Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies

Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


  • Total voters
    1,968
That Mourinho video confirms it even more in my mind.

Confirms what? That we're interested? That the deal is close? That everything is probably agreed.

Of course all of that is confirmed by numerous reliable media reports. The only problem is that while the deal is being finalized, will Real Madrid swoop in or not.
 
Think we'll finish the deal off today, then we can't start warming ourselves up for next summer's muppet season; Verratti/Griezemann.
there is no way it will be finished today

Medical still will need to be done and he is still on holidays
 
Confirms what? That we're interested? That the deal is close? That everything is probably agreed.

Of course all of that is confirmed by numerous reliable media reports. The only problem is that while the deal is being finalized, will Real Madrid swoop in or not.

It was the way he spoke, conviction and absolute belief, we have identified our man and we will get our man
 
Think we'll finish the deal off today, then we can't start warming ourselves up for next summer's muppet season; Verratti/Griezemann.
More likely to be a world record deal for Ravel Morrison.
 
This has officially overtaken the Berbatov thread for the second place. Now we just need approx 6500 post/162 pages to overtake the Vidal thread as the number one. With the way this is dragging out/how long we often take before announcing the deals could we actually do it?
 
They'd been talking to him for a long while and using Zidane and it was said to be his first choice. Then last night when reports of a deal being agreed were being bounded around they apparently tried to enter the bidding but Pogba had already given his word to United.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that they tried to enter the fray again with the assumption that Pogba would push for them rather than us only to find that he's not willing to go back on his agreement with us.

I don't think we have the money to buy him, not unless we sell James.


Don't you think that RM has a certain amount allocated for transfers before each window starts? And it is up to the board \ manager (Perez) how it is spent?

For example United have their infamous warchest of about £200m, this is all allocated and calculated before the transfer window starts.

The stadium rebuilding will take place (350 mil €), there's some fines to pay (not much). We have a lot of "assets" in the squad as it is, so like I said, we have to sell to buy.


It happened with Ronaldinho. We messed about then they came in and gazumped us - not with a WR offer, but high prices for that time, all because we dithered.

And don't forget this is United, the club with the record of cocking up the most transfer deals in the history of the game.

Mourinho will put a stop to that, that much I'm certain. You get them or you don't.
 
Confirms what? That we're interested? That the deal is close? That everything is probably agreed.

Of course all of that is confirmed by numerous reliable media reports. The only problem is that while the deal is being finalized, will Real Madrid swoop in or not.
Even we. Are trying to stall at the deal for this agent there is no way Madrid can afford it now.
 
Can you please post the article?

The Frenchman's agent always said if his client left Juventus it would be for a "top club" - so why has he joined a side that can't even offer Champions League football?

Mino Raiola is well suited to his profession. The so-called 'super-agent' is a shrewd reader of the transfer market and has a flair for hyperbole. In January of last year, he boldly proclaimed of Paul Pogba, "He will break Cristiano Ronaldo’s transfer record because there can be only one Mona Lisa."

Whether you agree with the latter clause, the former is now set to become fact: Paul Pogba will become the most expensive footballer of all time, with Manchester United agreeing to pay Juventus €110 million to take him back to Old Trafford.

It was always accepted that Pogba would eventually part company with the Bianconeri. Raiola has never made any secret of that. "We've always said we'll be able to leave when we feel the time is right, with the right project, the right team and all of the parties are in agreement," he stated in November 2015. So why, in July 2016, is his most prized possession now joining United?

While a historic accord was reached between United and Juventus that suits two parties (at least financially), looking at this deal from Pogba's perspective, this is the wrong time, the wrong project and the wrong team.

Firstly, there is the timing. Pogba is leaving Juventus just when they appear to have their best chance of winning the Champions League. As Bianconeri boss Massimiliano Allegri stated four days ago, "Anyone who has the opportunity to leave Juventus has to consider things very carefully because right now Juve are among the top four European clubs."

Yet Pogba is moving to a side that weren't even among the top four in England last season. The France international wants to win the Champions League - that dream is now at least another two years away.

Admittedly, Pogba is just 23 and he will have convinced himself that he is buying into a long-term project aimed at restoring United to their former pre-eminence among England's elite. However, the once-proud protectors of 'The Manchester United Way' have entrusted that responsibility to Jose Mourinho, a manager who has never spent more than three seasons at one club.

Of course, Mourinho has sanctioned some typically high-profile signings, chief among them Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Henrikh Mkhitaryan. However, the former is a modern great but is now 34 and has only signed on for one season. Meanwhile, there is a question mark over Mkhitaryan's ability to adjust to the Premier League. The Armenian is an attacking midfielder of rare quality but the last Borussia Dortmund playmaker to pitch up at Old Trafford certainly didn't fare so well...

