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Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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I've been a silent lurker in this thread since it started simply because I just couldn't believe it happening, but my goodness I can't take it anymore! We actually stand a chance. For me this just shows how important it was to get Mourinho for those still doubting his appointment. All these signings, or possible signings would not be near possible if we still have LVG, Giggsy or any other second tier manager out there. Its clear for Zlatan why he joined, Micky knows he is coming to a world class club but right now a manager who knows what he is doing. And now Pogba...
Alas, its still a way to go for this Pogba deal but if/when it happens...the sheer beauty of knowing that we are soon to return from the brink of the endless wilderness that befell our 5 TIMES friends is enough to make me cry! This past 3 years have been awful to say the least. With Pogba we could get more than just a player. It is a statement, we announcing to the world, our history is here to stay, but so is our future. We are UNITED! No more fighting for top 4, no more mediocre signings (ok one or 2 now and then is still fine).
Pogba better sign or else I've wasted this post
Ok after that speech...back to the RAWK meltdown thread to get my morning dose of laughter.
Alas, its still a way to go for this Pogba deal but if/when it happens...the sheer beauty of knowing that we are soon to return from the brink of the endless wilderness that befell our 5 TIMES friends is enough to make me cry! This past 3 years have been awful to say the least. With Pogba we could get more than just a player. It is a statement, we announcing to the world, our history is here to stay, but so is our future. We are UNITED! No more fighting for top 4, no more mediocre signings (ok one or 2 now and then is still fine).
Pogba better sign or else I've wasted this post
Ok after that speech...back to the RAWK meltdown thread to get my morning dose of laughter.
You think we will be able to sign him, ship him halfway across the world and let him play in a friendly without a single training session ?
I think CS is more likely
He's on holiday till the 6th of August.
You're looking at it the wrong way. Why worry about some future transfer when we can get one of the world best players? What do you think would have happened if the likes of Madrid, Barca, Bayern, PSG and City thought that way? Whould they have got some of the best players? They paid over £60m for Suarez. This week they signed Digne for less than £15m. It didnt distort them in any way. It might distort the market only for the superstars but that was distorted any way.
I meant an agreement between clubs, not medical etc.
ah I was thinking in £ not euros
I dont think anything will be agreed today but we need to get it done ASAP in case Madrid raise the funds to come in last minute. Cant count on the fax machine not working again.
You quoted your own post there mate.
Lets be honest here all things being equal (money, playing time, chance of trophies etc.) i would say maybe 70-80% of footballers would prefer to go and live in spain and play for Real Madrid, maybe even more than that.
So what should we do only sign die hard United fans or players who for some reason are desperate to go to United over any other club?
Because if we did that we would narrow the field of potential new players significantly.
Pogba may prefer to go to Spain in an ideal world but theres no reason he won't be happy at United once he gets there.
Excited about this.
Mourinho most likely will use him as one of the 2 at the base of our midfield, something he clearly isn't comfortable with yet, as we saw at the Euros. Confident he'll come good eventually though, he's too talented to be average when "not used in his best position". That's an excuse the best shouldn't get away with.
Mourinho most likely will use him as one of the 2 at the base of our midfield, something he clearly isn't comfortable with yet, as we saw at the Euros. Confident he'll come good eventually though, he's too talented to be average when "not used in his best position". That's an excuse the best shouldn't get away with.
The reason also lies in the fact that we gave the manager position to someone who has never finished above 4th and a foreign manager who had no experience in the premier league. Bad transfer strategy and even worse system of play has led us here today.
The problem is that we are not getting one of the world's best players. We're not getting a Ronaldo, Bale, Suarez, L. Ronaldo, Kaka etc. at the time they were purchased, we're getting potentially one of the world's best players, and even that's far from certain.
Like I said before, everyone rejects the first offer because they are lowballed. Its how an offer starts. If you are willing to pay 120m for him you dont start the bidding at 120m. Start lower and make your way up.
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I can't wait for him to prove all the doubters wrong when he scores one and assists two against West Brom or Cheltenham in the league cup.
