Yeah, I posted the same a few pages back. Actually pretty much EXACTLY the same, and it was ignored. The Preacher was called Kevin Swanson fwiw.
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Yeah, I posted the same a few pages back. Actually pretty much EXACTLY the same, and it was ignored. The Preacher was called Kevin Swanson fwiw.
Valid question. Reports are that he called 911 before he did it and 'pledged allegiance' the IS, fcuk knows.
I did not know that. That is interesting.
Sounds very much like the first one to me.
At the risk of repeating myself, that's not a very well thought through argument. No-one has been shot dead at the Euros; the situation at the Euros is actually a great argument against allowing members of the public to buy and walk around with guns. The worst that happened was bottles and chairs being thrown about, not a gun massacre.
Sorry, but this type of shit really doesn't help. So very sad.
The limitation is on your end, they wont stop you from going from here. I know people that have gotten fines for smoking weed in Norway that has been stopped and refused entry into the US. And if you have violence or something on your record like I reckon most of these hooligans do, you are sure as hell not getting in.
It kinda gets into what one of my college professors wrote his doctoral thesis about... the use of football (sport) as a replacement for warfare in Europe.
They only block you from travelling to the US if you have fairly grave crimes on your rap sheet tbf. 'Crimes of moral terpitude'.
Which seems as though you're implying that we'd have had tons of people shot dead at these big events we've hosted in the States.. but we haven't.
So is yours a very well thought out argument?
I've never really understood this. To me, gay men are awesome. Why? They don't like women. Less competition. However, I have a theory. I think they hate gays because of jealousy. They are jealous that these men, have come out, and they themselves haven't, and every night, they go to sleep dreaming of getting air tighted, aka a dick in every hole, by as many hot gay men as possible. Basically it's confirmed that if you hate gays, you are gay, and you hate yourself for not embracing the all the sex you could possibly want, anywhere at any time #grinder lifestyle.
The only people who have a right to hate gay men, are women, who are being denied stylish, snappy dressing life partners.
He probably thinks it will make him a martyr or some such bollox I guess.
Isn't it often left up to the customs agent? The guy I know that have gotten busted with 15 grams or more of Marijuana in Norway and therefore got it on his record look fairly dodgy so that might have something to do with it.
These people live in a world where everyone is a Wild West gunslinger who can pull a gun out their holster and shoot a man 20 feet away in less than a second.
I checked online because I was shitting it about my drink driving record, as it's a felony in some states. I was ok though, but yeah, drugs and violence are the big no nos.
religion of peace, they said
Cheers couldn't remember his name. How that didn't automatically kill Ted Cruz's political career forever is slightly worrying.
No different to the right wing Christians who wish death to gays, or who blame all natural disasters on allowing gays to marry or women to have abortions.
While this has been connected to ISIS and all, I have to say, the things I have heard from American "Christians" about homosexuals haven't created a particularly glowing image of them in my mind.
They dont care because theyre not d1ckheads.
Beat me by like 30 seconds!
That's such a stupid argument, am actually suprised you posted it.
You really went into every nuck and cranny for that one.
Well some people in the thread are happy to go around saying that Islam is the problem, which is pretty absolute, no?
Missing the point. If a set of people were hooligans plus had access to guns easily, it would be mayhem. The fact that the hooligan culture is in europe and the gun culture in US has been a saviour in this case. That's what he meant.
Because one scholar defines a religion?
It's not that rare within Islam, or other religions for that matter, though.
Well some people in the thread are happy to go around saying that Islam is the problem, which is pretty absolute, no?
can't disagree with that
one scholar, and 77 countries that forbid homosexuality, including 10 that hand out death penalty for the abhorrent crime of having same sex relationship.Because one scholar defines a religion?
You don't need to read between the lines and look for hidden meaning in what I was saying, I didn't imply anything; it was all there in black and white. You've argued that there hasn't been violence at major sporting events in the US, apart from pipe-bombing, and then compared that situation to the Euros. The reasons for the violence at the Euros have been covered by others, it's a sub-culture of a small minority in European football, but that is immaterial to this debate. The point of my statement is that if gun laws in Europe were as unrestricted as they are in the US, it would have been a gun massacre in Europe. So using the situation at the Euros to support your pro-gun argument is not that well thought through..
Gotcha.
Well, we have gangs coming out our arses, but at least we don't have Hooligans!
What's the betting he's a wannabe with no friends, and is using Islamic State as an excuse.
Compared to all the Christian nations that do it too and their historically awful record on the subject too.
There's no doubt Islam has a problem with attitudes to homosexuality, but its a far more complex issue than 'Islam turns people into dicks' which the rampant rise of Islamophobia in the past few years would have people believe.
I mentioned the Euros because I was randomly wondering why, considering all the violence we do have in America, we don't have the kinds of things happening at the tournament. It had literally zero connection to the gun debate.
I apologize for having a random thought and asking about it.
I only saw a small part of it on the headlines, but it seemed to me like several of the last similar statements he has given after gun massacres in the last 12 months - a very pissed off resignation that the status quo will persist. Even when he said words like "we are angry", he didn't sound angry to me - just absolutely fed up with the disastrous and illogical situation the country finds itself locked into.
Call me a conspiracist but I don't believe this so called 911 call pledging allegiance to isis at all.
A religion of peace can't forbid same sex marriage? Until recently same sex marriages were banned in the west but I don't think anyone was arguing that those countries were anything but peaceful.
See above, am more talking about his point about Islam not being a religion of peace based on that one scholar.
I was thinking exactly the same thing, however that wont make an ounce of difference to Trump, Cruz or Rubio or the other right wing morons just looking for an excuse to ban Muslims, or bomb the shit out of any Middle Eastern Country or to use it to push their agenda and get elected through fear mongering and propaganda. Unfortunately many will lap the fear up and rush to seek safety under Trump's grubby little wing.
Definitely applies, there are generations who have never established their identity in the same way as most previous generations did.