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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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Blah blah blah....getting boring!


Yet in the real world where grand marshal Perez isn't handing out the stories to mouthpiece journalists:

We knew DAYS ago that Pogba committed to MUFC. These spanish outlets man, the "cult of perez" must be maintained.
 
In the same article that Scholes says Gundogan is a great buy and that he has seen a lot of him, he says he isnt sure of Micky because he hasnt seen much of him. The interviewer should have probably asked him there and then, "erm Paul, you do know that they played in the same team for the last 3 years? And that Gundogan probably played less games than Micky due to the injuries he had."

I really liked the man when he avoided the press.
Agreed. I liked him more when he kept his mouth shut. This is also the player that actually refused to put on the Utd shirt for a game. He has spouted so much nonsense since he moved into the media, it's unreal. Hopefully we won't see too much more of him in front of the camera.
 
If Pogba is waiting for a Madrid move then the deal is hardly 'all but done'. Same shit, different day from the media.
 
In the same article that Scholes says Gundogan is a great buy and that he has seen a lot of him, he says he isnt sure of Micky because he hasnt seen much of him. The interviewer should have probably asked him there and then, "erm Paul, you do know that they played in the same team for the last 3 years? And that Gundogan probably played less games than Micky due to the injuries he had."

I really liked the man when he avoided the press.

Same. Loved him as a player. Rapidly turning into an annoying, negative whinging little cnut
 
sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

"pogba hasn't signed off" :lol::lol::lol:

Di Marzio told us on the FIRST DAY OF THIS SAGA that we have agreed a "deal in principle" with pogba to return. HE IS HAPPY TO RETURN. I know the "cult of Perez" must be maintained, but at least (spanish journos) do some fecking fact-checking before you dictate the info perez sends you :lol::lol::lol:
 




Blah blah blah....getting boring!


The cost has never and will never change so I dont know why the Spanish press keep pushing this talk.

And we would never go this deep in a transfer (bidding more and more) without having guaranteed assurances Pogba will sign with us.

Sometimes I really wish we had a paper(s) that pushed our agenda to the public too.

"Pogba wants to return to United. Although Zidane was a great player, Paul considers Jose as the best manager in the game and one that will take his game to the next level. Pogba has also previously said that the only team in Spain he would join is Barcelona and that he admires Leo Messi more than Madrids Ronaldo, who he considers less of a team player"
 
Keep reading and hearing people speak about Pogba as if he's just all potential. Look at his inclusion in the UEFA and FIFpro XI. He's already one of the best midfielders in the world. His potential is to be one of the best overall. Yes, there are probably better deals available but we aren't in need of great value right now. We're lacking in top qualiry, not depth. Our team needs a superstar level talent to build around, to go with DDG and Martial. Pogba fits that bill better than any available young player.
 
Madrid have started a PR defensive on the Pogba situation. With everything that's coming out, it's pretty obvious he's United bound.
 
I wouldnt have any issue with Woodward walking away from this at this stage.

Not that I dont want Pogba, but neither am I enthusiastic about watching us get totally ripped off. Juve are taking the piss.

Whatever Woodward decides to do is fine. But if he says, in the end Juve were just asking too much, it didnt make sense, I wont hold it against him, or see it as us being cheap. We cant allow our negotiating position to be handing over a pot of lube, bending over a table and saying do your worst.

Well to be fair, Juve themselves just paid out 94mil themselves for a 28 year old striker who was surplus to Real just a few years ago. They probably know they're overpaying quite a bit too, but maybe that's what they feel they need to do to win the CL.

I guess in the same way, we're desperate to get back into the game too. Pogba will improve our chances of winning the league a fair bit, and maybe we need to suck it up just this once.

Of course there is ultimately a limit we will not exceed, but Juve probably knows this too. And I think 120+mil is probably the most they can squeeze from us without breaking the deal.
 
Id take his comments with a pinch of salt, though Im not sure that reason is particularly relevant.

It is very relevant. First of all because it hits Paul Scholes as a supporter. The club he loves has lost a player with great potential because he wasn't given space in our team. Paul Scholes may wonder if Pogba would have still left if he remained in retirement + he would be furious with the boy for not fighting for his first team place (these are people who think that Manchester United is the centre of the universe and that anything beyond not succeeding there is a failure).

