I thought the reptilian overlords wanted us to vote remain...
EU Referendum Results Thread | Leave have won, Cameron resigns
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Whoever prepared Boris' speech (both the written and the instructed tone) did well. His auditions for PM are over on that evidence no matter what we say or do here...
As well as increasing crime and sales of two-stripe Adidas.
Because the media which we rely on so much when it comes to elections isn't about finding the truth, it's about pushing an agenda and selling papers/getting clicks. The places people turn to for truth are the places most likely to sell them lies.
didn't it rise during the last economic crash across EU?
and as the markets across the EU have fallen even more then ours, i don't think people are gonna stop coming here looking for jobs.
Yeah there has been no subtlety to this.
"It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain
i really thought fear of losing your jobs would win, thats normally what wins elections.....
For those that missed it...
That wasn't really pushed with any great verocity though... lots of people just didn't really know what it meant for our actual economy and just kept going with this (false) £350million figure.
The whole Remain campaign was pretty shambolic overall in terms of its education peices.
Boris - PM
IDS - Chancellor
Gove - Foreign Sec
Farrage - Special minister in charge ofracism, xenophobia and brownshirts immigration
IDS - Chancellor
Gove - Foreign Sec
Farrage - Special minister in charge of
I was thinking more so to the cost per person of the last recession, it's too soon to tell if the current market conditions are going to continue long term.
I hate Johnson so much. A man so clearly out for himself... it's odious.
Might as well announce Trump as the new queen and it would hardly be that much worse.
Second Scottish referrendum
Even without Fromage that lineup depresses me. Dare I say I may even miss Cameron and Osborne.
Wow. Did not expect to wake up to this. Some comedy gold in the thread as always.
im not sure thats true in general the arguemnt did get across, overwhelmingly people on well paid jobs voted in, the argument just didnt hit home with those on low paid jobs, no job or retired. which in hindsight, was an obvious downfall of basing your argument on the economy as it stands.
No, these jobs are low paid because there are immigrants to do them. They can afford that, because they are not going to live their life in the UK but in a country where it's much cheaper to live. This kind of immigration (I'm not against immigration in general and not against immigrants at all, I don't blame them) will always drag down the wages towards Polish levels, but it won't drag the cost of living down, on the contrary. If you can't get Brits to do a job and you have only Brits to do them, you will have to pay more or make the job more attractive in another way.
you know what - that probably is not the worst news for Boris - disregard the scottish MP's and even Boris couldnt miss the open goal that facing Corbyn would present
Cameron should have pushed for 16-17 year olds to be allowed to vote. Would have won it.
Would it be fair to say that the greedy, selfish, monied middle have just had the kicking of their lives, decisively by the vulnerable and working poor they were so happy to treat with such brutal contempt, by electing Cameron's bandits in the first place (and arming them with that idiotic referendum promise in the process). Maybe not, but I'm sticking with it. Remain had the figures but lost the important maths: you can't threaten losses to people who have so little to lose. There's nothing more zero than zero hours and unaffordable housing is unaffordable regardless of how much so. And what's worse is that these things have little to do with the EU and those decisive voters will continue to suffer.
As for Cameron, he's just served us up the mother of all giant shit sandwiches and ducked out the tradesman's before the tasting.
Farrage has to be man of the year. For such a small, small nothing of a man to wreak such havoc is a remarkable achievement.
Grim reapings on those seeds we all helped sew for the foreseeable. It didn't have to be this way.
As for Cameron, he's just served us up the mother of all giant shit sandwiches and ducked out the tradesman's before the tasting.
Farrage has to be man of the year. For such a small, small nothing of a man to wreak such havoc is a remarkable achievement.
Grim reapings on those seeds we all helped sew for the foreseeable. It didn't have to be this way.
I said it last night, in terms of geopolitical impact and the fact this has been a career pet project Nigel fecking Farrage is now the most influential Brit of the 21st century.
This is day 1. Uncertainty and shock creates panic and pessimism. However ultimately the fundamentals bring a return to normality. However, the UK fundamentals have taken a hit. That's when you'll see. Can mark this post, and we'll come back to it in 6 months.
why the feck did so many welsh vote to leave, despite being solely propped up by the eu? do they not realise that when shit hits the fan london won't be looking out for them?
The only fair way to have done this vote is to have had a mini exam alongside your vote, with only votes counting for those who do well in said exam. That way, at least they could disregard the completely uneducated votes.
No it isn't. It's beeing 'debunked' by putting all kinds of immigration together. I don't mind immigration, but this kind of immigration only exists because of differences in living costs.
Frankly, I think it comes across quite stupid to call someone xenophobic just so you don't have to adress the arguments put forward.
I'd say it is part of why EU leaders want Britain out the door ASAP now the vote is confirmed; cut them away and then pressure the shit out of them.
It's bizarre that people have trusted someone who literally only declared his allegiance a couple of months ago.
If I could write the exam, it would be too hard for you.
Would likely hurt the tories in the GEs though, which is the most important thing.
Should have done it like Scottish referendum where vote in that only. Most are already registered anyway.
There's so many thick cnuts here.
Can we hold another referendum to ask if the public agree with the referendum outcome, because democracy.
According to Sky News last night Wales is the biggest per capita beneficiary of EU funding, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
It's crazy.
Really hating Cameron and Corbyn, right now.
Cameron for putting us in this situation by panicking over UKIP nicking a few Tory votes. Corbyn for barely trying to convince the voters of his party to vote remain.
Cameron for putting us in this situation by panicking over UKIP nicking a few Tory votes. Corbyn for barely trying to convince the voters of his party to vote remain.
feck sake, old people just fecked us royally in the bottom. Arseholes.
Dare I ask how the Pound Sterling is doing?
Dare I ask how the Pound Sterling is doing?
feck sake, old people just fecked us royally in the bottom. Arseholes.
Dare I ask how the Pound Sterling is doing?
Not that bad, rallied since markets opened. Currently at 1.37ish to the USD