Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)

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Vialli_92 said:
The only bad thing he did was miss the penalty. Tried hard tonight to be fair to him.

Believe me I hate Ronaldo more than any one but he was still good.
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Jerch said:
For me he is among the very best. In his younger years he was the most exciting player I saw, when he got older he reinvented himself as a goalscorer. To judge him on this displays for Portugal is stupid, he had a long season, he is not completely fit and isn't young anymore.
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We're judging him not only on the displays against Portugal, but two seasons of subpar displays against good teams. Out of his 16 goals in the UCL this season 11 were against Shakhtar and Malmö. He simply doesn't have what it takes to perform against the PSGs, the Atleticos and the Barcelonas of this world anymore. He has lost considerable pace, he doesn't have the shooting skills he used to have, and he rarely manages to dribble past anyone anymore.

Ronaldo is not God. He's human like all of us, and just like any human, he can't defeat the passage of time. Age has caught up to him and I wouldn't be surprised if this were to be his last season at RM.
 
The Firestarter said:
Is this SFW? :lol: Was on a front page in one of the sport sites here.

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@FC Ronaldo Let's forget all the haters and focus on what's important ;)
 
TitusCrumble said:
The mere fact that his whoscored rating was above Suarez questions the credibility of these sources. Whoscored/whatever rating is no way to judge how a player's season has been, because I think most Barca fans would tell you Suarez has had a better overall season than Neymar. Perhaps @Brown Toothpick could enlighten as us to who was better?
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Between Suarez and Neymar? Definitely Luis. If Neymar kept up his amazing form of the first half of the season, or maybe the first two thirds, he'll be my pick. But Suarez did everything from scoring goals to assists to creating chances for the rest. He's been outstanding and consistent from day one.
 
NYC said:
Neymar's whoscore rating was 8.4 this season.
.03 lower than Messi and .42 better than suarez. He still had a very good season imo and I would rate him higher than Current Ronaldo.



Yet, he saw the same thing I guess..

Interesting stats for them:

Real Madrid

  • Bale: 19 goals/ 81 shots (0pks)
  • Benzema: 24 goals/ 98 shots (0pks)
  • Cristiano: 35 goals/227 shots (6pks)

Barcelona

  • Neymar: 24 goals/124 shots (5pks)
  • Suarez: 40 goals/137 shots (3pks)
  • Messi: 26 goals/158 shots (3pks)
Bayern Munich

  • Muller: 20 goals/95shots (5pks)
  • Lewandowski: 30goals/152 shots (2pks)
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Those stats are insane. Look how many less shots the others take than Ronaldo while scoring more, or similar goals. Suarez stats particular are very impressive.

5 more goals than Ronaldo, with 3 less penalties and almost half as many shots. Without having every single one of his team attacks funneled right to him.
 
IMHO we're starting to see Ronaldo on the downturn now. That being said he'll still score 50 zillion goals in that league
 
NYC said:
Neymar's whoscore rating was 8.4 this season.
.03 lower than Messi and .42 better than suarez. He still had a very good season imo and I would rate him higher than Current Ronaldo.



Yet, he saw the same thing I guess..

Interesting stats for them:

Real Madrid

  • Bale: 19 goals/ 81 shots (0pks)
  • Benzema: 24 goals/ 98 shots (0pks)
  • Cristiano: 35 goals/227 shots (6pks)

Barcelona

  • Neymar: 24 goals/124 shots (5pks)
  • Suarez: 40 goals/137 shots (3pks)
  • Messi: 26 goals/158 shots (3pks)
Bayern Munich

  • Muller: 20 goals/95shots (5pks)
  • Lewandowski: 30goals/152 shots (2pks)
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You may rate Neymar higher than Ronaldo but stats actually don't back that. Also Neymar fizzled out quite a lot once Messi came back. Ronaldo may not be better than Messi but he is on another level to both Neymar and Suarez simply because of the consistency he has shown for 7-8 years running.
 
FreeHerrera said:
We're judging him not only on the displays against Portugal, but two seasons of subpar displays against good teams. Out of his 16 goals in the UCL this season 11 were against Shakhtar and Malmö. He simply doesn't have what it takes to perform against the PSGs, the Atleticos and the Barcelonas of this world anymore. He has lost considerable pace, he doesn't have the shooting skills he used to have, and he rarely manages to dribble past anyone anymore.

