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I never said that Pogba is more important then Bonucci (one i). All I am saying is that it makes more sense selling him for 43m rather then Pogba for lets say 60-70m. The former is 29 years old and Juventus got their defence covered both in terms of experience (Barzagli, Benatia, Chiellini and Evra) and youths (Romagna and Rugani). Pogba is still young, he courted by United and if he has another great season with Juventus than a bidding war with Real may occur.
Its probably Mourinho when he talked about getting this done early and this would NOT be a last minute end of the transfer window deal. Its made people impatient to be fair.
I also did think that we would of heard something this week.
Sorry I see now what you were getting at. But again every transfer has these issues, so no different imo just because it is for much more money.
It's like a girl-guy waiting for each other to make a move after a fight.Pogba says, Juve would have to agree a fee before I leave.
Juve says, Pogba would have to ask for a transfer before we can discuss a fee.
Huh? Haha they shouldn't be emotionally invested in a player that will hugely improve the team they obviously love? Fair enough lad
This is taking far too long and is too big a story for us to pull this off. It's another one of those transfer sagas that'll end in tears for those emotionally invested.
You're not catching on are you. You don't get emotionally invested in a transfer that has not taken place yet. Once they player is ours, then you can get excited.
End in a new contract for Pogba or Real Madrid just offer €90m and speedily get it done.
Its only a saga because the thread is long. It could be a very cut and dry situation between the clubs.
NFL is a completely different ball game.
You see what I did there?!
A man of my heart!
Wouldn't surprise me.
My facebook has been flooded daily for the last 2 weeks with articles about Pogba from the guardian or motd. I can't escape this story
I find it interesting that Mino has given us a timeline to complete a deal that he himself is seemingly incharge of completing
Reading the Caf every summer you realize why top negotiators like Raiola get paid so much and why it is justified. Zero bottle and gameness in most on here.
Unnecessary dig at our Danny.
I am catching on hero but your logic is dumb. One can't get excited/invested because the transfer hasn't happened yet? Eh? In the same way would you say journalists shouldn't continue to report on the progress and should only report on it once it's done? People will get excited by rumours, it's human nature let it happen without bringing the negativity on them. (My last post btw)
I hope you're not questioning my shit sources.
...this is going to go on all through the summer isn't it....
who me , never
No. As repeated a thousand times The manager himself said he doesnt want to sign a player late in the window. If Juve/pogba stall we will move along and probably sign Gomes
Your original post still stands imo. If MUFC get Mino to make an offer which is rejected then i'd assume the content of your link would mean that Mino either wants MUFC to make another bid straight away that would force the move or give up and end the speculation.
Well yes, its not rocket science. If you haven't a bought a player, then its really fecking dumb to get excited about it as if you have, because they could theoreticaly not come. Then whose logic is dumb ? You clearly aren't up to snuff on these matters so best to bow out now.
I think people are getting excited about the prospect of potentially having him back on our books, not celebrating like we have signed him. There might be some whose posts come across like that, but surely getting excited about something potentially hugely beneficial to the club is human nature?
You may be a hardened veteran of muppet season and seen it all but a lot of us aren't and are just enjoying the ride (or we should be).
I'm on the side that this is happening, bar a U-turn from Real.
You don't need to be a "hardened veteran" to know not to count your chickens.
But he wasn't really saying that, he was telling people that we shouldn't be excited about the potential transfer, until the transfer is done and official.
It's like being told as a kid that you 'might' be getting an amazing present that you have wanted for a long time, however you can't get excited about it because it might not happen.
Last post on this, getting off topic a bit. Apologies.
I get that bit, but that's also where mass disappointment takes over once something doesn't happen, which if you've been here over the past decade is extremely often. If you get excited about the idea of buying a player you are also setting yourself up for the risk of massive disappointment when it inevitably doesn't happen. If you approach things with a moderate and sensible attitude that it will happen once there is official confirmation, then you are hedging out the risk of disappointment, and can actually get excited once its a done deal. You literally can't lose if you do the latter.
I don't think his point was originally about people getting excited. That's fine. It's when people go the other way and start getting mopey for no reason because the transfer hasn't been completed relative to some arbitrary timeline they have in their mind. "My inner muppet is dying, I think if this isn't done by Friday then blah blah blah" kinda thing
I can understand that logic, that is completely reasonable. I might have taken the wrong meaning to your post my friend.
That's a bit harsh and strictly not true. Yeah of course you would be stupid to start buying shirts and getting tattoos of players that haven't signed. But if there were rumours of a big name coming to United, you would not be human if you did not get excited at the prospect of them coming to the club. Look at the furore around Mourinho and Ibra LONG BEFORE they signed. And they technically could have had an 11th hour change of heart. Nearly everyone was 'excited' about them coming to United, long before they actually signed.
And therein lies the problem. It's not human to do so, as there are humans who don't get particularly excited and those who do. Its a choice, and when you look back at all the big transfers that were supposed to happen but didn't, not a particularly wise one. There is literally no loss by waiting until a player is presented before letting the excitement out, as opposed to getting excited about something that based on historical precedent, isn't likely to happen.
NFL is a completely different ball game.
You see what I did there?!
Yeah, I get that. Just meant that when you look at the contracts for the upper echelon of pro athletes, lunacy is the best word to describe them in general. Why do we not care about paying another team 100 million pounds just for the rights to the player and then turn around shake our heads at how much we pay the player?
Why has this thread turned into playground psychology?
(And noone has mentioned Pavlov's dogs yet)
(And noone has mentioned Pavlov's dogs yet)
I don't get why this is a problem?? You're saying it's not human to do so but then you're saying some people do and some people don't?? Fine you may be in the not excited camp, but there are many who would be. Isn't that the whole point of all these speculation threads??
And you're telling me you were completely indifferent when news of Mourinho and Ibrahimovic first broke?? The threads are full of fans getting completely excited at the prospect of them coming to United, which sorry, is a perfectly normal human reaction. Personally I'm very excited at the prospect of Pogba re-joining United but I'm also fully mindful of the fact that it may never happen.
At the end of the day, does it really matter?
Ultimately we're just discussing the pros and cons of it. I laid out the case of why its a choice and why that choice is a bad idea. There is no golden rule of transfers that mandates people behave like hysterical teenagers each time United are interested in signing someone.
Because transfer fees don't directly relate to wages. Blow the transfer record out of the water and the ongoing impact of that is inflation to future transfers of a similar level, possibly a lift across the board but not necessarily and doesn't have any impact on existing squad members.
Pay Pogba £450k per week and every single contract negotiation for every single player suddenly gets a lot more expensive.
This thread has run out of steam.
Because there's no news and there likely won't be any until there's something conclusive from the player, agent, or clubs.
Feck lads, absolutely unreal in here. Let's just temper expectations: be excited, absolutely. I for one love the muppet banter in here during transfer season, but getting emotional is what's unacceptable and frankly tedious. One can certainly allow themselves to get excited over a transfer, but let's remember that no one wants to read mopey, hysterical, depressing shite, especially when there's no news for a few days. I imagine it's somewhat hypocritical of me to say this after writing an essay, but sometimes our opinions are best kept to ourselves.
I may have had a few too many.
I may have had a few too many.