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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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I am actually baffled by some of the skepticism here on whether this will happen or makes senses for Pog/Juve.

Some of you seem beyond capable of crunching the numbers and seeing the potential economic impact of this deal.

Focusing purely on the financial aspects and ignoring the other massive attractions (fame, prestige, challenge and reach of the PL, Mourinho, ties with area, etc.), there is no way on earth Pogba doesn't want this deal.

He will make significantly more money at United than Juve over the next few years. We will pay him more than Juve can match, and his commercial endorsements will become much more lucrative as the posterboy of a true megaclub.

Our desire to get this deal done appears to be strong. That is all the evidence I need to believe this is very likely to be done.
 
R0nald0 said:
So funny how people on here comparing him to Gerrard as a negative - top 5 ever premier league midfielder! If he becomes as good as Gerrard then we'll have an absolute bargain.
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This is a negative because Gerrard, albeit his very high playing level, was one of the main reasons of the Liverpool's underachieving in the last years. He required a team to be built around him (like in 2008/09) and he hasn't provided consistent world-class performances to justify that decision. When he was playing well, Liverpool won, when he wasn't, the whole team struggled because Gerrard was the focal point of that team.

Also, Alonso was better than him and more influential in his time in Liverpool and I won't say that Gerrard is top-5:
Scholes, Keane, Vieira are on a different level to him
Toure's performances were perhaps closest to Gerrard's in style, but he was better at his peak
And Alonso - even if he hadn't spent that long in EPL, his departure meant the end of all hope for Liverpool's title ambitions

Plus there is Lampard, and those two are very hard to separate (but Lampard's credentials in the league probably should give him the edge even if Gerrard was definitely more talented)
 
One of my best mates is from Turin, he's close friends with Del Piero. Neither of them live there anymore. He says it's a bit shit. That's all you need to know.
 
simonhch said:
One of my best mates is from Turin, he's close friends with Del Piero. Neither of them live there anymore. He says it's a bit shit. That's all you need to know.
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I mean Del Piero only did stay there for like 20 years. Not a big deal at all.
 
KingMinger22 said:
No way on earth. Manchester has way, way more to offer than the economic wasteland that is Turin.

You clearly do not know what you are talking about.
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It seems like a mistake to get into an argument with the italians visa vi which of us have the most attractive city. Need to pick our fights a little better than that. : )
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Great player but not a great central midfielder. Liverpool's best season with Gerrard came when he was played as a forward.
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Yeah Gerrard never had the discipline to play midfield, to be fair he probably never should have been played there considering how good he was further forward.

For United to get the best out of Pogba we would have to do similar. I think he needs a free role with two midfielders behind him.
 
simonhch said:
One of my best mates is from Turin, he's close friends with Del Piero. Neither of them live there anymore. He says it's a bit shit. That's all you need to know.
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Is Turin really that bad? I been to italy but never to Turin.
 
stevoc said:
Yeah Gerrard never had the discipline to play midfield, to be fair he probably never should have been played there considering how good he was further forward.

For United to get the best out of Pogba we would have to do similar. I think he needs a free role with two midfielders behind him.
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No, i think pogba's best as a number 8. The problem with playing Gerrard there was always that his main strength was driving runs when an opportunity presented itself. If you're part of a midfield two and you suddenly disappear up front then that leaves your mate very exposed. I dont think Pogba is quite as gung ho as gerrard was. Pogba has better possession stats as well despite creating and scoring as much which would suggest he's a more consistent passer of the ball.
 
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Scholsey2004 said:
No, i think pogba's best as a number 8. The problem with playing Gerrard there was always that his main strength was driving runs when an opportunity presented itself. If you're part of a midfield two and you suddenly disappear up front then that leaves your mate very exposed. I dont think Pogba is quite as gung ho as gerrard was. Pogba has better possession stats as well despite creating and scoring as much which would suggest he's a more consistent passer of the ball.
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Personally i'm not convinced he can play to his full potential in a midfield two, hes been good there for Juve when i've watched him but i think he's capable of more. Would much rather have him further forward and concentrating on creating and have others do the donkey work in midfield. But i could be wrong of course, will be interesting to see where Jose plays him if he does sign.
 
I hope he comes to OT this summer, but i wonder if it will just go the same way as Sergio Ramos, stays with his current club on an improved contract.
 
ZAGREB RED said:
I hope he comes to OT this summer, but i wonder if it will just go the same way as Sergio Ramos, stays with his current club on an improved contract.
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There is no way on earth that Juve would pay him anything close to what we are offering him. Deals done.



@Scholsey2004 i see,.... had no idea that was Turin.
 
ZAGREB RED said:
I hope he comes to OT this summer, but i wonder if it will just go the same way as Sergio Ramos, stays with his current club on an improved contract.
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I think the situation is a bit different than Ramos because all he wanted was a new contract. I believe Pogba genuinely wants a new challenge, not just a bumper contract, but if say Madrid or barca were willing to come in a year later I think he wouldn't mind waiting at Juve with a bumper contract rather than moving to us which rules out any move for a few years.
 
ZAGREB RED said:
I hope he comes to OT this summer, but i wonder if it will just go the same way as Sergio Ramos, stays with his current club on an improved contract.
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Except Juventus aint no Madrid and Pogba aint no Juventus legend and finally Italy isnt his home nation.
 
