Harry Kane - 2015/16 performances

He was poor yesterday and his selfishness annoys me at times but come on, he's still the best striker England have got. Fantastic player.
 
Nickosaur said:
He was poor yesterday and his selfishness annoys me at times but come on, he's still the best striker England have got. Fantastic player.
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Yep. Sometimes i wish english fans had to put up with Éder to see what's good.
 
Kane was disappointing last night. I think Roy missed a trick by not substituting him for Vardy with 15 mins left: that would have given Vardy an opportunity as an impact player and also given Kane the motivation to prove him wrong on Thursday. You could tell by the way he was getting caught offside it just not his night.

And why oh why is he taking all the dead balls except when directly in front of goal?
 
He wasn't at the races at all in that match - I think the occasion got to him a bit tbh. Hopefully he can get a couple of chances in the next match and put one away to get rid of those nerves.
 
Should not of finished the match, he was like a rabbit in the head lights all match.
 
You're either shit or worldclass here at the caf, there's no inbetween.
 
Apparently "senior" england players have urged Roy to drop him in favour of Vardy against Wales.
 
He looked tired after about 30 minutes. We were absolutely certain Roy would take him off around the hour mark, and were amazed that he lasted the 90. Maybe Roy intends to start Vardy in the next game and give Kane a breather? In any case, very poor performance by him, but most Spurs players were disappointing so I'm wondering whether they're not all gassed after their tiring season.
 
Wouldn't be that bad idea to be fair, if I were you I'd let Wayuls have the ball so you don't get hit on the counter by Bayol. Chav is pretty quick himself so you could hit them on the counter instead. Rooney can play his hollywood passes, pacey Sterling and Vardy and you're alright.

Just ask your opponents to have the possession though.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
He looked tired after about 30 minutes. We were absolutely certain Roy would take him off around the hour mark, and were amazed that he lasted the 90. Maybe Roy intends to start Vardy in the next game and give Kane a breather? In any case, very poor performance by him, but most Spurs players were disappointing so I'm wondering whether they're not all gassed after their tiring season.
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If we played a 4-4-2 diamond how its supposed be played and not the interpretation Roy had of it against Portugal, we could be so lethal. Instead of rooney at the tip flanked by Vardy and Kane, ( literally the thought of two up top made roy shit himself so much he made them go wide tracking back rendering them utterly useless) just go with Sturridge and Vardy/Kane up top. Alli/Sterling in the no10.
Dier sitting
Rooney and Lallana on the sides. These two will run themselves into the ground so will have to be replaced at some point.
Rose and walker have license to go up the pitch and in a pressing system this will suit them.

Its the best option we have, suits all the personnel and maximes the strengths of the squad. Roy just needs to let the shackles off.
The 4-3-3 was good but ultimately had no emd product which is what a front three containing Sterling and Lallana will get you. We need to put our genuine match winners on the pitch and players that are capable of killing teams. Vardy/Sturridge/Rashford would have put Russia to the sword.
No use looking good attacking without actually doing anything, I think if he lets the shackles off we can really burst in to life at this touney and surprise a few. If he carries on like hes started we'll go out with a whimper.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
He looked tired after about 30 minutes. We were absolutely certain Roy would take him off around the hour mark, and were amazed that he lasted the 90. Maybe Roy intends to start Vardy in the next game and give Kane a breather? In any case, very poor performance by him, but most Spurs players were disappointing so I'm wondering whether they're not all gassed after their tiring season.
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Really?? Well for what it's worth, both Walker and Dier were named man of the match by different factions and Rose certainly wasn't disappointing. Alli was a bit below par but not excessively so. Kane was well below par but one from five isn't "most", or at least it wasn't when I went to school.
 
Looks like the English have found this tournament's scapegoat.
 
Vicar of Dibbly said:
Really?? Well for what it's worth, both Walker and Dier were named man of the match by different factions and Rose certainly wasn't disappointing. Alli was a bit below par but not excessively so. Kane was well below par but one from five isn't "most", or at least it wasn't when I went to school.
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Yeah Rose was good. But Kane and Alli were very disappointing, and I thought Walker had a few very bad moments - not quite as disappointing as the first two but that's also cos I don't expect much of him. I'd much rather have Clyne start, but that's me.

Totally forgot about Dier, that's 2 out of 5 who imo were good.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
Yeah Rose was good. But Kane and Alli were very disappointing, and I thought Walker had a few very bad moments - not quite as disappointing as the first two but that's also cos I don't expect much of him. I'd much rather have Clyne start, but that's me.

Totally forgot about Dier, that's 2 out of 5 who imo were good.
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Walker was fantastic throughout the match and easily one of England's best players (very much ahead of Clyne now and rightly so) - Rose did pretty well - Dier was possibly MOM - Alli did ok, nothing great but nothing particularly bad either (he is 20) - Kane didn't have a good game I'll give you that.
 
balaks said:
Walker was fantastic throughout the match and easily one of England's best players (very much ahead of Clyne now and rightly so) - Rose did pretty well - Dier was possibly MOM - Alli did ok, nothing great but nothing particularly bad either (he is 20) - Kane didn't have a good game I'll give you that.
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That's funny, we all thought Walker was very meh, a few good moments but overall not great. But I was mostly disappointed by Kane and Alli, I have to say. I'm surprised that people aren't 'harsher' with Alli, he was pretty much non existent except for a beautiful piece of skill at some point. Sure he's young, but that doesn't really change his performance, it just explains it.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
That's funny, we all thought Walker was very meh, a few good moments but overall not great. But I was mostly disappointed by Kane and Alli, I have to say. I'm surprised that people aren't 'harsher' with Alli, he was pretty much non existent except for a beautiful piece of skill at some point. Sure he's young, but that doesn't really change his performance, it just explains it.
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Was he any worse than Sterling? Not in my view. I'm not saying he had a great game but he didn't have a terrible game.
 
