That would make common sense though. There's no room for that!
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In that case despite the many, many Americans I've encountered in my life, I've miraculously never met an average one.
You're confirming to the stereotype with every comment you come out with.
If you look at the statistics for those in favour of more strict gun laws then you certainly aren't an average American.
I do believe something should be done, but I believe that lies in the realm of increasing background checks, improving our mental health system, etc.
In mass killings or killings in total though?
Surely it's at least safe to say the level of marksmanship it takes to kill a group of people with a pistol is above that of someone with a rifle capable of rapid fire?
I get the whole gun as safety thing, but that level of weapon is overkill.
True, true. Luckily enough, our border control agents are pretty good at preventing aliens and controlled substances from coming into the country.
it's nothing to do with being on a 'high horse', it's having to look on and see this happen so regularly in a country I really like. I've been there a lot, and loved it, I've known many Americans whom I am good friends with, so to see this keep happening when there is a very, very obvious solution (I'm not saying it'll be an immediate one) is incredibly frustrating.
Yes me to, including living there for a while and having several family members still living there now.
Of course I will sound like a "typical NRA member" when defending the right to own guns... the NRA supports the right to own guns. But... never once asked me what I think should actually be done, did you?
So, you really wouldn't know, would you?
This reminds me that I haven't been down the range in years. I'm gonna go with my tea party neighbour. He's tooled up as feck.
Donald trump, for feck's sake
Where have you been to in America?
The last thing this thread needs is your sarcasm!
Actually, it's exactly what it needs. As you were
Which would not have occurred if they could not get their hands on fire-arms. We agree.
However, in highlighting the one or two incidents where criminals have been able to get their hands on guns, I'm not sure you're perceptive enough to realise you have defeated your own argument. Which of the two has the higher frequency of mass shootings, the US or Europe? And if the answer is Europe, which it is, then you agree that Europe's stricter gun control laws make it harder for people to carry out mass shootings and, as a result, gun control leads to less deaths.
Carolina Red has doubled his post count in this thread
I agree with you, a pistol should be legal to own for personal protection, and would be quite handy in that aspect since it can be carried around and is easy to wield etc.
But the sheer level of guns available in the US is a problem, you can basically buy the arsenal from your favourite Xbox game and modify them to full-auto, and that is a problem.
You've repeatedly stated your thoughts without needing to be asked. You support the 2nd amendment and your precious right to keep deadly weapons regardless of the wider consequence of that.
Right on time.
Please someone tell him it wasn't fecking Radical Islamic Terrorism. PLEASE!
Supposedly someone at a traffic stop in LA found with assault guns, clips, and tannerite.
Feck this.
Feck this.
He appreciates the congrats but doesn't want them. If that was true, why tweet it in the first place?
In a crowded night club, I would venture to say that marksmanship isn't really an issue. "Spray and pray" etc can be done with any semi-auto firearm.
Mass shootings get a great deal of press, and therefore are what people not from here see the most... but you're talking about what? Less than 1% of gun crimes committed in this country with those.
He wants attention.
At least he spelled 'smart' right this time.
Barros was defending the sale of that shit the other day, "because it's fun blowing up melons"
And you want to make a remark about my level of perception?
People might want to bury their heads in sand and presume this has nothing to do with religion but I'd wager bulk of the anti gay sentiment is down to religious bollocks. Religious schools must be shut but before that the role religion in this must be accepted not batted away because it's too uncomfortable to talk about.
Also, the condescension in this thread is off the scale and I say that as someone who's never held a gun never mind shot one.
RIP to the victims.
Also, the condescension in this thread is off the scale and I say that as someone who's never held a gun never mind shot one.
RIP to the victims.
Drumpf is going to milk it to the extent he can, Hillary will not mention the 'Islamic terrorism' in her condemnation. Rinse and repeat.
Going off on a bit of a tangent like, but I want to congratulate Popps on constructing the longest sentence ever.
These threads always serve well to highlight the complete and utter nutters of the forum that otherwise go under the radar the rest of the year.
I'm yet to read the last 3 pages and my jaw has dropped several times. RIP to those involved.
I'm yet to read the last 3 pages and my jaw has dropped several times. RIP to those involved.
That shouldn't really matter, though. I think most of us understand that the vast majority of American citizens do not live under the threat of being caught up in a gun massacre, and that it's something that most people (thankfully) are unlikely to find themselves a victim of, or being involved in at all.
But there's no doubt that, compared to other, developed first-world nations, America experiences gun massacres on a far, far more regular basis, and thus suffers far more casualties from them. This sort of incident happens fairly regularly in the US, and the ease of access with which people can obtain guns is clearly the reason.
So you are arguing with me from a position of willful ignorance of my beliefs on the solution.
Very enlightened of you.
It's still a big issue is it not? And are we not talking about a mass shooting here?
If I may ask you this, have you ever shot at an armed intruder? Has your father? How many people do you honestly know who has?
If it's legal then so what?
As is the usual American style when things like this happen, people will be pissed for like a week (two weeks at the max), gun control polls taken immediately after the incident will favour stricter laws. But then once those two weeks are up and people are over it, they will go back to clinging to their guns, it's a cycle.
It has been said repeatedly, but if Sandy Hook changed nothing, then I doubt anything will. Not especially when it happened to a minority group. Also, the fact that the shooter is Muslim will overshadow the gun control debate anyways.
It has been said repeatedly, but if Sandy Hook changed nothing, then I doubt anything will. Not especially when it happened to a minority group. Also, the fact that the shooter is Muslim will overshadow the gun control debate anyways.
I think that the best solution is to kick the Americans out of America and keep the guns, only the animated objects should be banned.
Tannerite is something that should indeed be banned. That stuff is explosive ordinance.
This, someone arguing that Islam of all the big religions isn't the one with the most prejudiced and sad approach to gay-rights are arguing out of a stance of just being as PC as possible.
Go dress up in a "gay rights" t-shirt in predominantly muslim countries and predominantly christian countries and see which is the greatest success.