I have been over there as well, and I'd wager that living there is a bit different to me and you going to the touristy areas.
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I have been over there as well, and I'd wager that living there is a bit different to me and you going to the touristy areas.
In a safe? I'm typing this with my Glock 19 two feet from me on the coffee table.
I really don't see how people can argue that a country, where owning firearms is legal, is a positive thing?
You know why so many robberies have fatal and other awful consequences? THE HOUSE INVADERS HAVE EASY ACCESS TO GUNS.
I think that's a start at least. I wouldn't ouright ban all guns from the off either, it would never work.
Yes, I would. As would my wife. She's as good a shot as I am.
No we wouldn't. But I do think some of the weaponry Americans are allowed to buy and handle is ridiculous. I saw the picture of a man in a Walmart store carrying a RPG ffs.
That is correct, sir.
And that's absolutely insane.
You cannot purchase a functional RPG in the United States.
I never said touristy areas. I've spent a lot of time there for months at a time through work.
And it's not only "bad people" with guns that do bad things. Good people with guns do them plenty as well. Of course, by definition, they ceased to be good when they do it, but you get the point. There's no way of telling.
Don't pressume to know why I want to ban rifles, I've given you the courtesy of asking your opinion and not putting one in your mouth, I'll ask the same in return.
And no, I'm using common sense. I think your country has a clear problem and it needs to start somewhere. Banning weapons designed for quick multiple kills would be a good start in my opinion. Banning all firearms wouldn't be.
Wow, just wow.
In what way? Would I want an intruder to enter my back door, and put themselves between me and my bedroom, where I keep my pistol when I sleep? That's a negative Ghost Rider.
My heart goes out to anyone involved here. Gay, straight, black, white, Muslim, Christian whatever! The radicals on all sides can feck off and kiss my arse!
I hate to say this but Trump will have a feckin field day with this. So very sad, and he will jump on this and use it to his advantage. I hate the fact that this will now be politicised and used as a vote gathering tactic. The same as the NRA will use this to their advantage and no doubt say that barmen or bouncers or even DJ's should be armed
I hate to say this but Trump will have a feckin field day with this. So very sad, and he will jump on this and use it to his advantage. I hate the fact that this will now be politicised and used as a vote gathering tactic. The same as the NRA will use this to their advantage and no doubt say that barmen or bouncers or even DJ's should be armed
Genuine question, do you have young kids?
And again.. pistols are used several times more to kill people than rifles. With that being fact, what would lead you to suggest banning rifles?
Clay pigeon shooting is fun tbf.
The intruder could also own a gun.
Wouldn't you rather live in a country that doesn't allow guns. If he snuck in, and you wasn't aware, he could just shoot you and your family....
Wouldn't you rather live in a country that doesn't allow guns. If he snuck in, and you wasn't aware, he could just shoot you and your family....
No, but it took an elaborate terrorist organisation to get them. Frustrated average Joe cannot just walk into a shop to buy a guns and rifles, though. Fortunately!
Absolutely, there are gun nutjobs like that all the time who gun down their drunk neighbour who mistook houses or their kid who sneaked out to go to a party.
The thought of that being the norm is absolutely mind-boggling to me.
Feck, imagine the wildlife I could kill with an RPG, and those home intruders and gang members!
So assault weapon then if that makes you happier. He used a high capacity rifle to kill a ridiculous number of people in the space of a minute.
Your argument that he would have killed them with another weapon is specious. How's he going to kill 50 people with a knife? Using a bomb requires a far greater level of knowledge, preparation, and risk than grabbing an AR-15 and a few magazines. Anyone with high capacity, semi-automatic rifles can go out and murder dozens of people with nothing in between. If someone wants to blow something up, they have to learn how to make a bomb, obtain the materials for said bomb, build the bomb without blowing themselves up, and then figure out how to use it. That's why there's a relatively small pool of bombmakers in terrorist groups. It's difficult and risky.
I think more than the guns being the main culprit here, it is American society as a whole. I am sorry, but something is just rotten in the state of America as Hamlet would say.
I think the weapon density in Canada outweighs the US, but you don't get nearly as many episodes there. Same goes for Finland, and also partially Norway where everyone and his dog owns a shotgun and a rifle.
I think the weapon density in Canada outweighs the US, but you don't get nearly as many episodes there. Same goes for Finland, and also partially Norway where everyone and his dog owns a shotgun and a rifle.
Nope. If I do have one, the guns will be put in places that are safer for the little ones. Until then, my wife and I know and practice our gun safety rules.
Once the little ones become old enough, I, like my father and his father and so on, will teach them the proper use and safety of the firearm.
it's incredible isn't it? apparently the 'solution' to someone entering your house with a gun, is to shoot back at him, with your family there!
but surely once they're in those safer places they're going to be far harder for you to get to when the intruder comes?
But it doesn't teach individuals have the right to in whatever way interact differently with gay people. Which is what I think your implying. In fact it teaches that it's none of your business.
If Christians use the bible in any way justify their homophobic actions towards gay people, they are in the wrong.
Brussels and Paris beg to differ.
An assault weapon? Why... that could be anything, couldn't it? If I hit you over the head with my shoe, did my shoe not just become an assault weapon?
And history has proven that people clearly do not make bombs when other weapons are or are not available...
History has also proven to us that people bent on mass murder are stopped by laws preventing them from obtaining weapons...
Yes, I am certain that the criminal that broke into your home wouldn't have a gun since it was illegal and all. Just like no one uses heroin and crack since it is illegal.
Apparently the Father of the shooter is saying this was nothing to do with terrorism and it was just to do with his hatred of gays.
That's ok then.
That's ok then.
Always amazes me the argument of self-defense. The overwhelming majority of persons have no clue how to engage a situation of this nature. Even worse when mentioning self-defense in a crowded public space, a dark movie theater, a classroom, etc. CQB (or CQC) and forms of defense are something taught with training not learned from watching television.
I wouldn't say "far harder". I'm thinking more along the lines of biometric safe on the coffee table instead of in the open.
Is it common for intruders to go into people's homes and execute them? Or even rob them? They do armed robberies in stores, businesses... Family houses when people aren't there. They run away when surprised, and the most likely reason they will shoot you is if you pull a gun on them. At least that's how criminals seem to work around here.
When does killing for religious reasoning stop being terrorism and starts becoming a hate crime? Surely both are the one and the same?
Taqiya spring to mind for anyone else?
Why when was a mass shooting in France nobody talks about gun control? They had machines guns where the hell they got them?