Mourinho has some wonderful young talent to work, including Marcus Rashford, but then, the Portuguese has never been a coach under whom talented teenagers have flourished.

The point is not to cast Mourinho in a negative light but to merely point out that after losing dressing rooms in his last two managerial positions, at Chelsea and Real Madrid, there is sufficient uncertainty surrounding his suitability to the United job to make one wonder why Pogba has left a stable, successful side in Turin for a team in transition.

Then again, the sentimentality of the situation cannot be underestimated. Pogba may well feel that he has unfinished business at Old Trafford. He bears no ill will towards Sir Alex Ferguson but remains bitterly upset by the fact that he was never given a proper chance to shine under the former United boss. "I was in love with Manchester and I was a Mancunian," he toldFourFourTwo last year.

However, it still seems strange for a player driven by winning titles and being the best player he can be to have decided that now is the time to return. He could have either pushed for a move to reigning European champions Madrid or spent another season in Turin, where he would have been guaranteed another shot at the Champions League while he closely monitored how Mourinho was faring in Manchester.

Instead, Pogba has taken a huge gamble with his career - one that is only certain to pay off financially.

“If Paul leaves Juventus, it will be for the absolute top,” Raiola insisted last year. However, even the most die-hard United fan would grudgingly admit that United are no longer at the pinnacle of European football.

Pogba may well be a work of art - but he is now a part of what is very much a work in progress.
 
I see that a lot of people bring up the Thiago saga. What was that all about? I wasn't really involved in that because I never rated the player.

He had a low release clause and wanted to leave due to lack of games. De Gea wrote "see you in Manchester" on his match ball after scoring a hat trick in the U21 Euros. Graham Hunter was close to Thiagos dad and it looked likely to happen. July 1st, Moyes seemed to pour cold water on it immediately. Guardiola waded in and they had the deal wrapped up in a matter of days. Heartbreak for all involved. I've never muppeted the same since.
 
I don't understand how an agent can have enough control over a player to earn himself such a huge fee. The agent is nothing without the player, the player is still who he is without the agent. I'd guess that many players retire and realise they got taken to the cleaners.
 
http://sportwitness.co.uk/marca-manchester-united-pogba-varane/

It's great to see Real Madrid being so bitter and hostile towards us over Pogba. For the so-called biggest club in the world they really do go to great lengths to try and prove that they are bigger and better than us. I'll never forget how they Photoshop'd that stadium photograph of the friendly match to add more white shirts. Pathetic club.
 
This is hilarious. So many people shitting bricks after everything that's happened? It's a done deal guys. It's probably been agreed for a week they just don't want to make it public yet.

The chef and the hairdresser both say he's coming, what more do you need? the housekeeper too?
 
This is hilarious. So many people shitting bricks after everything that's happened? It's a done deal guys. It's probably been agreed for a week they just don't want to make it public yet.

The chef and the hairdresser both say he's coming, what more do you need? the housekeeper too?

Would be a bonus I suppose.

I think the deal's done. It's going to be an annoying weekend I feel though.
 
This is hilarious. So many people shitting bricks after everything that's happened? It's a done deal guys. It's probably been agreed for a week they just don't want to make it public yet.

The chef and the hairdresser both say he's coming, what more do you need? the housekeeper too?

Unless his new housekeeper is in Madrid...
 
Reminiscent of this:



Florentino Perez saying Suarez isn't a great player after the Uruguayan joined Barcelona.

Isn't that very clearly a tongue-in-cheek remark by Perez in that video? But yes, the AS and Marca excuses are ridiculous and cringeworthy.
 
From the sports witness article:

On Wednesday, Marca went to quite some length to explain that had Real Madrid wanted Paul Pogba then they would have got him. Yes, he’s very expensive, but Marca explained that Real Madrid would have found a way to do the deal.


After all, Marca also pointed out that Real Madrid was Pogba’s first choice.

Inconveniently, a week ago the same newspaper said Pogba had chosen Manchester United, and only saw Real Madrid as an alternative.

It wasn’t just Marca. An AS column on Wednesday pointed out that Pogba this week posted an Instagram image, in which he was wearing all white. Pogba’s message was one of peace to the world, but AS insinuated that instead he was winking to the blancos of Real Madrid. Maybe just using peace as, you know, a convenient cover.

Not only that, AS said that the biggest stars of football always get to move where and when they want, like Cristiano Ronaldo and David Beckham. Whilst it can’t be denied that Ronaldo’s dream was always Real Madrid, Beckham says something very different.

Speaking to the BBC in 2013, Beckham said: “I don’t regret it because it was out of my hands, I don’t regret leaving Man… well, I don’t regret leaving, making that decision, because as I said it wasn’t my decision.