He's like Cavani. Has scored a lot of goals, but I'm not sure how and why him
 
It could be that the step up in class required, has come too quickly for him. Remember, he is quite a young player, still.
He is used to playing for Spurs, but playing in front of a bigger crowd, against better players has shell-shocked him a little.
I think he should be given another opportunity to start, but if he performs badly, then at half time bring on Vardy and from here on in he will be our main striker.
In the group stages, we can afford to experiment a little, but in the next round, we can't afford any passengers, like Kane.
 
sunama said:
It could be that the step up in class required, has come too quickly for him. Remember, he is quite a young player, still.
He is used to playing for Spurs, but playing in front of a bigger crowd, against better players has shell-shocked him a little.
I think he should be given another opportunity to start, but if he performs badly, then at half time bring on Vardy and from here on in he will be our main striker.
In the group stages, we can afford to experiment a little, but in the next round, we can't afford any passengers, like Kane.
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Wales defence is no better than an average prem side and Russia were just appalling. the "step up in quality" isn't true at all.
 
Him and Alli look out of sorts. Looks like they've ran themselves ragged last season. Alli has at least saved himself at the end there.

We have other good strikers. He's got to be replaced after they've scored.
 
Kane's looking a shadow of his Spurs form last season. Is it tiredness? has he succumbed to pressure? I don't know, but on the form of the internationals(from the pre-tourne friendlies to now) I think we should go with Vardy up top.
 
People who watched our last u-21 euro noticed that Kane looked exactly like he did a year ago or was it two. He went on there as a major star and never delivered. The story repeats itself.
Whatever the reason, he is not a reliable option upfront in the international games.
 
There are tons of super forwards who have had underwhelming summer tournaments at some stage of their career. Kane hasn't been guilty of missing easy chances but equally his performances so far don't merit a starting place in the team. Perhaps he will make a contribution later on in this event or perhaps we will have to wait a few years before he has an impact in a summer event.
 
Shinji10only said:
Kane's looking a shadow of his Spurs form last season. Is it tiredness? has he succumbed to pressure? I don't know, but on the form of the internationals(from the pre-tourne friendlies to now) I think we should go with Vardy up top.
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Yes tiredness, he's knackered, he's been playing football continuously for 2 years with hardly any rest. After the 14/15 season he went straight to the England U21 Euros, then back to club pre season training and preparation, then he played every game this season just gone, then straight to the England squad. I hope he's dropped for the rest of this tournament, he badly needs rest.

@shaggy The Russian and Welsh defences are not "better defences", the Welsh are all Premier League players !! As for bigger crowds, the French stadiums are normal football stadiums, the crowds are no bigger than the PL crowds in England. Kane is knackered, see above.
 
Been way too selfish so far. Awful performances too. Seems to think he turned into a world class player already and is like ronaldo where he can look for a shot every time he gets it. Needs dropping without a doubt.
 
Liver_bird said:
If we played a 4-4-2 diamond how its supposed be played and not the interpretation Roy had of it against Portugal, we could be so lethal. Instead of rooney at the tip flanked by Vardy and Kane, ( literally the thought of two up top made roy shit himself so much he made them go wide tracking back rendering them utterly useless) just go with Sturridge and Vardy/Kane up top. Alli/Sterling in the no10.
Dier sitting
Rooney and Lallana on the sides. These two will run themselves into the ground so will have to be replaced at some point.
Rose and walker have license to go up the pitch and in a pressing system this will suit them.

Its the best option we have, suits all the personnel and maximes the strengths of the squad. Roy just needs to let the shackles off.
The 4-3-3 was good but ultimately had no emd product which is what a front three containing Sterling and Lallana will get you. We need to put our genuine match winners on the pitch and players that are capable of killing teams. Vardy/Sturridge/Rashford would have put Russia to the sword.
No use looking good attacking without actually doing anything, I think if he lets the shackles off we can really burst in to life at this touney and surprise a few. If he carries on like hes started we'll go out with a whimper.
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All of this.
 
Vicar of Dibbly said:
Yes tiredness, he's knackered, he's been playing football continuously for 2 years with hardly any rest. After the 14/15 season he went straight to the England U21 Euros, then back to club pre season training and preparation, then he played every game this season just gone, then straight to the England squad. I hope he's dropped for the rest of this tournament, he badly needs rest.

@shaggy The Russian and Welsh defences are not "better defences", the Welsh are all Premier League players !! As for bigger crowds, the French stadiums are normal football stadiums, the crowds are no bigger than the PL crowds in England. Kane is knackered, see above.
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Plus England formation doesn't play to his best game like Spurs.
 
Hasn't Alli Been given the licence to get forward and support Kane? I think the 4-4-3m is set up to to get the best out of Kane, He never has to move out of position, he's always in the middle of the pitch(he doesnt really roam from the strikers position) and he's got the number 10 he plays with at spurs behind him.

I don't think people can use our tactics as an excuse.
 
Kane doesn't seem to be on form but the way England play doesn't help him at all. The build up is slow and it is easy for the opposition to close down the striker(s). Yesterday Vardy touched the ball only few times and was quite lucky to score.
 
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