Ahhhh yes , them wert'days!!!
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The new informations are just new moves in the poker between Juve, United, Real and Raiola/Pogba. The transfer ain't happening soon.
Yeah but personally I'd still go with Pogba and there's a reason the club share that sentiment
The amount paid for martial was soon forgotten.
I can't help feel that we are close, but this is as far as we get. I think Real will come in and he'll be off to there in a heartbeat.
Koke isn't open to moving from Atletico, Pogba apparently is.
And now we're talking about £100m for Koke? It was 70m earlier. 70m wouldn't get you Koke.
It wouldn't be the first time the club got a marquee transfer wrong.
Koke was an example, you can assume Saul for cheaper.
It's funny how the Glazers, who have for years been criticised for not sending enough, are now willing to spend £100m of their money on a player, yet there are fans who are so over-protective of money that will never benefit them in any way whatsoever, that they're happy to see us not strengthen our team just to save that money. I find the whole idea of it ludicrous.
Nowhere near the same marketability, so it would be a more costly transfer than Pogba. What do you want to discuss really? We have heard your wishes and wants, and they have been countered.
I don't think he'll stay with us forever, he will at some point want to sample Spanish football.
If he'd stayed here, it would be close to him wanting that move. So for me, we pay big bucks now, get a better period in Pogba's career, then, even bigger bucks when he moves on. Money shouldn't be an issue to anyone here.
If he'd stayed here, it would be close to him wanting that move. So for me, we pay big bucks now, get a better period in Pogba's career, then, even bigger bucks when he moves on. Money shouldn't be an issue to anyone here.
Don't think there are many if any players out there with the technical skills matched with the physique of Pogba though. He is such a sought after 0layer because of having to have 2 players (a physical presence and a technical player) he combines them both into one leaving another spot free
Agreed, I want us to win the thrifty cup!
Bayern wouldn't for Muller.
I think some people would rather finish 5th then challenge for a title just so we don't have a little bit of embarrassment from opposing fans or the media over the fee's we have to pay.
The club is run buy businessmen who make money, they will have assest the risk and deemed it acceptable. People just don't see the big picture.
Juve CEO says they won't meet the release for Higuain according to Sky.
The price is completely irrelevant and none of us have any reason to care about it in the slightest.
Aye, that was yesterday's news.
Not one for attention is she that one?
My bad, haven't been following too much the past few days.
Ahhhh yes , them wert'days!!!
I remember seeing United linked to Baggio and Stoichkov on those pages.
That's a good point, it's probably why Mourinho values him so highly as well. He seems very suited to the PL as well, and obviously has familiarity with England. Bah, you're re-igniting my Pogba muppet now.
It was mainly the combination of skills I was referring to.
However, unfortunately we are in a day and age of football where running for 90 minutes is quite a sought after quality in a footballer.
Thrifty times thrifty times Man United!
Who said anything about saving the money? It could be better allocated elsewhere - I gave 3 name earlier on.
What is this marketability point? Can you slap a number on how much more 'marketable' Pogba is to Saul? Can you justify the ~40-50m GPB cost on Pogba from it even if Saul has been just as good (if not more consistent)? Do we get shirt sales from players or is it already encompassed in our Adidas 1bn USD sponsorship deal? If we do, every United shirt sale with Pogba on the back wouldn't even come close to helping recoup the transfer fee alone.
Exactly. But we still dilly dallied about with it and fell short in attack at season's start.
Of course its relevant. We may be a rich club but this isn't Championship Manager.
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Don't know if anybody has suggested this, but I wonder if there's any possibility that we've basically got it tied up and we're waiting for the pound to recover a bit. It's already pulled up from last week's 5-year-low levels, and it could easily drift back towards its pre-brexit levels over the next few weeks, while it's unlikely to fall more barring anything very unexpected.
Sounds a bit silly, but at the prices being quoted, it's a lot of money. €125m went from being £95m in the run-up to the referendum (and only £88m last November!) to being over £107m last week. £12m is not to be sniffed at, even for United.