Ronaldo is not God. He's human like all of us, and just like any human, he can't defeat the passage of time. Age has caught up to him and I wouldn't be surprised if this were to be his last season at RM.
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You have some issue with players past 30 it seems. First Zlatan and now Ronaldo. Your comment that he cannot cut it against the likes of PSG is hilarious since he had one of his better games against Barca at Camp Nou this season. You can call him a flat track bully all you want but he plays against the same teams that Messi and co play against so why is he being targeted for not performing against better opposition when Atleti showed up Barca which had all their superstars. People and their blind hatred towards a real great of the game is ridiculous.
 
Ronaldo has been this player for a while the decline in his all round game is just even more pronounced now. To the point that if he doest score he's hasn't done much much in the game, but if you are scoring 50 goals a season you can do that. Personally i'm taking Neymar over him and Suarez but he's still a world class player. Just feel like he copped out somewhat by being solely obsessed with goals at Real while he was a more balanced player here getting 40 goals but a much better team player and a creator. Still the second best player I have ever seen.
 
Revan said:
To be fair, no-one here (and barely anywhere) has seen plenty of Pele and Di Stefano. It is mostly watching documentaries with the chosen match in international stage.
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Then they shouldn't have such strong opinions really. It's a clueless opinion based on a hunch.

Akash said:
I have seen lots of full Maradona games and I'm baffled as to why he's rated higher than Messi. Watched lots of videos of the other two and have the same feeling. It's a non contest. Messi shits all over them. When you have a player who's the best dribbler ever, the best passer ever AND one of the one of the best goalscorers ever then he quite clearly belong in a league of his own. Plus who here is old enough to have seen all those players?!? Doubt there's anyone. Most of them are going off the odd games here and there for Pele and Di Stefano.
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At least you've seen a lot of Maradona.

I'd argue that if you aren't old enough and haven't seen greats of the past, then you really shouldn't be saying someone from the present IS the best ever. The best I can say is that "I can't imagine a player being better than X". Beyond that, I'd just be bigging up the biggies of your own time.

VivaObertan said:
Because of evolution.

Drop any of the top 5 players in the world into absolutely any era pre 1990 and they would wipe the floor with everyone. Faster, stronger, greater skill set and knowledge.

It's like saying the original Mercedes SL (1955 or something) is the best car ever as opposed to the 2016 Mercedes SL because the former was by far the best thing around at the time though statistically (speed, features, safety, reliability etc) it falls short in every aspect.

I love watching the videos of Best, Charlton, Pele, Maradona et al because they absolutely dominated the era they played in BUT they are pretty much playing a different game to what is played now.
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If "Because.. evolution" is the weakest argument you can put forth then you have little argument to offer anyway. Is Alistair Cook as great a batsman as Don Bradman? Is the latest basketball star greater than Jordan? Is Mayweather greater than Jordan? And all because of .. evolution? Greatness is what you achieve within your own era and environment. And if A achieve greater things showcasing a higher level of skill relative to the standard of medicine, technology, fitness etc. than B, then A is greater than B despite B being in an era where those factors are much improved.

I see skill and application of it, as the differentiating factor of greatness. Things like technology, sports science and all is largely irrelevant in these debates, and mostly semantics and a product of the times, rather than attibutable to the greatness of a player. Figo had these things available in greater dozes than Charlton, but it had nothing to do with his own greatness.
 
IFC 1905 said:
Ronaldo is an incredible player but he isn't a genius. That's it. He's like...ten shin han and Maradona, Pele, Messi, Zidane, Ronaldinho and others are super saijans.

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Tien is awesome but that is still doing a huge disservice to Ronaldo's career. He'll rightly be regarded alongside those other greats because what he's done in the game is remarkable.

Ronaldo's being viewed as if he was nothing but a poacher during his career and that's wrong. Look at RvN - a great player who was pretty much a poacher, and then look back at Ronaldo's career. This "genius" you speak of is what seperates him to Ruud because even though he's become more of a poacher in recent times, he's still head and shoulders above RvN who was one of the best poachers in world football. That in and of itself is incredible, nevermind his other achievements.

We get it, you're obsessed with Messi, he's the best thing since Goku went SSJ to you, but these hyperbolic (time chamber) comments to big up Messi and belittle Ronaldo are too much. Both are greats and, when the time comes for them to hang up their boots, will be seen as such.
 
For those with more knowledge on history, how was gerd muller regarded in his playing days? A great goal scorer for sure, was he also regarded among all time greats or a genius?
 
