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If only that was the poll.Maybe we think spending 100 million on the likes of kante, mahrez and payet would represent better value instead?
If only that was the poll.Maybe we think spending 100 million on the likes of kante, mahrez and payet would represent better value instead?
Be prepared to bow down to Madrid etc forever more then so.Maybe we think spending 100 million on the likes of kante, mahrez and payet would represent better value instead?
I am very aware of how Di Maria plays. He would never make it in United. The Premier League is not for him, and he's not good enough to be the main moderfecker. I feel Pogba will be the same, he will do fine, but it's not good enough to lead United to titles. Granted, very few are. I personally believe, the best bet is Bale.
I am very aware of how Di Maria plays. He would never make it in United. The Premier League is not for him, and he's not good enough to be the main moderfecker. I feel Pogba will be the same, he will do fine, but it's not good enough to lead United to titles. Granted, very few are. I personally believe, the best bet is Bale.
Point is I think the money could be spent a lot better than on one player.If only that was the poll.
How would you play Martial, Ibra, MIki Targaryan, Rooney, Payet and Mahrez in the same lineup (that is without counting Depay, Rashford, Mata, Lingard and Januzaj)? Especially considering that Mourinho doesn't rotate.Maybe we think spending 100 million on the likes of kante, mahrez and payet would represent better value instead?
This thread has the potential to be one of the greats, but I feel this transfer will be settled in the next couple of weeks.
Mourinho's too efficient with his signings to let this one drag on. I think if this isn't wrapped up in the next couple weeks, we will go for our backup target.
An interesting scenario though is if Real get Pogba, then surely that would mean an exit for one of their midfielders - possibly Kroos?
The point is the poll asks if you would want Pogba for £100mil, not an alternative that we may or may not get. There's no indication that this will be the end of our spending either.If only that was the poll.
Irony.Funny to see that guys on the Juventuz forum see their club as bigger than ours. We piss on clubs like Juventus tbf.
And where do you come to the conclusion that Kroos would want to come or Real are willing to sell?We could easily get matuidi AND Kroos for the same price we're planning on paying for pogba, I'd love pogba to come but the quoted price is stupid
Rooney would be a absolute mile away from any future united team meaning kante and Payet would easily get in. Admittedly mahrez is a stretch.How would you play Martial, Ibra, MIki Targaryan, Rooney, Payet and Mahrez in the same lineup (that is without counting Depay, Rashford, Mata, Lingard and Januzaj)? Especially considering that Mourinho doesn't rotate.
Getting better value for money is one of the reason why we are here. Signing Young instead of Silva/Mata, signing Hernandez instead of Aguero or Kagawa instead of Hazard. We need to get genuine world class players if we want to compete with the top dogs, not to get better value for money. Especially considering that we have a lot of money but not many top players.
Irony.
Pogba is a far better player than any of those. We also need to stop with this attitude of 'lets just sign a few random decent players' we need more than anything to build a team and when you look at Utd we have a talented squad but are just lacking a couple of world class players to push us to the next level. Pogba has all the attributes we need in midfield and so whatever the cost he should be our priority rather than taking this ridiculous 'value' approach.There is no value in the market anymore and the sooner everyone realises that thet better we will be. We have huge financial muscle its time we fecking show it and sign some genuine world beaters.Maybe we think spending 100 million on the likes of kante, mahrez and payet would represent better value instead?
so you think a midfield of matuidi, kante and schniderlin has enough creativity?Good lord cheer up ffs.
They are not 3 decent players they're 3 of the best players in the league. Payet is one of the best players in Europe right now and Kante was the leagues best midfielder last year.Pogba is a far better player than any of those. We also need to stop with this attitude of 'lets just sign a few random decent players' we need more than anything to build a team and when you look at Utd we have a talented squad but are just lacking a couple of world class players to push us to the next level. Pogba has all the attributes we need in midfield and so whatever the cost he should be our priority rather than taking this ridiculous 'value' approach.There is no value in the market anymore and the sooner everyone realises that thet better we will be. We have huge financial muscle its time we fecking show it and sign some genuine world beaters.
so you think a midfield of matuidi, kante and schniderlin has enough creativity?
Maybe not but I liked it and I wasn't aware of redcafe for those 5 as was new to the forum at the time of pedro.Pedro wasnt really a saga and it wont surely wont be in the top 5 - Thiago, Sneidjer, Vidal, Fabregas and Hazard.
There was a comment on there earlier in the thread about how United fans think its still 99. In other words, we think we are a big club because we beat them in 99.Funny to see that guys on the Juventuz forum see their club as bigger than ours. We piss on clubs like Juventus tbf.
