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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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Turnip said:
Well said. Thinking we as fans have or should have any say in the way the club handles money is idiotic. We're customers, not share holders.

It really seems weird how so many people care about the way the club is spending. It's already been shown this isn't even our most expensive deal compared to revenue. Just worry about what's happening on the pitch, because that is what you're actually paying for with tickets, and I'm sure we can all agree Pogba is going to improve that. It doesn't even matter if we could have improved for less, it's none of our concern and we have no say in it. So think of it like this, you're getting to see an extra £100m worth of player on the pitch with you pay for your tickets and no extra cost. You should be happy. It's like getting gold sprinkled on your corn flakes for free.

I don't know if it's the Internet that makes people feel so entitled or what.
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Thank you and same.

I don't know. Some people are not interested in economics, and some people are also quite young.

I bolded what you mentioned that I think is very important to keep in mind as well.

Also that the transfer fee is paid off during the years the player is with the club. Buying Pogba and offering him a 6 year contract is thus much cheaper than buying him for the same price but settle for 3-4 years.

I also think that from a business perspective (ignoring what happens on the pitch), if Pogba over time generates more money than he costs it's very bad business NOT to buy him for £100M or what the figure is. Somewhere on the way there is a breakpoint and if the people at the club thinks the total cost of Pogba surpasses that breakpoint they will not buy him.

Manchester United is a public company. Their only right to exist (from a business perspective) is to make money for their investors. They will not to deals they don't judge being financially successful.
 
devilish said:
I think Mou is talking about core transfers ie players he can't live without. I won't be surprised if we get secondary signings especially if we manage to offload certain players. However they won't be big names
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I agree, when he said "four targets" in his first presser, that was in conjunction with his speech on "specialist players". I think some back up/ squad signings are likely, but this pogba deal is the "25%" he's talking about.
 
Riz said:
Whilst I'm fine with the fee I saw this response on facebook which I thought was quite adequate.

Do I think Pogba is worth £100m? No.
Does Jose Mourinho? Yes.
How many trophies have I won? None.
How many has Mourinho? End of conversation.
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You ended the conversation without answering the question?
 
WPMUFC said:
I agree, when he said "four targets" in his first presser, that was in conjunction with his speech on "specialist players". I think some back up/ squad signings are likely, but this pogba deal is the "25%" he's talking about.
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No that was in conjunction with the 4 identified priorities who are meant to strengthen the team in quality. The specialist speech isn't linked to that.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
In the end they all turned out well. OK Thiago is a fantastic player but he is terribly injury prone. The other two fell off the edge of a cliff not long after we missed out.
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Well Fabregas would've been a player who could've helped us win the title in his first season. He was the engine in CFC's midfield, that year.
Silver Lining: had we won the title that year, we'd still be stuck with Moyes, who I doubt would've been consistently able to mount a title challenge.
In any case, it's all history, so no point debating it.
 
glazed said:
Stupid as the money is, this purchase is an important statement of intent for the club. I really hope it happens.
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Bringing Jose was the biggest statement for me, It showed finally that the board is determined to get the club back to where we belong. Who doesn't want to play for Jose Mourinho :smirk: except Varane :lol:
 
starman said:
Seems like Juv are still refusing on paying Raiola. Could reach 140 euro :annoyed: if we need to pay him separately
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I don't see how they can refuse, they did agree to this in the contract renewal, no?
 
Riz said:
Do I think Pogba is worth £100m? No.
Does Jose Mourinho? Yes.
How many trophies have I won? None.
How many has Mourinho? End of conversation.
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This is exactly my way of thinking.
 
If it goes through the fee is absurd. However, when you think of it (as I saw online somewhere) as effectively two Raheem Sterlings, it doesn't seem so bad.
 
kenny19 said:
If Pogba doesn't come after all this hype, I will gather the cafe members and we will all file a Class action suit. Nobody toys with our emotions and gets away with it.
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Half the Caf would have hung themselves if he doesn't come!
 
Have been through too many of these transfer sagas to allow myself to indulge in hope this time... Im still sore from Hazard!!. I still fear that Madrid will appear at the last moment, they are fully capable of doing so.

That being said, it's obvious that the club have gone all in for Pogba which I'm delighted about as it shows many things

1) Mourinho has a clear plan
2) senior management are working in harmony against an agreed plan
3) Illustrates to the world that our Glazer business model is successful and robust and that we have the capacity to sign the best available players in world football.
4) clear evidence of how Woodward has quickly learnt his role whilst 'on the job'.
5) Demonstrates to all comers that the club can attract the very very best, despite being SAFLESS, residing in a cold and rainy city and temporarily not offering European champions league football.
6) Pogba is a potentially world class player and allows Mourinho to build a dynasty around him, much like SAF did with Cantona or Keane.

