So Pogba was playing for free at Juve?
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Its so obvious the Pogba deal is done. Juve are spending all of the Pogba money before the deal is announced. It will soften the blow and allow them to negotiate reasonable deals without teams pushing up the price knowing they have funds to spend. I'd expect the deal to be announced within the next week or two when Pogba returns from holiday. A lot of people must be scarred from past muppet sagas because this is as obvious as it gets. All of the most reputable journos have chimed in and a few have said we have agreed to terms. Instincts people. Done dealio.
Edit: Not to mention the Madrid fiasco. They have been covering their tracks all over the place and using their connections in the media to make it seem like they didn't want him. Imo we outbid them and he also chose us. Perez couldn't take the rejection. Very similar to their response to the De Gea ordeal, only this time they did everything behind the curtains.
Edit: Not to mention the Madrid fiasco. They have been covering their tracks all over the place and using their connections in the media to make it seem like they didn't want him. Imo we outbid them and he also chose us. Perez couldn't take the rejection. Very similar to their response to the De Gea ordeal, only this time they did everything behind the curtains.
I'm convinced this is what's happening.
Didn't Tottenham spend the Bale money 1st then sell him to Real Madrid too?
boy thats alot of coin being spent if they keep pogba. im sure they would have to give him a new deal which would stretch their resources even more, and Higgy's pay package wont be cheap
Calm down, some haters thought it'd be fun to ridicule me with that tagline because I was right one a-time to a-many for them. I haven't said anything about this, I focus mainly on football forensics, tactics, predictions and analysises rather than transfers. Guessing just like everyone in this case.
Higuain is a huge name in the serie a, he's been kezmanning that league.
If they sell Bonucci to city that would raise a lot of funds. 
So them paying Higuain's release clause is holding up the deal how?
There's no way Juventus are spending all that money without a major sale. I reckon this is as good as done.
The league isnt the issue. They can win that blind folded. Its the CL they want and only thing i could see them trying to use to stop pogba from leaving
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work this one out lads. Juve are not this rich! They're spending a fair amount as it is by the looks of things, but if this Higuain rumour is true (It looks like it is), then that is a huge red flag. When's the last time Juve have been willing to potentially spend as much as 75-90 Million Euros plus wage on top of it for one player?
Pogba is not going to be convinced to stay now, Juve are already planning for life without him. This wouldn't be happening if he wasn't leaving, it's insane spending, a chump like fecking Zaza departing isn't financing this outlay. Pogba is set to become the most expensive player of all time, with a massive wage and his agent pocketing 20% of the transfer fee. This is done, no doubt about it.
Pogba is not going to be convinced to stay now, Juve are already planning for life without him. This wouldn't be happening if he wasn't leaving, it's insane spending, a chump like fecking Zaza departing isn't financing this outlay. Pogba is set to become the most expensive player of all time, with a massive wage and his agent pocketing 20% of the transfer fee. This is done, no doubt about it.
Have we even made a bid yet?
Bonucci is italian, he will stay at Juve. He will renew for a higher salary.If they sell Bonucci to city that would raise a lot of funds.
By selling pogba not only juve get to buy higuain but also renew important contracts of other players like bonucci.
Saying that Juventus would have a wage issue if Higuain is signed and Pogba/Bonucci stay.
Sorry
it's likely pogba is not thinking as far ahead as all those misses in the past three finals, maybe even unaware of the Copa America crap and just seeing what he did everyday in the serie a and thinking he will replicate that in the cl. Players nowadays are not necessarily smart on footballing matters as ex player pundits are showcasing day by day.
Hopefully that is the case, its definitely most likely. Still there is a tiny concern they could cash in on Bonucci instead.
Makes sense. From the knock-on effect too. If Higuain comes in as top earner, a couple of players might be knocking on the door enquiring about their wages, perhaps led by Pogba.
Yeah, there's a certain amount of logic to spending it before people realise you've had a windfall and up their prices.
With defenders lasting longer in Italy and with them knowing that Pogba will at some point leave, they have two choices. One is to lose both players within the next 2 years or lose Pogba and retain a great Italian defender for potentially the next 6+ years. I don't think it's a tough choice between the two and I agree with Maradonna10. It would make a lot of sense. Even without Pogba, they are in good shape.
I think you're on to something. Although I don't think Raiola had a 20% stake in him whilst he was at United.
Everyone knew Pogba was a sure a thing and Raiola could have used Pogba's playing time frustrations to get a slice of the pie. He was offered a new contract by SAF but by then his mind could already have been made up. Raiola moved him to a slower, less wearing league knowing that Pogba would be able to show his ability then get a big money move a few years later to one of the bigger clubs.
You have to think the likes of Real, Barca and Bayern would have had Pogba on a free after United as well as a host of other clubs in Germany and Spain, but he ended up at Juve with a contract that ensured Raiola 20%. Astute management from Raiola to ensure he gets the most value from his stake in Pogba.
well lets hope our Pogba is a smart chap and can see past a few Serie A goals.
Its all quite logical. Juve probably tried to get him for cheaper, but Napoli demanded the release clause. Remember the Arsenal links to Higuain the other day? My guess is that was leaked in order to push Juve to pay the release clause. Juve have also signed Benatia and been linked to a few others I believe. A deal as big as the Pogba deal takes time, especially since the player is on holiday and was playing for France just a few days ago. Rather than wait around for the money to arrive, Juve went out and spent it. Getting deals done and setting up the team for next year. Its just good business.
Napoli owner / president has said its a hoax. Juve will have to pay the clause i think.
Got to feel for Arsenal fans. Higuain is their Vidal.
That's what I'm wary of. Benatia replacing Bonucci...
Like someone said though, surely those other clubs can figure that out if we can?
In Premier league third party ownership os not allowed. So that is false. United owned pogba. It may have been when he went to juve that Raiola might have inserted like that.
I've just edited my post to include that Raiola wouldn't have had a stake in Pogba whilst he was at United. Hence moving him and getting a stake.
He is replacing Barzagli who is 35 and will retire at end of season.
Have you ever seen a great italian player leave italy for england ? All rumours about De rossi and pirlo and gattuso down the years. Yet they never leave. He wants more money he will get it.
He's replacing the 35 year old Barzagli.
Thanks for saving me the effort of repeating all my posts in this thread all along
The fact Juve are spunking cash all over the place only means one thing. Pogba is coming home. One or two more signings means this summer will be the most magnificent transfer window ever. Juve are not doing too badly either. Win, win for all parties.Di marzio saying Juve have financial resources to sign higuain without selling pogba.
.things are starting to click... for Juve.Di marzio saying Juve have financial resources to sign higuain without selling pogba
I said this.
I dont believe it will happen, just putting it out there if it does.
Mac the knife?
No. Allthough. it was another forum not twitter.
true but equally juventus can say nothing is decided so we can't spend exorbitant amounts on a player when we simply don't know if we'll have the money. Consider how much more players cost when we buy them because the seller always knows for a fact that we can afford it.
Christ really? Be a real statement from them if trueDi marzio saying Juve have financial resources to sign higuain without selling pogba
Di marzio saying Juve have financial resources to sign higuain without selling pogba
Maybe if EXOR helps them fund the deal.
Things have got even more interesting now.