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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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Gasolin said:
For me, this is the most sensible news on this topic, from their Juventuz forum.
@Acquire Me, can you ask if we can handle this 15% fee or if negotiations are stalled?
It looks like it's a 10M EUR difference.
If lawyers are creative, they could amend the initial contract to reduce this fee before moving forward (it's a matter of net amount at the end) but I am not a football contract expert.
Anyway, let us know.

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OK guys, can we get serious for a moment here. i got a new message from my fratello in Turin, and im happy to say he bring us good news (for now). according to him, there is a clause in Pogbas contract that makes his former club earn 15% of his future sale. in this case, its United both as the former club and as the buying club, so no matter how much they pay to us, we need to give 15% back. and this is where the negotiations stalled. United (for now) isnt willing to go over 130M. thats a huge offer yes, but it will see them return 19.5M of that, so we would get less than 110M. we want atleast 120M going to us however, so United will have to offer over 140M for Paul, 142M in total to be precise. this way we will earn 120.7M and United will get 21.3M back. we also want to include bonuses in the deal, such as an extra 10M if Pogba wins the balon dor in the next 5 years and 5M if United wins the UCL in the next 3 years. United has no problem with the bonuses apparently, but they arent willing to go over 130M at the moment. they also have to pay provision to Raiola of 25M (5M per year during the next 5 years) so overall, even for them its too expensive at the moment.

on the other hand, we might be getting a United player, regardless of how the Pogba saga ends. you guys remember how i was telling you in the "Behind the curtains thread", how my fratello told me that Woodward was in Turin sometime in April? well, now we know which players were discussed back then. its Mata, Darmian and Depay. United offered Mata to us back then and they even tried to include him into the Pogba deal now, but the answer from Marotta (Allegri) is still the same as in April - "hes too lazy for Juve". Depay seems like a real possibility at the moment, Mourinho doesent count on him and Paratici really likes the player. United is willing to offer him on a discount, 15M price to us if we sell Pogba, otherwise we will have to pay the full price of 25M. as for Darmian, the answer from United is no. Mourinho counts on him and told Woodward to not sell him.

My fratello told me about Pjanic being a done deal 10 days before it happened, and he even told me about Vidal and Coman going to Bayern last summer, Padoin to Cagliari this summer, and deals like Pereyra to Napoli, Hernanes to Benfica and Benatia to us, which are all close to finalization
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:lol: He left on a free transfer but signed a deal giving us 15% of the future fee on top of what his agent got? Nice of him :D
 
One part of these reports I don't quite understand. How can we have not made Juve an offer but Real can't match us financially? Or do they not want to pay the wages?
 
JackXX said:
One part of these reports I don't quite understand. How can we have not made Juve an offer but Real can't match us financially? Or do they not want to pay the wages?
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Probably just the Raiola one. And he's the one shopping around initially, I suppose.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
A nominal tribunal fee could have been possible, it happens at point of transfer domestically for poached academy players but a FM style sell on fee is nonsense.
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Indeed, we already got the 800K GBP for that purpose. I don't know for the contract part. I agree it's nonsense but both clubs having been in talks initially after Pogba signed because he regretted his move., maybe we didn't get the player back, but we got this agreement? Just speculating here. I just want us to check the other side of the story and indeed, if true, it's not too far.
 
So if that dudes correct, Juve are happy to pocket 120m and we are happy to go up to 130m. Anything above the 120m comes back into our pocket anyway, so what difference does it make if the offer is 140m if 20m of that comes back to us? Our outgoing is still at 120m, is within what we are happy to pay.
 
Gasolin said:
Indeed, we already got the 800K GBP for that purpose. I don't know for the contract part. I agree it's nonsense but both clubs having been in talks initially after Pogba signed because he regretted his move., maybe we didn't get the player back, but we got this agreement? Just speculating here. I just want us to check the other side of the story and indeed, if true, it's not too far.
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It's not true, the whole thing is littered with holes.
 
Bubz27 said:
So if that dudes correct, Juve are happy to pocket 120m and we are happy to go up to 130m. Anything above the 120m comes back into our pocket anyway, so what difference does it make if the offer is 140m if 20m of that comes back to us? Our outgoing is still at 120m, is within what we are happy to pay.
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Depends. If it was like a financial instrument, I can see us sending out the net amount only (it would be a fictive notional amount exchange). But maybe rules in football are a bit particular in those cases and you need to show the cash first, before cashing in.
 
Gasolin said:
Indeed, we already got the 800K GBP for that purpose. I don't know for the contract part. I agree it's nonsense but both clubs having been in talks initially after Pogba signed because he regretted his move., maybe we didn't get the player back, but we got this agreement? Just speculating here. I just want us to check the other side of the story and indeed, if true, it's not too far.
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Nah you just get a fee for poached academy players to cover the cost of training them. United had no say in the transfer beyond that.
 
Gasolin said:
Depends. If it was like a financial instrument, I can see us sending out the net amount only (it would be a fictive notional amount exchange). But maybe rules in football are a bit particular in those cases and you need to show the cash first, before cashing in.
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I get that, but I really don't think us showing an extra 10m would be difficult.
 
Gasolin said:
Indeed, we already got the 800K GBP for that purpose. I don't know for the contract part. I agree it's nonsense but both clubs having been in talks initially after Pogba signed because he regretted his move., maybe we didn't get the player back, but we got this agreement? Just speculating here. I just want us to check the other side of the story and indeed, if true, it's not too far.
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Honestly, if the first time we're hearing of this clause is from the other forum, you can be pretty sure that its them trying to wind us up.

You really need to stop scouting that forum for information. They would be as "in the know" as any one of us, which really isn't saying much.
 
Bubz27 said:
I get that, but I really don't think us showing an extra 10m would be difficult.
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Indeed, maybe it's not a big deal. In any cases, if true, it means that things are close. As you said, we should be able to handle a 10M EUR difference.
 
Clique said:
Honestly, if the first time we're hearing of this clause is from the other forum, you can be pretty sure that its them trying to wind us up.

You really need to stop scouting that forum for information. They would be as "in the know" as any one of us, which really isn't saying much.
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Yeah sorry, I did delete the quote for now. I just thought it made a bit more sense than anything else, even though it's a wind up. I'll just enjoy the final ;).
 
Respect to Pogba for the concern he showed when Ronaldo went down injured...

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Renato Sanches looks a level above him from the tournament.
 
The thought of becoming the world's most expensive player seems to be playing on Pauls mind.
 
Lets pray Mourinho doesn't plan on playing him deep where France are today. 100mill lol :(
 
Kante should be on imo. Either play Pogba in his position or don't play him at all.
Has he been allowed into the box yet?
 
BennyBlanco said:
Lets pray Mourinho doesn't plan on playing him deep where France are today. 100mill lol :(
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Every single game people say that he isnt playing well. If you looked at this forum during games you would think we were signing Darron Gibson
 
Tiber said:
Every single game people say that he isnt playing well. If you looked at this forum during games you would think we were signing Darron Gibson
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Maybe, shockingly, people are holding an allegedly £100m player to higher standards than they might otherwise?
 
I hate how knee jerk this forum is. Opinions constantly change based on 45 minutes of a match.
 
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