Yeah, just feels like it hardly comes up/factors into anything.
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Yeah, just feels like it hardly comes up/factors into anything.
This is why the fee doesn't bother me for Pogba. It's strange that we all knew the market was about to be massively inflated primarily due to the new BPL tv deal and the Chinese clubs but we're arguing over £100m for Pogba when it's £35m for Sissoko, £30m+ for Deeney, £38m for Ighalo and £32m for Benteke.
Clearly it was wishful thinking on my part but ho hum.
City clearly have other priorities and I trust Pep to prevail Pogba or no Pogba
A lot of City fans have been crowing for over a year that Pogba joining was some sort of inevitability. Funny how the "priorities" have changed now he's on the verge of coming back to OT. You either got priced out or Pogba didn't fancy it are more likely scenarios.
Must go. The Bonucci thread is calling
I almost forgot that City fans have been telling us for the last two years that he was going there. Bluemoon even had a massive thread on Pogba where people were absolutely convinced he was joining. Now all of a sudden he's overrated and they're not bothered that he's going to United.No surprise to see @Polite Poster in here downplaying Pogba's incoming. Like a lot of blues he's been predicting Pogba to City for over a year now so face saving nonsense about fees is now the default fallback position for blues with their noses out of joint
From the closed Pogba thread:
"Pogba's move to Juventus was allegedly on the advice of Viera who of course played there. And as that didn't work out too badly for the lad he may well listen to his idol again about moving to City. Plus, of course he would get to play alongside another of the players he looks up to, a certain Yaya Toure.
Of course it may all be wishful thinking on my part but I think this lad will be playing in sky blue next season"
Etc etc.
Anyhoo....Pogba
Who cares, we are in for Paul Pogba, not his very distant copy. But I would be gutted if I were a Juventus fan.
Toure scored woldies and dragged City to the title. He also enjoyed high scoring seasons. Pogba is yet to even hit double figures in terms of goals. I don't see how he is judged to have superior technical skills. In what aspects?
Guardian Journo Andy Hunter: Juve looking Sissoko after Pogba to MUFC is done. It just seems to be common knowledge now that the deal is almost done
Really hope Di Marzio can shed some more light on this today.
Jesus, that is one hell of a downgrade
Financial Fair Play (FFP).
When Pogba scores his first screamer against city I will literally tear my foreskin off and tag every damn City poster on the Caf with endless mockery.
We overspending for Pogba because
a- he's one of the best allrounders in midfield
b- he's young
c- we're out of the CL
d- we are competing for him with Real Madrid
e- Juventus is not an easy club to deal with
If we aim for other players then we would probably have to pay 20% more because we are Manchester United and another 10-15% (mostly in salaries) more because we're out of the CL. Now we can decide. Should we get Sissoko or another Fellaini for 35-40m each or Pogba for 100m?
a- he's one of the best allrounders in midfield
b- he's young
c- we're out of the CL
d- we are competing for him with Real Madrid
e- Juventus is not an easy club to deal with
If we aim for other players then we would probably have to pay 20% more because we are Manchester United and another 10-15% (mostly in salaries) more because we're out of the CL. Now we can decide. Should we get Sissoko or another Fellaini for 35-40m each or Pogba for 100m?
I'm just astonished they'd do that. Hope it happens though as I'd find it funny.
But you City fans were on here boasting about your massive revenues after your China deal and how ffp isn't a concern for you now?
I don't get this. Apparently Juve will accept 92m if we take care of the agent fee. That's 6m more than Bale.
Was there ever a time that Pogba wasn't going to be a world record transfer when he leaves Juve? Even his wages aren't that unreasonable if the 18% tax is true.
A lot of City fans have been crowing for over a year that Pogba joining was some sort of inevitability. Funny how the "priorities" have changed now he's on the verge of coming back to OT. You either got priced out or Pogba didn't fancy it are more likely scenarios.
Must go. The Bonucci thread is calling
I think that Mourinho joining Utd changed everything. Not because he is a great manager but his relationship with Mina Raiola.
I don't think there is any conflict in 'priorities' and being priced out. City have a budget for transfers and buying Pogba would leave us unable to make other additions we therefore walked away.
as far as the salary goes I think that 13m net includes the additional money we will pay him for his image rights, bonuses etc.
Why? Cuz tabloids and Manchester United transfers, thats why.
Why? Cuz tabloids and Manchester United transfers, thats why.
Please, the Sheikh would pull £100m out of his ass in the time it takes to have a wank if there ever was a remote possibillity of Pogba wanting to join you.
Is that a wank with/without the lights on?