NK86 said:
You have some issue with players past 30 it seems. First Zlatan and now Ronaldo. Your comment that he cannot cut it against the likes of PSG is hilarious since he had one of his better games against Barca at Camp Nou this season. You can call him a flat track bully all you want but he plays against the same teams that Messi and co play against so why is he being targeted for not performing against better opposition when Atleti showed up Barca which had all their superstars. People and their blind hatred towards a real great of the game is ridiculous.
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That was one game this season though. He failed to show up against PSG over two games. He failed to show up against Atletico. He failed to show up against the good teams in La Liga. Scoring in only 2 out of 8 matches against the top 5 teams in La Liga (2 against Bilbao, and 1 against Barcelona).

In the CL he was completely anonymous against PSG and Atletico.

I do not have anything "against" players over 30. Zidane was my favorite player until he retired at 34. But Ronaldo is no Zidane. He doesn't have the intelligence, the technique, or the selflessness to ever become a Zidane.

Ronaldo never had the foresight to improve skills he could use when his pace diminished. And what you have now is a guy that rarely can run or dribble past defenders anymore because his pace is not what it was. He can't take free-kicks, he can't make those beautiful long passes that Messi has become so good at the past two seasons and when his jumping abilities slowly diminishes too due to age all you will have is the occasional tap-in and penalty.

He turned himself into a one-trick pony.
 
FreeHerrera said:
That was one game this season though. He failed to show up against PSG over two games. He failed to show up against Atletico. He failed to show up against the good teams in La Liga. Scoring in only 2 out of 8 matches against the top 5 teams in La Liga (2 against Bilbao, and 1 against Barcelona).

In the CL he was completely anonymous against PSG and Atletico.

I do not have anything "against" players over 30. Zidane was my favorite player until he retired at 34. But Ronaldo is no Zidane. He doesn't have the intelligence, the technique, or the selflessness to ever become a Zidane.

Ronaldo never had the foresight to improve skills he could use when his pace diminished. And what you have now is a guy that rarely can run or dribble past defenders anymore because his pace is not what it was. He can't take free-kicks, he can't make those beautiful long passes that Messi has become so good at the past two seasons and when his jumping abilities slowly diminishes too due to age all you will have is the occasional tap-in and penalty.

He turned himself into a one-trick pony.
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Are you insane? You are talking about a guy who has scored 50+ goals for so many seasons running as if he has turned into Djemba-Djemba. The absolute nonsense in that post hurt my head.

He cannot run, cannot dribble! Are you drunk when you see him play? Messi was anonymous against Atleti in the CL. I don't see you pointing that out. Messi has been far less than spectacular for Argentina bar the last year or so, but I don't see you pointing that out. There is bias and then there is the load of crap which you posted.

By one-trick pony you mean a guy who can shoot and score from varying distance, whose heading is second to none, whose pace is still spectacular and who still terrorizes defenses. I think you need to wobble your head before you post. God, the forum's quality has diminished!
 
NK86 said:
Are you insane? You are talking about a guy who has scored 50+ goals for so many seasons running as if he has turned into Djemba-Djemba. The absolute nonsense in that post hurt my head.

He cannot run, cannot dribble! Are you drunk when you see him play? Messi was anonymous against Atleti in the CL. I don't see you pointing that out. Messi has been far less than spectacular for Argentina bar the last year or so, but I don't see you pointing that out. There is bias and then there is the load of crap which you posted.

By one-trick pony you mean a guy who can shoot and score from varying distance, whose heading is second to none, whose pace is still spectacular and who still terrorizes defenses. I think you need to wobble your head before you post. God, the forum's quality has diminished!
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It's incredible isn't it? Used to be some real quality posts and original content. I'm just here for news nowadays.
 
NK86 said:
Are you insane? You are talking about a guy who has scored 50+ goals for so many seasons running as if he has turned into Djemba-Djemba. The absolute nonsense in that post hurt my head.
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Again you are using Messi's one bad game against Atletico as counter proof. He also scored against Atletico in both games in la Liga. How many did Ronaldo score against them this season? None. Messi has turned into one of the great passers in the game over the last two seasons. Can you imagine Ronaldo being able to create those Xavi-like assists Messi has been churning out left and right anytime soon?

Yes, Ronaldo was great a few seasons ago. But it's not a few seasons ago anymore.