Just wanted to see how fast I could get on their forum. Worked out great![]()
You really think we could get all three in the same window? And all of them for 100 mil?They are not 3 decent players they're 3 of the best players in the league. Payet is one of the best players in Europe right now and Kante was the leagues best midfielder last year.
And yet all of them are a level below Pogba and they havent proven it for more than one season. Its not just about signing good players, its thinking about how to build a team lineup that works for Mourinho, in a way that is balanced and effective. I would have loved Mahrez here but then we signed Mkhitaryan so the RW slot is sorted, Kante plays the same role as Schniderlin and Payet the same role as Rooney so all those signings would do is add to selection headaches and unbalance us as a team. Thats been one of the biggest failings of our recent transfer dealings...signing the players without knowing how they fit in the team. Pogba fits in the team immediately in a position we are most in need of strengthening while offering all the attributes we need.They are not 3 decent players they're 3 of the best players in the league. Payet is one of the best players in Europe right now and Kante was the leagues best midfielder last year.
Fair enough, i think that midfield is shockingly unbalanced and would probably rather take my chances on Schniderlin-Rooney-Carrick again. But id much prefer a Schniderlin-Rooney-Pogba midfield as that elevates us to the next level.Solid enough, sounds like a Mourinho CM to me.
All 3 have only had one good season. Payet would cost way too much as whu don't want to sell and is 29 so doing a massive bid just doesn't make sense and doesn't play in a position we need.They are not 3 decent players they're 3 of the best players in the league. Payet is one of the best players in Europe right now and Kante was the leagues best midfielder last year.
I don't understand? Are you saying the transfer will go ahead regardless?
We could easily get matuidi AND Kroos for the same price we're planning on paying for pogba, I'd love pogba to come but the quoted price is stupid
Whatever. I just thought of a few examples. It's clear a lot of you want to sign him for £100 million and that's fine, I just happen to think we can spend the money a bit better elsewhere. If we do sign him I hope he deliversAnd yet all of them are a level below Pogba and they havent proven it for more than one season. Its not just about signing good players, its thinking about how to build a team lineup that works for Mourinho, in a way that is balanced and effective. I would have loved Mahrez here but then we signed Mkhitaryan so the RW slot is sorted, Kante plays the same role as Schniderlin and Payet the same role as Rooney so all those signings would do is add to selection headaches and unbalance us as a team. Thats been one of the biggest failings of our recent transfer dealings...signing the players without knowing how they fit in the team. Pogba fits in the team immediately in a position we are most in need of strengthening while offering all the attributes we need.
One final point those 3 would cost over 100...
Payet- £50-60
Mahrez-£50
Kante-£20-30
Nice to see they have moved on.There was a comment on there earlier in the thread about how United fans think its still 99. In other words, we think we are a big club because we beat them in 99.
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While i dont disagree... hes going nowhere soon and Mourinho will get something out of him i thinkWhatever. I just thought of a few examples. It's clear a lot of you want to sign him for £100 million and that's fine, I just happen to think we can spend the money a bit better elsewhere. If we do sign him I hope he delivers
Best improvement we can make this summer is shipping out Rooney.
Priced out Real Madrid, never thought I'd see this day
£100m isn't so bad, no seriously - think about it. He is atleast in the talent class of Bale, arguably higher. Bale cost about £86m, if you factor in football transfer inflation and footballnomics which is a unique thing, especially in the PL, we are not overpaying.
Is he double the player that for example Sterling and David Luiz is? Yes, then he is also worth double the fee.
Stop trying to apply logic to footballnomics and transfers.
Fits with everything else we've heard so far. Real Madrid are interested but don't want to pay £100m+ for him.
So basically you plonk yourself in the middle and sing 'que sera, sera'...but at least have some lube stored just in case. I like the thinkingDon't feel sorry for anyone. People who get overexcited deserve what they get, as do negative contrarians who think it won't happen.
I don't understand? Are you saying the transfer will go ahead regardless?
Priced out Real Madrid, never thought I'd see this day
I feel the numbers being floated in the news are exaggerated. I do think Juve will sell this summer, and i think they and Raiola are trying to up his price. £100m is over the top, i think he will go for £60-70m, 80 at most. Only way we're getting him is if RM is not willing to fork up the cash.
Fair enough, i think that midfield is shockingly unbalanced and would probably rather take my chances on Schniderlin-Rooney-Carrick again. But id much prefer a Schniderlin-Rooney-Pogba midfield as that elevates us to the next level.