There's also a rumour that Pogba wants to only join one of the traditional big clubs rather than one of the new money clubs.
In terms of Individualism, unpredictability. Pogba has an end product and if we got him, I would expect him to go up a level or two. It depends what we ask him. But Toure was much more experienced when he joined City. For me, Pogba has a bigger ceiling of potential. It would be up to us to demand it and get the best out of him. If you think about Ronaldo - the improvement curve - he went up a level at Madrid because it all seemed to click for him and they looked to him for inspiration. If we get him and if we use him right, then I would expect a better player then what he's shown at Juve. When someone potentially pays that money, it has to inspire but let's see if we get him and let's see how he settles. Fingers crossed we get him.
The just bought Pjanic they will be fine. The striker they buy will be more interesting
I normally always do it with the lights out, just basking in the light of my laptop screen.
Always good to know, cheers.
Is £85m or £90m really that outrageous for Pogba when Sissoko costs £35m and he's 4 years older, playing for a relegated team and much worse? In the past Sissoko would have cost £10m.
Can't believe Newcastle are about to receive £60m for Wijnaldum and Sissoko, who were both fecking shite last season and one of the main reasons behind Newcastle's relegation.
Amen to that, i go full lights out no laptop light, to help avoid the shame of the man that I've become.
Rival fans are hilarious. City fans especially were getting giddy at the thought of signing him this summer.
As said before, Neymar aside he is the biggest young talent in world football. Clubs outside of Real and Barca don't tend to get a sniff of those sorts of players until now.
As said before, Neymar aside he is the biggest young talent in world football. Clubs outside of Real and Barca don't tend to get a sniff of those sorts of players until now.
A lot of City fans have been crowing for over a year that Pogba joining was some sort of inevitability. Funny how the "priorities" have changed now he's on the verge of coming back to OT. You either got priced out or Pogba didn't fancy it are more likely scenarios.
Must go. The Bonucci thread is calling
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29k replies on the bluemoon transfer forum.
Nearly crashed the server.
I can just imagine the gloating they would have done if they got him .
I just want us to wrap this transfer up so we can sit back, relax, and leave everyone else to worry about dealing with an inflated transfer market.
It's likely going to be that amount. Rooney is on £300k+, this is a world record transfer.
What needs to be factored in though is that it looks like we are buying his image rights like we did with Rooney. Our marketing team will manage his profile and we'll make money back from that and will hope to make a profit from them.
So it's probably a basic wage of around £250k-£300k + £100k for his full image rights of which, with out marketing team, we might hope to turn a profit from which we could cover some of his salary.
Must have missed those transfers, when were these players signed?
But why buy Pogba when we could have 3 Moussa Sissokos?
Yeah, this is what people fail to grasp. A club like Manchester United with our marketing machine can make money off sand in Sahara and ice cubes in the North Pole.
Woody will flog Pogba around like a 10 dollar Tijuana slapper.
It's kinda funny how we can go from so many different media outlets being all over the deal and reporting that it was all done and dusted just last night. And now there's complete radio silence. There must have been some briefing from either United, Juve or Raiola(most likely). Interesting to see if there is any truth to it. But really strange that Marotta refused any contact. Why would he do that? It's not gonna help him in regard to the Juve fans. They're just gonna think he's a liar and full of BS if they sell Pogba right after those statements. So maybe there hasn't been any?
Something is going on, and I just hope it isn't because they're trying to lure Madrid into pulling the trigger.
Something is going on, and I just hope it isn't because they're trying to lure Madrid into pulling the trigger.
No one could seriously believe there's been no contact, surely. You'd have to be mad and naive beyond belief.
Every transfer goes silent for a while before it's complete. We're never going to get running commentary on a transfer, although Di Marzio came close when we signed Darmian.
All the media outlets said that it was virtually done but that nothing was signed, they never told you that it was going to happen in the next 24 hours.
Surely we will hear something today?
It's the same trend every day to be fair. It gets towards the evening when the articles for the following days papers are being released and lots of "news" suddenly starts popping up.
It'll happen this evening too, around 8pm BST the continental journalists will start tweeting hints about what their articles will be about and the British journalists will be busy trying to decipher what is happening and pumping out their own articles which will start to appear an hour later.
How do people know by what % the deal is done by or that "it's surely happening? I'm assuming it's rubbish estimations
You're probably right, and there's no need to worry at all. But it's just a strange thing to say by Marotta if we're going to finalise it in the next couple of days anyway. But I'm aware he did something similar during the Pjanic transfer, so it's probably just because he's full of BS. But I still can't help but feel this might end up like Sneijder or Vidal.
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