I don't care one iota what he costs, indeed I'll be quite amused if we do break the transfer record. Football transfer fees are relative to how much money is in the game and at a particular club, as shown is the earlier chart, so it's no big deal for a club our size...
 
sokol11 said:
There are still some going on about the fee? The fee is under 20% of our yearly income and we payed bigger percentage with Veron and Rio. Can we now let it go?
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That would be true even if we bought James Milner for the same fee. And it would be an insane deal.

Those who question the fee generally do not question if we can afford it.
 
Riz said:
Whilst I'm fine with the fee I saw this response on facebook which I thought was quite adequate.

Do I think Pogba is worth £100m? No.
Does Jose Mourinho? Yes.
How many trophies have I won? None.
How many has Mourinho? End of conversation.
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:lol: love it.
 
sokol11 said:
There are still some going on about the fee? The fee is under 20% of our yearly income and we payed bigger percentage with Veron and Rio. Can we now let it go?
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It's not just about the fee though. How much do you think his delightful agent will want ? My guess is £20-25m. Then there are the wages at £350-400k pw at a guess.

This deal if it goes through will cost United in excess of £220m over 5 years in my opinion.

I wonder why no other clubs appear to be interested ?
 
Polite Poster said:
It's not just about the fee though. How much do you think his delightful agent will want ? My guess is £20-25m. Then there are the wages at £350-400k pw at a guess.

This deal if it goes through will cost United in excess of £220m over 5 years in my opinion.

I wonder why no other clubs appear to be interested ?
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Pogba is not going to be on £350-400k pw ffs. The agent/Pogba get 20% - which would be €24m.
 
Polite Poster said:
It's not just about the fee though. How much do you think his delightful agent will want ? My guess is £20-25m. Then there are the wages at £350-400k pw at a guess.

This deal if it goes through will cost United in excess of £220m over 5 years in my opinion.

I wonder why no other clubs appear to be interested ?
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:lol:
 
You really think the world's most expensive player is going to be on less money than Rooney ?

:lol:
 
Polite Poster said:
It's not just about the fee though. How much do you think his delightful agent will want ? My guess is £20-25m. Then there are the wages at £350-400k pw at a guess.

This deal if it goes through will cost United in excess of £220m over 5 years in my opinion.

I wonder why no other clubs appear to be interested ?
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We're the most marketable company in the world, more than Real and Barca etc. Therefore we can get more value out of a transfer than anyone else, therefore we can afford to spend more money than anyone else. That's why others can't/won't compete.
He won't be on £350k-400k per week though that's complete shite :lol:
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
£400k per week :lol:

All the reports suggest 13m Euros a year. In GBP, that's just over £200k p/w.

But yeah, just double it to make a point.
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Cause the reports as 13m euros a year net and considering it would be 45% tax in the uk doubling it isn't that far off is it?
 
Reports suggest his net wage will be ~200k so that is around 400k gross right?

Also, it makes you wonder how much more we would have to pay to sign Neymar.
 
If United want to been as an elite entity, then they are going to have to be spending this kind of money to keep up, Barca and Real are happily throwing money about, the games moved that at the top. Bayern aren't exactly skimping themselves, better structured salaries, but their players mostly seem to want to move away eventually for the bigger money clearly after Basty, Kroos, endless Muller flirtation. But I doubt they'll be able to contain their core stars under 200k wages for much longer.

City clearly happy to spend, albeit have held back on the insane transfers, but still gone overboard on Raheem, 2 CB's etc. KDB looks a bargain compared to them 3.
 
Players don't really pay the 45% tax, there's ways around that.
 
Summit said:
Cause the reports as 13m euros a year net and considering it would be 45% tax in the uk doubling it isn't that far off is it?
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Players these days set up image rights companies/investment companies. They won't be paying income tax on most of their income, they'll be paying circa 18% corporation tax.
 
predator said:
Also, it makes you wonder how much more we would have to pay to sign Neymar.
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€200m (that was his reported release clause) plus agent fees plus potentially more to buy his image rights. Wages would have been enormous.
 
the unknown one. said:
Seriously though,

Pogba's high technical skills combined with his unique image and name are what make him marketable.

I think his ethnicity is also a factor, not many black superstars in football at the moment.
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I hear you. I personally wouldn't say he has higher technical skills than Yaya, but look at the difference in their image and Persona. Yaya looks like a default character on Pro Evolution soccer, there is nothing interesting about his look. Pogba on the other hand, has gone all out.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
I'd be incredibly surprised if it is net. I can't recall a time when wages have been declared as the after-tax amount. Not in the Premier League anyway.
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I'd be incredibly surprised if we aren't paying him more than we paid RvP, or Rooney.
 
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