Also, please stop comparing Ronaldo to Messi. It's not 2012 anymore. A better comparison these days would be someone like Griezmann,Higuain, Aguero etc. Ronaldo simply isn't on the same level as the very best (Suarez, Messi, Iniesta, Modric, Bale) anymore.
 
FreeHerrera said:
Again you are using Messi's one bad game against Atletico as counter proof. He also scored against Atletico in both games in la Liga. How many did Ronaldo score against them this season? None. Messi has turned into one of the great passers in the game over the last two seasons. Can you imagine Ronaldo being able to create those Xavi-like assists Messi has been churning out left and right anytime soon?

Yes, Ronaldo was great a few seasons ago. But it's not a few seasons ago anymore.

Also, please stop comparing Ronaldo to Messi. It's not 2012 anymore. A better comparison these days would be someone like Griezmann,Higuain, Aguero etc. Ronaldo simply isn't on the same level as the very best (Suarez, Messi, Iniesta, Modric, Bale) anymore.
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Stop, seriously just stop with the mindless drivel. I am not comparing him to Messi - who I have rated higher than Ronaldo for a long time. Simply used his example to point out great players have poor games. You conveniently miss out Messi's poor games for Argentina as it does not suit your agenda.

And Ronaldo isn't on the same level as Bale/Modric! :lol: I cannot believe they let you post in the mains. Really don't know whether to laugh or pull my hair out with those posts.
 
IhabX7 said:
It's incredible isn't it? Used to be some real quality posts and original content. I'm just here for news nowadays.
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Seriously, the posts and insight from the likes of Brwned were great to read. You actually learnt a few things. Nowadays, with the new system, newbies like FreeHerrera have stunk up the place with the drivel they have been posting. I generally skip half the posts by them because I know it will be useless more often than not.
 
NK86 said:
Seriously, the posts and insight from the likes of Brwned were great to read. You actually learnt a few things. Nowadays, with the new system, newbies like FreeHerrera have stunk up the place with the drivel they have been posting. I generally skip half the posts by them because I know it will be useless more often than not.
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Anyone else could have disagreed with you in the same way, even a full member. If you go through the last few pages of this thread, you'd find even more ridiculous opinions and poor comparisons of Ronaldo with lesser players done by full members and no one or even you is having a dig at them. Personally I have a similar view as you but i understand that people aren't the same and some folks see things quite differently, not necessarily because they are newbies. It's fine if you don't wanna debate further with that chap but there's no need to get so cocky about it.
 
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I don't know what's funnier.

Thinking that Ronaldo is a level below Modric/Bale or that Bale is up there with Suarez/Neymar/Iniesta/Messi as the very best.
 
I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him. The whole of social media are making fun of him, and I'm sure plenty of it is light-hearted, but it still seems that the guy is genuinely hated by a lot of people.
 
VorZakone said:
I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him. The whole of social media are making fun of him, and I'm sure plenty of it is light-hearted, but it still seems that the guy is genuinely hated by a lot of people.
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The issue is the arrogance for most I think, against Iceland he blames defensive tactics and being a "small nation" with a "small mentality", Austria he had chances.

It makes him have egg on his face when he doesn't win, highest football player on the planet. Consistently refers to himself as the worlds best player and says he belongs with the greats. Ronaldo also said he's the best player in the last 20 years, he's far from humble.

When you speak that highly of yourself he should be doing great things, consistently. Yet two games so far, and a disappointing WC for him,makes people a bit cynical.

That's probably why he doesn't get sympathy.
 
VorZakone said:
I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him. The whole of social media are making fun of him, and I'm sure plenty of it is light-hearted, but it still seems that the guy is genuinely hated by a lot of people.
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He deserves every ounce of it after his Iceland comments.
 
LouisDanGaal said:
I think his technique must be impossible, remember di maria taking corners for united they all looked terrible but I always had the impression if he caught one right we would see the greatest delivery in the history of the game. Ronaldo could probably smash in free kicks like the Eric dier one but he is trying to repeat his one against Portsmouth or something.
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It's not really impossible, I'm feeling like he wants to put top spin on the ball so it dips rather than taking a dead ball free kick. The former is much harder, I feel like if he tried a straight dead ball free kick he would have IMO more chance of hitting the target than constantly hitting the wall.
 