Sounds a bit silly, but at the prices being quoted, it's a lot of money. €125m went from being £95m in the run-up to the referendum (and only £88m last November!) to being over £107m last week. £12m is not to be sniffed at, even for United.
For what it's worth, Spanish media is reporting that Andre Gomes is going to Real Madrid since Real couldn't work out a deal for Pogba...
Is it really that hard to think about the price/quality ratio?
As you said it's a business.
Your business can buy a machine for 200k that gets you 50 pieces/min and another for 400k that produces 55 pcs/min.
So it's all a matter of longetivity and cost/pcs to evaluate if the better machine is actually the better choice.
You always gamble when you buy a player. Pogba is a wonderful talent but not a surefire Ballon d'Or winner. No one can say that in 2 years time, Pogba is clearly better than Koke/etc.
So I agree with the guys saying a billionaire should buy the ferrari, especially if his garage is limited to only 11 vehicles.
But you don't exactly know if Pogba is the Ferrari, so you have to set a price for that.
I want Pogba for 100M but I don't want him for 200M, simple as that.
Went to bed last night about 1.30 am after a spike in optimism following some Italian media reports.
Things seemed to have 'settled down' again since then.
Things seemed to have 'settled down' again since then.
I believe we will just use dollars in exhange with Euros - We probably have a rich reserve of Euros stored away too.
Anyway with our new deal with Virgin Money, they can give us mates rates
We won't get him.
I've always thought he was really happy at Juve so I never thought a move would happen. But now the prices quoted would be crazy to turn down. However, I dont believe he has any interest in returning to us. It seems he is happy where he is but if the money is right for Juve he would only leave for Madrid. We're being kept hanging until Madrid come in. And if they dont he will probably stay at juve.
It's pretty obvious he is a marketable sports person. Do you work within commercial and finance? Because Woodward and the Glazers do and it seems pretty obvious that they think this is a player worth investing in. Of course it's not only shirt sales, come on man you should know it's not that simplistic. But you seem to claim to know more about all this than Woodward and the Glazers.
For the people that are worrying about the price of Pogba;
Failing to invest correctly in our squad cost us the CL spot. That alone is valued circa £60-80m. If we buy Pogba and he gets us the extra points we required, he's basically paid for it himself. You have to speculate to accumulate, and Pogba favoured by Adidas will be 1 of the biggest player brands out there.
Sure it looks a lot of money on the face of it, but so did £30m for Ferdinand and Rooney. £80m looked a lot for Ronaldo at the time, but you would arguably want double that now.
Failing to invest correctly in our squad cost us the CL spot. That alone is valued circa £60-80m. If we buy Pogba and he gets us the extra points we required, he's basically paid for it himself. You have to speculate to accumulate, and Pogba favoured by Adidas will be 1 of the biggest player brands out there.
Sure it looks a lot of money on the face of it, but so did £30m for Ferdinand and Rooney. £80m looked a lot for Ronaldo at the time, but you would arguably want double that now.
And Woodward & the Glazers have a fantastic track record of getting big money signings right, don't they.
Aren't you contradicting yourself here? Saying we were short in attack because we failed to land a 100m player? We have a great opportunity to land Pogba for 100m who could change our season.
I would say most of our recent signings have been successful TBH. Only Darmian/Memphis haven't quite lived up to it yet, and even they have plenty of potential to overcome that.
Di Maria? Outstanding player and not their fault that he had a bad attitude. By your logics we shouldn't have bought Martial. Well thank god you are not in charge then.
But the question is are we investing correctly? Spending a ton of money doesn't mean that we are doing a good job.
PS: I'm just playing the devil advocate.
If we are counting coppers it's not only whether or not he is better than ie. Koke that matters. I am quite confident that Pogba would have a much better commercial value to the club than Koke would ever have for instance. From a business perspective, that could be more important than his on-pitch performances.
If a transfer is always a gamble, which I agree with, the gamble argument is a bit irrelevant. I understand that it is safer to gamble with smaller amounts of money but your winnings are also much smaller in that case.
That Mack The Knife guy is another crummy itk, he gets a lot right, but it's generally stuff thats very obvious and will call it late in the day, like us sacking Moyes, hiring Jose or signing Pogba.