According to Glaston, Alli and Kane performed poorly because of Rooney.
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Will start by saying this is in no way based on just the euros. But pogba probably wouldn't be rated at 50m even if he didn't have that whole situation with United or Raoila as manager. He needs a very specific role to get the best out of him, not quite a 10 but almost a free role as a box to box in a midfield 3 with the other 2 being the defensive players and passers. His best assets are his goal threat and creative thinking once he is in the attacking third. Pretty average in the first 2 thirds of the pitch though.
Now would I take him, even for 100m? Yeah, he improves us and Mourinho brought loads out of lampard and he can be similar to him. We would still need other midfielders though. Would probably just prefer Kante if I could choose one, not caring about the price, as he can transform a team in midfield with his energy and defensive nous.
Now would I take him, even for 100m? Yeah, he improves us and Mourinho brought loads out of lampard and he can be similar to him. We would still need other midfielders though. Would probably just prefer Kante if I could choose one, not caring about the price, as he can transform a team in midfield with his energy and defensive nous.
I get your point, but a 'not bad' for Griezemann?, he had an awesome Euros, best player in it for me.Out of all the top players who are rated at around £50- £100m, who has actually shown it in this tournament, absolutely none, yes Griezemann scored goals but he wasnt fantastic all the way through the tournament ,
Kane-shite,
Alli-not bad,
R sanches- not bad,
Martial-who knows as he didn't get a chance,
Griezemann-not bad,
Hamsik-not bad,
Gotze-meh,
Muller-meh,
Lewandowski-meh,
Kroos-pretty good,
Ronaldo-meh,
A Gomes-meh,
Sterling-,
Pogba-decent but nothing special,
Bale-not bad,
Ibra-meh,
Ozil-not bad,
I'm sure there's many many more but basically nobody has shown their worth or transfer fee during the euros, so to say pogba is shite or not worth the money is ridiculous as going by this tournament nobody is!
I wouldn't be surprised if we also get Matuidi, and play a midfield 3 of Matuidi, Pogba, and Schneiderlin.
I was pleased with his role today, it kept him away from the goal so he couldn't do anything to drive the price up.
makes sense. to Be fair he did fine in his role. Definitely was driven like a fiat today though, instead of the Ferrari he is
Many people were in doubt with that. I remember there were a lot of memes. But when Pogba was named, people thought he deserved it because he is one of the best centre mid alongisde Modric and Iniesta. So two different scenario.
Out of all the top players who are rated at around £50- £100m, who has actually shown it in this tournament, absolutely none, yes Griezemann scored goals but he wasnt fantastic all the way through the tournament ,
Kane-shite,
Alli-not bad,
R sanches- not bad,
Martial-who knows as he didn't get a chance,
Griezemann-not bad,
Hamsik-not bad,
Gotze-meh,
Muller-meh,
Lewandowski-meh,
Kroos-pretty good,
Ronaldo-meh,
A Gomes-meh,
Sterling-
Pogba-decent but nothing special,
Bale-not bad,
Ibra-meh,
Ozil-not bad,
I'm sure there's many many more but basically nobody has shown their worth or transfer fee during the euros, so to say pogba is shite or not worth the money is ridiculous as going by this tournament nobody is!
Bale and Griezmann had amazing tournaments imo. Both carried their teams at points and didn't go missing. Rest I agree.
McManaman was calling the match on ESPN today, and as it closed out, he got some digs in on Pogba. Singled him out for criticism and basically said he was overpriced and overrated. I enjoyed it
The SSN one announcing Real Madrid are out of the race. Pogba is being peer pressured into an important decision in his life and it's nice to see
Haven't watched enough of Pogba over the years, but he is a box-to-box type or more of an outright attacking midfielder?
He can do both roles well for me.
That international tournaments don't mean much. He played in his preferred position earlier on in the tournament and wasn't too hot, fair enough. To judge a 23 year old under a manager whos tactics were all over the shop is very harsh though. Sissoko was one of France's best players, which is further proof that their performances in these games don't mean much. He's average and has been playing in the Premier League for a while now, he's accustomed to the EPL and has done nothing to show he's anywhere near Pogba. If we were to sign players based on their international performances there wouldn't be many worth buying going by these Euros.
Pogba is being bought as believe it or not he is actually an immense footballer already, with the potential to go onto even further things. His marketability will only further lessen the hit our finances will take from his large fee. Playing shite as a DM in an under-performing France squad won't change any of that.