Deal is done, Juve can't match the wages, and they're not going to accept a much lower bid from Real next summer. They'll know it's time to cash in now, and they will. Not worried.
 
stevoc said:
Personally i'm not convinced he can play to his full potential in a midfield two, hes been good there for Juve when i've watched him but i think he's capable of more. Would much rather have him further forward and concentrating on creating and have others do the donkey work in midfield. But i could be wrong of course, will be interesting to see where Jose plays him if he does sign.
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Its probably a moot point anyway since rooney will almost certainly get played at number 10. Whether thats a good thing is another story but Mourinho seems to value the image that comes with club stalwarts if terry is anything to go by. He kept him in the team long past his best.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Great player but not a great central midfielder. Liverpool's best season with Gerrard came when he was played as a forward.
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I think he was actually at his best when he spent a season on the right side of midfield.
 
Judas said:
Deal is done, Juve can't match the wages, and they're not going to accept a much lower bid from Real next summer. They'll know it's time to cash in now, and they will. Not worried.
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Exactly, if they havent already accepted the bid they soon will.
The bid is simply too good to turn down for all parties.
 
Judas said:
Deal is done, Juve can't match the wages, and they're not going to accept a much lower bid from Real next summer. They'll know it's time to cash in now, and they will. Not worried.
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Theres two problems with that. The first is that Juventus dont want to be viewed as a feeder club and the size of the numbers being talked about have raised a lot of public awareness of this. Imagine how strong it would make them look as an institution if they turned down a £100m bid for a player. The second is that we really dont know whether he actually wants to come back. He clearly wasnt happy with the clubs treatment of him at the time (rightly or wrongly) and has said as much on several occasions.
 
Sunny Jim said:
That FSW's first season?
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Might have been. It was definitely during his tenure anyway, and Masch and Alonso played centrally with Gerrard on the 'right'. Personal best season, although I don't remember all the details of it.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Theres two problems with that. The first is that Juventus dont want to be viewed as a feeder club and the size of the numbers being talked about have raised a lot of public awareness of this. Imagine how strong it would make them look as an institution if they turned down a £100m bid for a player. The second is that we really dont know whether he actually wants to come back. He clearly wasnt happy with the clubs treatment of him at the time (rightly or wrongly) and has said as much on several occasions.
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No one is going to view them as a feeder club. In that case shouldnt we be worried to look like a feeder club for Madrid? Becks, RVN and Ronaldo. Also it looks like you have employed selective reading/listening. He did say he wasnt treated great and rightly so but he also said he loves the club, he still has friends here and would one day like to return here.
 
If he is best in a Lampard/Gerrard type role as the most advanced of a midfield three, then great - we know this type of player can thrive in the PL and under Mourinho, and it will hopefully mean the phasing out of Rooney. Our offensive game will be transformed.

It would still mean, however, we're lacking a bit of composure in the midfield- a fit, younger Schweinsteiger would be ideal, but unfortunately that's not what we've got. Hard to know what our best options would be right now for a midfield two behind Pogba, there are serious doubts surrounding all our options there. Would be great to see TFM break through in that area. For now perhaps Schneiderlin - Blind?
 
Amongst everything, it always makes me laugh that some people think he isn't good enough. Like Jose wouldn't have done this research. I don't think Jose and his team would've scouted him from YouTube or the Euros. They'll know what they are buying, and for 100m I'd expect them to be pretty confident of what they're buying, being successful.

Is he worth the huge fee? Doesn't matter, it's what we're willing to pay and what Juve are willing to sell him at, that matters.
 
RaptorSlo said:
Still doesn't answer the main doubt: Does he have the quality of a 100mil player? His value will only increase if he is as good as he's hyped to be.
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Like that video suggests, the £100m is not "being" paid for his talent. It's for the while package
 
Ah now I understand all of the Gerrard comparisons - apologies for my previous post.

Pogba is definitely best with two midfielders sitting deeper than him.

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Scholsey2004 said:
Its probably a moot point anyway since rooney will almost certainly get played at number 10. Whether thats a good thing is another story but Mourinho seems to value the image that comes with club stalwarts if terry is anything to go by. He kept him in the team long past his best.
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On the other hand he benched Casillas, so there's hope.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Its probably a moot point anyway since rooney will almost certainly get played at number 10. Whether thats a good thing is another story but Mourinho seems to value the image that comes with club stalwarts if terry is anything to go by. He kept him in the team long past his best.
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He did actually bench Terry when he wasn't playing well and he has also dropped other big stars which why there was player unrest at Real when he dropped players there.

I sure he will get the best out of him if we are spending that much and if that is at the expense of Rooney I'm sure he'll do it. We just have to sign him first to find out.
 
On the price... 100m sure does sound a lot. But as much as it hurts us to admit, football is a business now. Employees of any business have a value - what we normally refer to as a wage. The more skills you bring to a company - the higher your wage. The 100m is purely to buy him out of his contract which i am not aware happens in any other world other than football.
The thought of handing over 100m sends shivers down our spines, but then so did the thought of 15m being thrown around by real Betis for Denilson many years ago.
There is so much money floating around in the game at the moment, specifically in England then in 5 years time... 100m will be the new 30m. I dont know where it will end but atleast the money is being spent on the football club... which semi-justifies inflated ticket prices, new shirts EVERY year (used to be every other)
We fans give enough money over to the club.... about time they used it on proper players and not the Bebe, Diouff's and for those old enough to remember... Greame Tomlinsons of this world.
 
bratteloni said:
Or you could temporarily stop visiting it.
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I am a United fan following this saga like anyone else so naturally I'm going to visit the thread if it's being bumbed every few seconds. Coming in to see posters going completely off topic and other shite isn't cool.
 
Shark said:
I am a United fan following this saga like anyone else so naturally I'm going to visit the thread if it's being bumbed every few seconds. Coming in to see posters going completely off topic and other shite isn't cool.
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Agree with this.
 
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