Slightly off topic but that's why international matches are rarely entertaining. At clubs you build a side transferring players to fit a system. International managers have to try get the best out of the best players they have. Griezmann is France's obvious best player and has so they make a system to get the most out him and if that means sacrificing others and playing Pogba in front of the back four then so be it. They don't play in the same position but it would compromise the balance. I don't think he played to bad there but it just wasn't exciting. If Pogba had played at hus best earlier in the tournament then maybe they would have played him his preferred position and push Griezmann into a different position. I think the problem when building a system around one player is that when the player doesn't play great then the side suffer like Griezmann in the final. We might have a simular issue with Rooney, but I'm confident Mourinho will find the solution otherwise he wouldn't want him so badly.
He absolutely is one of the best players in the world. There is a reason Barca and Real want him. Unless you're arguing semantics he is obviously one of the best midfielders around, whether he is as good as a bunch of strikers you've listed is irrelevant.
In your position, if you are a top 10 player then thats good enough for me to be considered one of the best in the world. I think he is a top 5 midfielder in the world right now but just to keep you happy Im saying he is in the top 10.
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Pogba is the best midfield player in his generation at this point, there's some really promising players but Pogba is multi dimensional.
Agreed with you on this point (Me saying best midfielder of his generation people may disagree with me but he will develop and become more consistent in the EPL).
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Pogba is on holiday until the 6th of August.
Would love it if United can get it sorted this week! I am not able to get much of work done in office, just refreshing forums and social media for news.
It's nothing about they "cant raise the money" Perez just doesn't like him. Whether it's for footballing reasons or not we won't know. Oh well good for us.
Its alright but that 120m is in Euros which equates to £100m.no coffee yet
It is about the money if journos are to be believed. They balked at the agent fees. We did that once and lost out on Hazard. Glad we learnt our lesson.
Dry your salty tears Marca
feck off you arrogant cnuts. "Letting" us piss off.
I completely agree with that, Pogba did well in that new role. From the game against Cameroon to the game against Germany there is a world, he has actually been well drilled by Deschamps, Pogba is obviously a lot better for Juventus but that's true for most players.
You hardly expect Marca to write the truth, right?
How would their readers react if they wrote it like it actually is:
"Marca say Man United signs Pogba since Real Madrid can't match their financial might, sadly the city and government wouldn't funnel more money into RM at this point"
How would their readers react if they wrote it like it actually is:
"Marca say Man United signs Pogba since Real Madrid can't match their financial might, sadly the city and government wouldn't funnel more money into RM at this point"
I missed this post; this is a good point. It also makes Wegner look a little less silly, though not completely.So we've signed the best player in the French League and one of the best players in Italian(almost done) and German League this season. All this without the Champions League.
More or less confirms that it was Ferguson and Gill decision to look for value in market rather than being instructed by Glazers. Such a shame really
That might be the case, but I think at this moment it's a matter of you guys wanting to buy this window and Juventus trying to cash in as much as possible. And since everyone in the PL has a ton of money...
Just thought id drop this in here as its excellent.
It's probably not too far off the truth though. Not like I give a feck.
Its like they have written that article just to rile up United fans.
Yeah you're right, I seem to remember the Ronaldo transfer being agreed between the two clubs whilst he was on holiday in LA (why do footballers in particular like going there on holiday?).
I'm still in disbelief at this happening though, I will not allow myself to get seduced by the caf.
Tbh in the end it's performances and results which count and despite mega signings in the last 3 years I would take our league positions in the following years of that summer ahead of the disaster and mega signings of the last 3 years anytime.
It's nice we can sign all those players but signings don't win you points. At the moment the pressure with every big money signing is increasing on United and Jose to have a really good season and that's all I am interested in.
And despite all the enthusiasm, Pogba is not even the finished world class article which in theory he should be for such ridiculous fee and wages.
All fingers crossed that we have a good start to the season, otherwise Raiola will be spouting crap about Pogb's possible next destinations before we even get to terms with just having bought him.