“I found out that Manchester United wanted to sell me and the only time that I spoke to Real Madrid was the day after that came out.”

That followed him explaining in his autobiography: ‘I never wanted to leave’

It’s no surprise that Marca’s Thursday front page is another nod to Real Madrid’s superiority over Manchester United: ‘VARANE SAYS NO TO MOU’

Manchester United, and two other unnamed Premier League clubs (Who needs their name? This is firmly Marca sniping at United!), are said to have approached Real Madrid with formal offers of €40m. The £30m+ is ‘very interesting from an economic point of view’ but Varane rejected the chance.

Marca say: ‘Also the Old Trafford club, through Mou himself, made Varane aware of interest. He made it clear that he wanted him on his team… Varane, however, declined the proposal of the Portuguese coach.’

That’s page 1&2 of Marca, on page 3 is a story about Alvaro Morata, and of course it’s stated Manchester United wanted him as well, and were ejected.

Then it’s continued on page 32, yes they’re not letting go. The Pogba deal is described as ‘lunacy’.


A Spanish journalist explains: ‘In my opinion, he is far from being a crack, if by that we mean Messi, Cristiano, Bale, Neymar… and a few more.

‘It is really crazy, for a very good player, yes, but he is not, in my ranking, among the 10 best in the world right now.’

In June of this year, Marca reported Zinedine Zidane had already held talks with Pogba twice, to convince him to choose Real Madrid. Another Marca report in June stated ‘Juventus and Real Madrid will sit down to negotiate soon’.

In September of last year, Marca decided to give Manchester United a good kicking over the David De Gea failed transfer, saying it was all the fault of the English club.

They didn’t stop there, and wheeled out AC Milan’s Adriano Galliani using Mark Twain to describe Manchester when Kaka almost moved to Manchester City, it was clear Marca agreed.

American writer Twain described 1800s industrial revolution Manchester in not a very flattering light: ‘I would like to live in Manchester, England. The transition between Manchester and death would be unnoticeable.’

Manchester was repeatedly described as grim, and not a place top footballers wanted to be.

Now it’s both Manchester United and Paul Pogba who are the target of snipes, and Marca would quite clearly be thrilled to see both, should the transfer happen, fail miserably.

Mental, this is football, not politics ffs. You're not trying to win votes here.
 
Which one is the Barcelona favouring newspaper? I know Marca are the RM mouthpiece, but there is supposed to be one more geared towards Barcelona?
 
From the sports witness article:



Mental, this is football, not politics ffs. You're not trying to win votes here.
They are taking this challenge of "kings of football" seriously. Shame we haven't got a paper that can counter with a "madrids fax machine is rubbish"
 
This is brilliant, Real who have had everything there own way regarding transfers, finally have met their match. Who gives a flip how much Pogba costs. He is coming back to his 1st family guys
 
Now there's talk of Pogba earning £290,000 after tax a week, apparently we've bought his image rights while agreeing to give him an extra £4.2m a season for them.

Obviously this could be a tax avoision ploy for his benefit or we're confident that he'll be a big success off the pitch with merchandising, social media marketing etc that will help us capitalize on our huge contingent of internet fans.

All these factor's come in to a players valuation in today's game, the 90 mins on the pitch have been surpassed by the business aspect, the huge commercial opportunity World wide that Pogba's signing affords will allow the club to maximise revenue from those fans of ours that may never see him in person.
 
Marca: The same paper who photoshopped a picture of an overwhelmingly United crowd to white in an attempt to make it seem like Madrid had the most supporters at a preseason game v United. Bitter.
 
I'll be happy if we sign Pogba, I think he's a quality player, and has great potential. Most would agree on that, the only question mark is his price.

I'm wondering, as a big question regarding his 'value' is who else we could have got, how would you have felt about Alli instead at half the price? It's easy to make lazy comparisons between them due to them both being tall, rangey, black, young footballers, but I actually think they're very similar as footballers. Both are more about being able to stride beyond an opponent, and odd moments of magic rather than the intricate passing or always available nature of Iniesta or Modric.

So do you think Pogba offers significantly more than Alli? I can help but feel, as pleased as I'll be about Pogba, that we may have been able to tempt Alli and Spurs with a bid of £50-60m for him.
 
I've never seen so many opposition team fans trying to downplay Utd as a small team. Maybe if they say it enough it will become true? We are a global superpower and 3 rough years doesn't change that.
 
Which one is the Barcelona favouring newspaper? I know Marca are the RM mouthpiece, but there is supposed to be one more geared towards Barcelona?
Mundo Deportivo and Sport are Barça favouring while Marca and AS unofficially support Real Madrid.