"A man's home is his castle" is quite literally one of the oldest and most recognized phrases in all of Anglo-American jurisprudence.
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We don't, as in you can't buy them like in the US. Clearly I wasn't being simplistic enough for you.
Your second sentence, I mean, I hope you're taking the piss, I really do. Cause if not then you're completely brainwashed.
Puts a mockery to the argument you have a gun for self defence, if you're then going to justify endangering yourself on the basis of having a gun, though.
Homosexuality is only referred to once in the bible.
Oh misunderstood your question. Any further explanation along this line will derail this thread. There is nothing In the bible about God hating gays. Also according to the bible being gay isn't the reason people go to hell. It doesn't even say Gays will suffer eternal damnation. The only reference to homosexuality in the bible is when it described Sodom and Gomora and said the men slept with each other. Nothing else.
My general pout still stands. Hatred of homosexuals is not encouraged or suggested in the bible at all.
Why, do they make this incident and the US homicide rates acceptable to you?
That's a false equivalency. Of course pistols are responsible for more murders than semi-auto rifles, due to their nature.
That doesn't change the argument that every person in America shouldn't be allowed to purchase something proficient at mass murder like an AR-15.
Spot on.
Unfortunately, due to the gun laws, it looks as though there'll be little sympathy unlike Brussels or Paris. No Je Suis Orlando, more "another senseless killing that could have been avoided, shame on you America". This is wrong.
Thoughts are with all the families of those who've lost loved ones.
That's my last post in here.
Thoughts are with all the families of those who've lost loved ones.
That's my last post in here.
And that insane mentality is why so many innocent people die every year in the US.
Of course, it does. The gun ban stops all these average criminals who do not have the money or connections to get a gun on the black market. And the gun ban stops all these average Joes who get mad in traffic, who have an argument with their neighbour or girlfriend, who get mad at gays kissing on the street to go on a rampage. Because it's much more difficult to get guns when you cannot just buy them at the supermarket. It's really not difficult to understand...
The Irish lecturing on gun law?! You've still got shitloads in circulation from the 'troubles'.So what we've established is that 1) people in Ireland do in fact have guns and that 2) people in Ireland do in fact die in home invasions. Correct?
We don't, as in you can't buy them like in the US. Clearly I wasn't being simplistic enough for you.
Your second sentence, I mean, I hope you're taking the piss, I really do. Cause if not then you're completely brainwashed.
So far in this thread I've seen Carolina Red state that shooting guns at the range is great fun, he keeps one near him at all times, he'd shoot the intruder as soon as they entered his front door, and his wife's a good shot too.
But he only does it for self defense. All in self defense.
But he only does it for self defense. All in self defense.
Interestingly enough, protecting my family has yet to lead to an innocent death. Who knew?!?
Yep. Anything else?
Whether it's terrorism or not depends on motivation, and in spite of your in depth analysis of "he's Muslim" we don't know for sure what that is yet.
It has from plenty of other people though. Or do they not matter just because it hadn't happened to you (yet)?
What relevance does that have? Our gun laws are currently far more restrictive than the US and therefore yes, I'm arguing that their gun laws are not restrictive enough. Such a weird, senseless argument to bring up our past troubles given how safe the country is now.
Answer to both one and two: Far, far, far, far, far, far, far less than in the USA.
Almost as if the two are related, or something. Weird, that.
“It is legitimate and necessary to ask oneself if this [same-sex marriage] is not perhaps part of a new ideology of evil, perhaps more insidious and hidden, which attempts to pit human rights against the family and against man.”
That was by Pope John Paul II
"Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder. Therefore special concern and pastoral attention should be directed to those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not."
That was by Pope Benedict XVI
Let's not pretend homophobia wasn't a staple of Catholicism for, essentially, all it's existance.
Pope Francis just represents a "smarter" version of Catholicism, who know the church has to adapt to survive. It's all hypocritical on my book, he's a perfect marketeer. They lost a lot with the unpopularity of Benedict and responded with Francis. Benedict renouncing whilst alive, a near unique anomaly, only adds to that suspicion.
You know... I was waiting to see if he'd bring that bit up on his own.
He has also stated that he lives in a city in South Carolina which is in the top50 of the most violent cities in the US. Which would mean that they have everyday crime like people like you from Ireland and me from Norway never can imagine. It is just a whole different world.
When was the last time you heard about a house invasion with a deadly outcome in your city? I for sure know that I cant remember one in my entire country. While I am sure Carolina Red can mention several just from his home city.
Do you not get it? Some of your responses are typical of those who defend gun ownership every time we have this discussion: a barely-concealed glee over your love for guns even in the face of appalling tragedies, and the pompous, macho legacy of tv and movies.
Besides, fool yourself all you want but the bottom line for politicians is not self-protection or heroism or the Constitution or tradition or whatever - it's the massive profits accrued from arms sales. Money is the only language those people understand; the little people are left with the myths they've been brainwashed with.
Gosh, if only some laws could come into circulation to make it less violent.
Any .. ideas .. ?
You also have a mostly homogeneous population of about 4.5 million, which is the same amount of people as my home state of South Carolina. I wouldn't think that would have anything to do with it at all either...
What relevance is the fact he was an 'NBA rookie'? Is it more a tragedy than the death of someone lacking sporting prowess?
Obviously if they banned guns it wouldn't solve the issue overnight, it would take years for the quantity of guns to drop to a 'normal' level.
However, would you rather not want to bring up your children, them bring up their children, in a society that doesn't rely on guns to protect themselves, but the actual people whose job it is, the police?
That's not true.
Yes, try some social programs to stop the epidemic crack and meth use and manufacturing.
@Carolina Red 
Are you actually real?
Are you actually real?Maybe, but even taking Ireland out of the equation and focusing on the bigger picture, your country has a far higher death by firearm rate to any other developed country per 100,000 people.
I've yet to have any glee for owning a gun. I sincerely hope I never once have to use them for their intended purpose.
I've yet to quote or display "macho movie lingo". I've simply stated facts and a differing viewpoint from those of a different culture.
I could care less why politicians today want to keep the 2nd Amendment alive. What I care about is that it exists as it does, as it was created by our Founding Fathers, as a safeguard against those who want to harm me.
I'm not brainwashed by a myth. I don't particularly like my government or many facets of my country's history. What I am concerned with is the fact that by some random chance, I was born here, and by being born here I am endowed with the right by keep and bear arms, and that means I am going to exercise that right to protect those who I love, and I am going to speak out in protection of that right because I want to be able to protect those that I love in whatever way I legally can.
If that is being a "little person", then so be it.
Well, we've banned murder, robbery, rape, etc. That didn't seem to stop them.
Up there with the most stupid, irrelevant comments ever made on this forum.
And it's been proven that that statistic is skewed by death by suicide using a firearm.
A way to appease the 2nd amendment crowd would be to make it legal to only own a musket as the FFs intended. Shit, make it mandatory too so that we're all even.
As I said before, I would rather bring up my future children in a world where people didn't have to defend themselves from bad people at all, but that is not going to happen. Since that is not going to happen, law abiding people should have the right to defend themselves.
You COULDN'T care less. Could care less means you actually care a little, when the statement you are saying infers that you don't care at all.
Uh, no it hasn't. 3.43 p/100k is the US. No other developed country is greater than 1 unless you count Israel which is 1.04.
I wasn't aware those things were actual physical objects.
They aren't banned, you just get punished for doing them.