Akash said:
I have seen lots of full Maradona games and I'm baffled as to why he's rated higher than Messi. Watched lots of videos of the other two and have the same feeling. It's a non contest. Messi shits all over them. When you have a player who's the best dribbler ever, the best passer ever AND one of the one of the best goalscorers ever then he quite clearly belong in a league of his own. Plus who here is old enough to have seen all those players?!? Doubt there's anyone. Most of them are going off the odd games here and there for Pele and Di Stefano.
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The combination of skills Messi has certainly do make him something special, but he's certainly not the best passer of all-time. If a thread was made asking the question, he shouldn't even make top 5, if knowledgeable posters contribute. I'm splitting hairs here, but Messi really doesn't need any hyperbole to further his status as a player, which the passing remark is.

Also, how far do you think you have to go back in time to find players who match or better him in this aspect? By the way your post is written, I'm guessing you feel it's literally impossible to find a better passer than Messi, which probably makes my question redundant?
 
Revan said:
Suarez is better than Ronaldo, based on the last season. In fact, I would say that he's better than Messi too.

Of course, I am not comparing their entire career, but at the moment, the cannibal is the best player in the world.

Putting Neymar ahead of Ron is ridiculous though.
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I will be honest that I haven't followed enough of Suarez last season apart from the goals he's been scoring to know who was better. But I do know that Suarez has a few more seasons to go to be considered better than Ronaldo. I know you are not comparing their entire career but I've seen many on here say Suarez is the better player (and iniesta!).
 
129104946 said:
Those stats are insane. Look how many less shots the others take than Ronaldo while scoring more, or similar goals. Suarez stats particular are very impressive.

5 more goals than Ronaldo, with 3 less penalties and almost half as many shots. Without having every single one of his team attacks funneled right to him.
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I think his fans are blind to this and the fact that RM set him up so many times per game with easy shots.

2014: 48 goals/225 shots (10 pks)
2013: 31 goals/216 shots (6pks)
2012: 34 goals/ 235 shots (6pks)
2011: 46 goals/264 shots (12pks)
2010: 40 goals/250 shots (8pks)
2009: 26 goals/211 shots( 4pks)

I always said this in other forums as well. There is a reason why Ronnie fails hard with Portugal and its because the team isn't superior to other teams and he won't have so many clean cut shots like he does for RM. Ronnie a terrific player, but he definitely is overrated just like lampard was with Chelsea/English fans.
 
Gbenger said:
Anyone else could have disagreed with you in the same way, even a full member. If you go through the last few pages of this thread, you'd find even more ridiculous opinions and poor comparisons of Ronaldo with lesser players done by full members and no one or even you is having a dig at them. Personally I have a similar view as you but i understand that people aren't the same and some folks see things quite differently, not necessarily because they are newbies. It's fine if you don't wanna debate further with that chap but there's no need to get so cocky about it.
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If I had read those posts, I would have said pretty much the exact same thing. The reason why I was discussing it with that FreeHerrera chap is because he had some equally ridiculous views about Zlatan. You may not think Ronaldo is the best or of may have a view that he is on the decline - both very reasonable points. But to say that he cannot run, his shooting is poor and that players like Modric and Bale are better than him the last 2 years is either wumming or you have not seen the guy play much the last couple of years. I was absolutely right when I said the forum's quality is not the same as earlier - partly because of this new system where newbies are not properly vetted before getting a chance to start posting in the mains.
 
NYC said:
I think his fans are blind to this and the fact that RM set him up so many times per game with easy shots.

2014: 48 goals/225 shots (10 pks)
2013: 31 goals/216 shots (6pks)
2012: 34 goals/ 235 shots (6pks)
2011: 46 goals/264 shots (12pks)
2010: 40 goals/250 shots (8pks)
2009: 26 goals/211 shots( 4pks)

I always said this in other forums as well. There is a reason why Ronnie fails hard with Portugal and its because the team isn't superior to other teams and he won't have so many clean cut shots like he does for RM. Ronnie a terrific player, but he definitely is overrated just like lampard was with Chelsea/English fans.
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What about Messi and him failing till the last world cup with Argentina, considering that Argentina are superior to Portugal in terms of the players they have. Messi must be overrated like Gerrard in that case, right?
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
I don't know what's funnier.

Thinking that Ronaldo is a level below Modric/Bale or that Bale is up there with Suarez/Neymar/Iniesta/Messi as the very best.
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It's not funny actually. It's preposterous. It's like people make mindless comments to get attention for some reason.
 
NK86 said:
What about Messi and him failing till the last world cup with Argentina, considering that Argentina are superior to Portugal in terms of the players they have. Messi must be overrated like Gerrard in that case, right?
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Messi won the Golden boot (I personally wouldn't have given it to Messi) and would of won the world cup if Higuain could finish.. Messi is overrated to, in being the best ever. However, generation wise, he's definitely better than anyone in his generation by a large margin...