That's right. You could see Pogba was reluctant to attack and tentative when moving forward. I don't know why Deschamps chose to curtail the attacking impulse of his best attacking mid. Given the xi. that was chosen, I guess an argument could be made that Pogba is the best deep-lying option in midfield. But when you consider that Kante was also available to him, then the absurdity of Deschamps' tactics become perfectly self-evident.
Pogba is a #10 in midfield 3. Imagine what a disaster it'll be if Pogba comes to play deep midfield while Rooney takes up an advanced position as the 4th attacker. (#10!)
I know that beating Real Madrid and paying a world record fee for a transfer would the best thing eva (like eva, eva, eva..), because that's what football is all about: stupid transfers; but I hope Jose and Woody know what they are doing here. The guy is nowhere a good enough midfielder ready to dominate games or mark his stamp consistently. What we can expect is a great shot or ability to pull the rabbit out of the hat once in every 5 or 10 games. Not a midfielder, at least yet, who is going to elevate our midfield a notch or two.
It'll will the most underwhelming big money transfer in the history of big money transfers. Earlier they used to happen for genuine world class players; we are doing it to satisfy Woody's ego and to win whatever dick measuring contest we have been in with Madrid over the last three years.
It'll will the most underwhelming big money transfer in the history of big money transfers. Earlier they used to happen for genuine world class players; we are doing it to satisfy Woody's ego and to win whatever dick measuring contest we have been in with Madrid over the last three years.
Rooney has to become a 2nd striker, and Pogba behind him as a box to box player.
Someone has to cover for them, Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin (or Blind).
In some games, I think we will get rid of Rooney and use Mata or Herrera instead to help Pogba.
That would be my best guess.
Cheers bud! Great clip, Schneiderlin looks like the kid who always tried to hang out with the cool guys...
Poggys and Tonys reaction after he butts in on there convo
at least he is trying !Possibly you're guess is correct. But it seems too luxurious to me. There would be too much pressure on Pogba to fill a multitude of tactical requirements. I'd prefer Pogba to burst forward into space in possession and launch counterattacks. The space won't really be there if Rooney is stationed in the hole behind Zlatan. Of course nothing is certain and if Jose believes he can make that work, who am I to argue?
Hahahaha it's great. White guys ehCheers bud! Great clip, Schneiderlin looks like the kid who always tried to hang out with the cool guys...
Poggys and Tonys reaction after he butts in on there convo
Can we dock 20M for an insipid performance when it mattered in Euro finals
This is a transfer thread. Can we please stick to it, pages of debating his performance in Euros etc take it elsewhere.
We are not worthy of such amazing insight.
Quick, someone call Mourinho and tell him he's about to make a terrible mistake
If we buy I hope José has it in mind to play him as part of a midfield 3. He was wasted in that holding role last night.
Bid imminent today then lads?
Leaving for work but I'd love to come home amd see we've launched our bid.
Leaving for work but I'd love to come home amd see we've launched our bid.
Nah he was rubbish last night
Di Marzio will be the first to report any real bids. This transfer saga is right in his wheelhouse. Unless it's someone like Andy Burton from the english press, Di Marzio's twitter should now be on 24/7 pogba watch.
Pogba is barely over the game yesterday. I reckon any talks will be resuming from tomorrow.
He wasn't rubbish last night, just not suited to the role, but overall had an underwhelming tournament. But I have watched him for 4 years and I will be over the moon if we manage to sign him. Yes, we will be overpaying, but is it the first time a big club is paying over the odds for top talent? He has the quality to elevate us a notch, and everyone knows it, opposition fans are worried because they know how good he is. I really hope we can pull this off.
Still think there is a solid chance he will stay at Juve.
It's too silent om him right now for my liking.
I was thinking "please don't get injured please don't get injured".
You're too pessimistic here. Trust the karma!
It's looking positive but I'm not going to believe it until a bid is accepted. Like I said previously I think the longer this goes on for the less likely it is that he signs.
He's just been at a major international tournament...
I wouldn't even expect to hear anything more today personally.
Agreed. As I have said before, I ain't believing this is happening until I see him signing the papers on MUTV. We might have the financial muscle to do this, does Pogba really want to come though...? Still not convinced.
I'm sure we will hear a bunch of BS from the usual suspects, SUN etc.
I would love him at Utd but with that kinda money touted, you could buy 3-4 top class players. It'd be incredibly stupid to overpay like this.
Ai... Glaston again successfully ruining a thread and obsessing about United's business.