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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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roonster09 said:
And the reason for it has retired from football, so the strategy is no longer productive.
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This.

United and Fergie just had that hold on the league during their time. That has now passed. The days of dominance with very little net spend is over. United will have to start acting like the other big clubs in the world, which isn't wrong to begin with, just a different approach. After you rebuild the foundations, you can be more picky in the transfer market ala Bayern or Juve.
 
roonster09 said:
And the reason for it has retired from football, so the strategy is no longer productive.
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Neither has the one that has been in play for the last 3 years. This profligacy cannot continue forever. At some point you have to build a squad that needs augmentation every season rather than full scale surgery. We'll have to return to prudent ways sooner than later. Times when football was fun from Sep-May, not June to deadline day.

We have bought/loaned 14 first team players since Fergie's retirement:

(1) Mata, (2) Fellaini, (3) di Maira, (4) Falcao (5) Shaw, (6) Herrera, (7) Blind, (8) Rojo, (9) Depay, (10) Darmian, (11) Schneiderlin, (12) Schweinsteiger, (13) Romero, (14) Valdes

Out of those, three have already been discarded: (1) Valdes, (2) di Maria, (3) Falcao; and there are indications that we may sell another four (minimum).

Anyway, this is veering off the topic and someone isn't going to like that. All I want to say is only spending cannot be our road to salvation post Fergie.
 
I wish people would stop banging on about the fee. We are Manchester united, just been voted the 5th wealthiest sports brand in the WORLD. Do you think the finance guys have not calculated everything down.
 
MounchesterUtd said:
This.

United and Fergie just had that hold on the league during their time. That has now passed. The days of dominance with very little net spend is over. United will have to start acting like the other big clubs in the world, which isn't wrong to begin with, just a different approach. After you rebuild the foundations, you can be more picky in the transfer market ala Bayern or Juve.
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I did not understand our transfer strategy. From the ease with which Bayern are signing players, it is obvious how easy it is for clubs to sign players when they are on top and winning things.
We signed Hargreaves, Ando, Nani and Tevez to add to a league winning team, we won the PL-UCL double.
Next summer, We signed Berba after that. We won the league again.
Next summer, we lose Ronaldo and we sign Valencia, Obertan, Owen and Mame Boram Diuof. I did not understand this at all. I think we were in for Benzema in that window but Real took him too. We were a top club winning things, plus we were rich, plus we had lost our best player at a young age, plus we got 80m pounds for him, it just does not make sense. We might have won the league again the season after this, but we should have added two or three top young players in that window, it would have helped us during the Moyes and LVG years.
 
100 mil is the equivalent of Mata, fellaini, Phil Jones and rojo put together. I'd personally rather have one world class player than spend on 4 mediocre ones.
 
Insanity said:
There weren't many options remaining without Fergie's genius. It is to spend or become the next Liverpool.

Though, it remains to be seen if we can spend our way to stability. The 'value strategy' was far more productive than this 'Spend frivolously' approach since then. 320m spent in the last three years and all we have show for is 7th, 4th & 5th positions in the league, plus a FA cup.
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The value strategy was productive in the hands of the right man, and even then, we spend a lot on deadwood and high wages. The spending is one part of it, piloting the squad is another. This is however a discussion for another thread.

In here, we gather around to get our bicycle back. Just like poor old man Ricci and his son did. :D
 
ChaddyP said:
Di Maria was being forced out of Madrid , Pogba is forcing his way out of Juve..... do you see a difference ?
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It's irrelevant. If Pogba truly prefers to go to Real but Raiola pushes him towards us for his own financial benefit, he might end up being disgruntled as well.
To me, it's not Pogba forcing his way out of Juve but rather Raiola forcing him out of there.
We shelled out a rather large amount of money for Mkhitaryan given that he had only one year left on his deal. Raiola milked us nicely there as well.
 
Insanity said:
Neither has the one that has been in play for the last 3 years. This profligacy cannot continue forever. At some point you have to build a squad that needs augmentation every season rather than full scale surgery. We'll have to return to prudent ways sooner than later. Times when football was fun from Sep-May, not June to deadline day.

We have bought/loaned 14 first team players since Fergie's retirement:

(1) Mata, (2) Fellaini, (3) di Maira, (4) Falcao (5) Shaw, (6) Herrera, (7) Blind, (8) Rojo, (9) Depay, (10) Darmian, (11) Schneiderlin, (12) Schweinsteiger, (13) Romero, (14) Valdes

Out of those, three have already been discarded: (1) Valdes, (2) di Maria, (3) Falcao; and there are indications that we may sell another four (minimum).

Anyway, this is veering off the topic and someone isn't going to like that. All I want to say is only spending cannot be our road to salvation post Fergie.
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where is martial?
 
I'm claiming credit for this speeding up. Gave unpasteurised night and watched my first Pogba highlights video, God smiled on me!
 
Wade3 said:
It's irrelevant. If Pogba truly prefers to go to Real but Raiola pushes him towards us for his own financial benefit, he might end up being disgruntled as well.
To me, it's not Pogba forcing his way out of Juve but rather Raiola forcing him out of there.
We shelled out a rather large amount of money for Mkhitaryan given that he had only one year left on his deal. Raiola milked us nicely there as well.
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How can Raiola force Pogba to quit Juventus ?

How did Raiola milk us for Miki ? did he force us to sign him, did he force our interest in him ?
 
It's been said before but it goes to show what impact an awesome manager like Mourinho can have. No way we would have attracted the signings this summer with LVG in charge.
 