Even in Madrid, I would consider Modric to be Madrid's best and most important player, with benzema being number 2.
 
NYC said:
Messi won the Golden boot (I personally wouldn't have given it to Messi) and would of won the world cup if Higuain could finish.. Messi is overrated to, in being the best ever. However, generation wise, he's definitely better than anyone in his generation by a large margin...

Even in Madrid, I would consider Modric to be Madrid's best and most important player, with benzema being number 2.
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It is because of hyperbole of those sorts which grinds with me. Honestly, I don't think you see enough of Madrid if you feel Benzema is their second most important player.
 
NYC said:
Messi won the Golden boot (I personally wouldn't have given it to Messi) and would of won the world cup if Higuain could finish.. Messi is overrated to, in being the best ever. However, generation wise, he's definitely better than anyone in his generation by a large margin...

Even in Madrid, I would consider Modric to be Madrid's best and most important player, with benzema being number 2.
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This cannot be real life.
 
NK86 said:
Are you insane? You are talking about a guy who has scored 50+ goals for so many seasons running as if he has turned into Djemba-Djemba. The absolute nonsense in that post hurt my head.

He cannot run, cannot dribble! Are you drunk when you see him play? Messi was anonymous against Atleti in the CL. I don't see you pointing that out. Messi has been far less than spectacular for Argentina bar the last year or so, but I don't see you pointing that out. There is bias and then there is the load of crap which you posted.

By one-trick pony you mean a guy who can shoot and score from varying distance, whose heading is second to none, whose pace is still spectacular and who still terrorizes defenses. I think you need to wobble your head before you post. God, the forum's quality has diminished!
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A lot of the caftards are teens or early 20's who know everything, they never saw fat Ronaldo on his prime or Ronaldinho. When Neymar wouldn't had a spot on the Brazilian national team a few decades ago tells us the quality of today's players and reason why Messi and Ronaldo dominate the Ballon d'or.
 
Ronaldo has been poor in this Euro as per the standard he has set earlier in the qualifiers and for Real last season. Personally I believe, his injury prior to the tournament and fatigue due to a hard, long season at Real are the reasons behind his poor performance so far. He is getting old gradually and for a Forward/Wide Forward who relies more on bursts of pace to get behind defenses it is getting really difficult for him to perform in a Tournament in summer after such a hard season with RM.
 
NYC said:
I think his fans are blind to this and the fact that RM set him up so many times per game with easy shots.

2014: 48 goals/225 shots (10 pks)
2013: 31 goals/216 shots (6pks)
2012: 34 goals/ 235 shots (6pks)
2011: 46 goals/264 shots (12pks)
2010: 40 goals/250 shots (8pks)
2009: 26 goals/211 shots( 4pks)

I always said this in other forums as well. There is a reason why Ronnie fails hard with Portugal and its because the team isn't superior to other teams and he won't have so many clean cut shots like he does for RM. Ronnie a terrific player, but he definitely is overrated just like lampard was with Chelsea/English fans.
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are these stats legit ? Wonder how many of those are shots from free kicks :wenger:
 
There are some posts in this thread that lack a bit of objectivity. It's perhaps the emotional football fans who expect Ronaldo to dazzle every time he plays.

It doesn't help him when he's selfish on the pitch and self obsessed off of it. Example being him taking the last penalty in CL final, arguably just to be able to take his shirt off and make it to the back pages. He would seem like a proper tit if Madrid lost and he didn't even get to take a penalty. But it worked out for him then.

With Portugal, he has a chance to come out as a Messiah even if he doesn't score but helps his team progress in the competition but he would rather shoot from improbable ranges. A player of his quality surely would understand that those shots are much better if they catch the opposition by surprise. Maybe try and slide a pass every once in a while when everyone expects him to shoot and close him down.

By his own standards he's been poor and believe me I respect the opinion of other posters, but c'mon saying Modric, Benzema, Bale, Iniesta etc. are better players is a bit ridiculous.
 
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are these stats legit ? Wonder how many of those are shots from free kicks :wenger:
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Probably quite a few from FKs I would imagine, however, in past few seasons, both Bale/James takes them too...

Also, for both CL runs modric is definitely madrid's best player.... I guess Benzema would be up for debate, but Modric isn't.
 
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