfielder like Blind was better and far more consistent there ?
Maureen must have replacements aka improvements already in place, if we're really ready to dump two first team players, so perhaps it'll mean actual progress at the end...
Maureen must have replacements aka improvements already in place, if we're really ready to dump two first team players, so perhaps it'll mean actual progress at the end...
Jones isn't a bad player. The problem is keeping him fit.
I don't have a point with this but some people are talking shit and really exaggerating so thought I'd present some facts
Come on people when will it ever sink in that Sky sports just create their own headlines/drama for the clicks. In 3 days it'll be "BREAKING NEWS, Mourinho does BLIND U TURN!" Managing to create and end a story all on their own.
Nor is Cesc to be honest. I would have never imagined Cesc in a midfield 2, in the Prem under Jose. Add in the whole Barcelona/Madrid thing, it was a big surprise to see him end up at Chelsea.
Smalling is 50x better and Blind wouldnt start at Villa.I don't have a point with this but some people are talking shit and really exaggerating so thought I'd present some facts
Would be daft to sell Blind, even if Jose doesn't see him as a regular starter he'd be a great squad player.
Carrick is much better in tighter spaces, is quicker at getting the ball forwards and is more varied in his passing, which allows our attack to function better. This is substantiated by the fact we stagnated in LVGs first season when Carrick got injured and Blind played in midfield. There is a good reason that neither LVG nor mourinho see Blind as a replacement for Carrick
I remember when Mourinho signed with Chelsea the second time there was reports he did not rate Mata and David Luiz. Many thought it was made up. Both players did not last much longer at Chelsea.
We don't know full detail who had more say in Cesc signing at Chelsea. Their DoF may have more say on transfer (evidently by Pedro, Baba this season, even the rumor of DoF refused Mourinho a striker and ended with Falcao as the result).
Cesc worked for sometimes for a Mourinho team then Cesc had his second half of season form drop, then never recovered to his best since.
My view on this completely depends on who's been identified as replacements. Both players have plenty of faults but I don't think we can cope without either until others come in.
I don't have a point with this but some people are talking shit and really exaggerating so thought I'd present some facts
Liability, too small, not a defender, no defensive instincts.
Actually amazes me how people can talk with such conviction when they are categorically wrong and speak with zero objectivity.
Best defensive record in the league, all down to De Gea I'm sure.
I'm ok with both leaving. Blind isn't United quality, and Mata doesn't suit the Jose system.
Schneiderlin and Fellaini in the back, Young in the boot, and Rojo on the roof rack.
Schneiderlin and Fellaini in the back, Young in the boot, and Rojo on the roof rack.
I don't have a point with this but some people are talking shit and really exaggerating so thought I'd present some facts
I like Blind and think that he should stay, but your stats aren't really for CBs, it looks like a combination for DMs.
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...es/tackles_won/tackles_lost/total_duels_%#avg
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Joint best. And our defensive record was down to our cautiousness in attack more than anything.
Blind is a very smart, versatile player. He has an excellent pass in him and he did a complete number on Harry Kane and Lukaku this season.
He is however ridiculously slow... it's horrendous when someone gets in behind him, although in fairness it's a rare occurrence due to his smart reactions and positioning.
Given his versatility I'd expect him to stay for now, even if he will play nowhere near as many games as he did last season (I think he will be able to live with this given his non-superstar status and near-guaranteed inclusion in the Holland squad)
Mata on the other hand, I think it would be best for both parties if he left. He seems to be a genuinely lovely guy, a fantastic ambassador for the club, and in terms of technical skill he is our best player by some distance - he is just completely lacking in any pace or strength and for that will always create a weakness/gap in our team whenever he plays.
I can't see Jose starting him regularly on that basis, nor can I see Juan at this stage in his career being happy with 20-30 appearances per season.
He is however ridiculously slow... it's horrendous when someone gets in behind him, although in fairness it's a rare occurrence due to his smart reactions and positioning.
Given his versatility I'd expect him to stay for now, even if he will play nowhere near as many games as he did last season (I think he will be able to live with this given his non-superstar status and near-guaranteed inclusion in the Holland squad)
Mata on the other hand, I think it would be best for both parties if he left. He seems to be a genuinely lovely guy, a fantastic ambassador for the club, and in terms of technical skill he is our best player by some distance - he is just completely lacking in any pace or strength and for that will always create a weakness/gap in our team whenever he plays.
I can't see Jose starting him regularly on that basis, nor can I see Juan at this stage in his career being happy with 20-30 appearances per season.
So do you think we can win a league with Blind and Smalling defence? Mourinho hasn't come here to finish 4th.
LVG put Blind in and arguably turfed out a better player in Evans. According to Squawka, Mata was our third best player behind Smalling and Blind. Martial was 9th and Schneiderlin was 5th. That is why I do not take these sites seriously. According to that site, Ashley Williams was the 5th best defender in the league. Was he feck.
If people watched our away games and how we struggled then you would see that we need to improve defensively to even have a chance of challenging for the league.
You brought up games in which he had no part to play in our loss. You may as well state blind was the reason atletico lost the CL final.
As usual your inability to read is coming front. No one is saying blind is faultless but many including you seems to fault him for nothing. As evidenced by the fact that you blamed him for the Swansea defeat when he in fact had a better game. And comments like 'Smalling is the only one defending in our back 4' makes me question if you actually understand what defending is. Blind did a lot of defending too and only an idiot would claim otherwise.
I do like Smalling but he is extremely brainless where he needs to be intelligent. It's arguable that he was the best defender since January or so. Of course blind makes mistakes. But individually if you count the mistakes Smalling and Blind will be almost same and it's got nothing to do with him 'covering for Blind'. In fact there were lots of situations where Smalling himself had to be covered by Blind darmian and others in the back 4. You and others introspect in detail every single mistake blind ever made when in fact it seems to be made by 99% of the defenders in the PL including Smalling which is where your point becomes senseless.
Frankly you don't seem to have a clue what you are talking when you claim that Evans is a better player than Blind when Evans proved time and again last season that he wasn't even as good as Rojo.
Hopefully Mourinho can take that skill he had for getting top fees from unwanted players from his last role.
Although we're obviously not out there desperate to lash cash away! So there will have to be some other mug!
Would be very comfy selling either.
Blind surely won't like going from starting every week to pure squad player, and Mata has never really fit us.
Although we're obviously not out there desperate to lash cash away! So there will have to be some other mug!
Would be very comfy selling either.
Blind surely won't like going from starting every week to pure squad player, and Mata has never really fit us.
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