Can anyone see this not happening at this stage?

I just can't believe we're going to sign Pogba, you always expect these sagas to end in heartbreak as they have so many times over the years. Truly amazing signing, and feck the fee, he's going to be the best midfielder in the world.
 
Not a single Tancredi-BOOM in the world can begin to describe how huge this would be. And not a single feck will be given towards all jealous rival fans "mocking" us for buying him back. Last cog in the title contending machinery really.

Zipping up...
 
GDaly95 said:
Can anyone see this not happening at this stage?

I just can't believe we're going to sign Pogba, you always expect these sagas to end in heartbreak as they have so many times over the years. Truly amazing signing, and feck the fee, he's going to be the best midfielder in the world.
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We've been closer to signing players and still missed out. I'll believe it when he's having his medical. I refuse to get (over) excited until then.
 
Creepy said:
Anyway, people who aren't happy with us spending obscene amount of money, perhaps you'd like to go back to the summer where we signed - Obertan, Owen on a free and Valencia. I think there was another player, but by feck - I don't even want to remember who that was.
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Manchester United were a European and English power back then. A great manager signed so called average players and made them champions. So yes, bring me back that time please...

Some people seem to hope for failure just to see big name players arriving.
 
RedPnutz said:
A big stain on SAF's legacy.

A mistake that costs the club more than 100 million.
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Well no.

We're under no obligation to purchase Pogba.

It's a spurious connection to put together and if SAF was still here, he'd have gone a different route and remained as successful as he ever was, as proven numerous times in the past.
Olly said:
So many transfers, Woody can't hold them all!

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Oh how this thread has missed you!

Insanity said:
I don't think he is a safe bet. As we found out in the Euros, he is not a difference maker or a player who can elevate a team single handedly. He was out-shined by a 18-year old with very limited experience.
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We found out at the Euros that Deschamps doesn't know what he's doing and constantly played his star midfielder everywhere but his best position.

Whilst your first sentence might well be true, you can't draw that conclusion from games at a tournament where Pogba was given little opportunity or platform to deliver as he has done for Juventus.

Mourinho will not make the same mistakes as Deschamps, and outside of a severe injury crisis, Pogba won't be playing at the base of our midfield at any time during the next 3yrs or whatever.

Pogba is inconsistent and he is lackadaisical as well as sometimes positionally poor in defensive situations, but he is absolutely a difference-maker and one of few players in the world with the pure ability to turn games to his team's favour in an instant. We don't need him to do anything single-handedly as he has vastly more experienced players around him who can and will share the load throughout the campaign.

If anything, Mourinho is setting up a team that will get as much offensive brilliance out of Pogba as possible
 
Wade3 said:
It's irrelevant. If Pogba truly prefers to go to Real but Raiola pushes him towards us for his own financial benefit, he might end up being disgruntled as well.
To me, it's not Pogba forcing his way out of Juve but rather Raiola forcing him out of there.
We shelled out a rather large amount of money for Mkhitaryan given that he had only one year left on his deal. Raiola milked us nicely there as well.
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If we hadn't then someone else would have. I wish people stopped using the one year on contract argument when it comes to top players, it quite clearly doesn't mean that much.
 
marukomu said:
I'm in the 25% that voted no, I'm afraid. It's too much and is going to make all future transfers expensive, even for mediocre players... unless he's really good and then I will lie about my vote.
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Troy Deeney says hello.

Pogba is one of the most marketable players on the plant and exciting to watch. He is on the verge of becoming a galatico. This will be a massive massive signing for United commercially.
 
Was against spending so much money as it is a hell of a lot but now I'm caught up in it all, so much so I'm just leaving my nuts hanging out. Seeing how rival fans are getting pissed off with us again instead of laughing at us brings a tear to my eye.

Come home Pogba
 
marukomu said:
I'm in the 25% that voted no, I'm afraid. It's too much and is going to make all future transfers expensive, even for mediocre players... unless he's really good and then I will lie about my vote.
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We grossly overpaid for Martial too

Up to 80 mil euros for an unproven youngster is even worse imo. But sometimes you just have bite the bullet and pay

Of course this will distort the market. But it will distort for everyone ,not just us (see the Troy Deeney saga for example)
 
Creepy said:
Maybe something to do with Malcom shuffling off his mortal coil?

Seem to remember it was noted by a poster yesterday that once uncle Malc past away we started to spend.
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I think to be fair Woody had been trying to spend big before he died.
 
Fortitude said:
Well no.

We're under no obligation to purchase Pogba.

It's a spurious connection to put together and if SAF was still here, he'd have gone a different route and remained as successful as he ever was, as proven numerous times in the past.
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This. I don't know why this is being brought up repeatedly, when there is a distinct lack of logic in that argument.
 
GJNJ said:
I think to be fair Woody had been trying to spend big before he died.
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It looks good in the eyes of the sponsors. Especially after the last 3 years we've had. We can't mess about else we'll lose money. If we go buy Pogba, it will add to the interest in Manchester and the derby will be cracked up even more.

This won't be typical spending, but I wouldn't be shocked if we've others in mind next summer. We do have some catching up to do but we're not far off a very good squad.
 
crossy1686 said:
That's still €102m. Reports are they want €120m plus add-ons. If this happens it will be for around €110m with performance based add-ons.
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I suppose this is the art of negotiation. But if we're willing to pay €102m I doubt an extra €8m will be an issue.
 
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