It also hits him as a SAF's loyal disciple. Believe it or not, PS is SAF's most loyal disciple. Unlike Giggs and Gaz Paul Scholes didn't had any agents. When Moratti enquired about the guy, he ended up speaking with SAF who told him to stick his offer in an inappropriate place. Paul Pogba is the living embodiment of SAF's rare but biggest feckup. We're actually buying our talent back for 100m because the manager (Paul Scholes idol) preferred to stick to his golden oldies (which also include PS) than to this kid. For us, its not really that bad to admit that SAF messed up. He's the single most important person in this club's history but he's still human after all. However these people owe everything to the man, he made them the stars they are now and lead them to multiple victories. Basically they owe him everything and they can't stomach that he might have messed up big time.

Finally it challenges the very concept of the United way. The class of 92 have this romantic view of that period and think that United were lead by some knight in shining armour who would rather lose trophies then not giving youths a chance. Its unthinkable for them that SAF would rather lose a top quality but inexperienced talent and rely on his old guard just to end his career on high. This mentality is ironically highlighted by the Keano-SAF spat which is brilliantly described in one of SAF's books. At one point, Keane looked at SAF and told him that he had changed and he wasn't the man Keano idolised anymore. SAF admitted that he had to change else he wouldn't keep on winning. That is something I believe that the class of 92 have yet to fully comprehend. The SAF who gave them their shot wasn't the same SAF's of Pogba's time.
 
What are your reasons for not liking the player? For me, he is exactly what we need - a highly accomplished technical player, which we haven't had since Scholes retired. He can help us dominate possession and also unlock defenses that are lying deep. Not to mention that he does have the ability to score a few goals, which is again something we have missed. Of course he has some weaknesses, particularly on the defensive side of the game but if we pair him with 1-2 energetic midfielders, I see our midfield being the best in the PL.

I just don't like his style. I'd prefer a more aggressive attacking midfielder. I don't like his hair either. Or his agent.
 
The cost has never and will never change so I dont know why the Spanish press keep pushing this talk.

And we would never go this deep in a transfer (bidding more and more) without having guaranteed assurances Pogba will sign with us.

Sometimes I really wish we had a paper(s) that pushed our agenda to the public too.

"Pogba wants to return to United. Although Zidane was a great player, Paul considers Jose as the best manager in the game and one that will take his game to the next level. Pogba has also previously said that the only team in Spain he would join is Barcelona and that he admires Leo Messi more than Madrids Ronaldo, who he considers less of a team player"

Imagine the headline::drool:

Pogba:"I will never play for a coach that can't grow hear."
 
Think you mean 'crock' in Gundogan. Who would you prefer. A unfit player with several long-term injuries, or a 23 year old uninjured player with no injury history? I think we all know Pogba is better than Gundogan anyway. To call Pogba a joker, is just laughable. Good job on giving me a laugh this morning. You denied you are a WUM earlier in this thread. The more and more i see your posts, the more i think you're 'trying' your best to be one.

I admit this morning I'm just trying to keep the thread count up toward the target/record so I'm not going to say anything new. However I stand over everything I've posted. Pogba is a joker.

To be honest I take exception to being called a WUM. That says more about your muppetry than my 'attempts' at humour.
 
I agree with some quotes from Scholsey, but comparing Gundogan and Pogba, its insane. Tell me one thing in which Gundogan is better? Acceleration, passing, long balls, sprints, long distance sprints with the ball, changing direction, and it goes on and on .. Gundogan can create something thats not questionable, but we need a player with all this attributes (even more) and stamina.

Aggression.
 
This delay is letting stories like these exist. If he hasn't signed off then how have we agreed terms with him?
Could have agreed terms in principle - with all parties (Juve, Pogba, Raiola) but not yet signed off because Pogba is still hoping that Real can scrape together the funds (probably needs them to sell James or another player)
 


"Wednesday, barring any unforeseen circumstances Pogba the day (he signs) for Man Utd. 120m, 20m devided by player and family."
 
It is of course but if (and I know it's a big one) he stays fit, City will have picked up a better player for a fraction of the Pogba fee. I'd bet Fergie would put on Gudongan sooner than re-sign Pogba.

Better player, Pogba was more successful in Europe than him in the last 3 seasons
 
Doesn't surprise me that he hangs around with a headcase like Chad Johnson!
I agree. To be fair, judging from his stupid Instagram photos and videos, Pogba seems like maybe even a bigger head case than Chad Johnson. And certainly seems worse than Memphis, who is constantly criticised for being too "flashy". But then again, as long as it doesn't affect Pogba's actual play on the field, who cares?
 
It is very relevant. First of all because it hits Paul Scholes as a supporter. The club he loves has lost a player with great potential because he wasn't given space in our team. Paul Scholes may wonder if Pogba would have still left if he remained in retirement + he would be furious with the boy for not fighting for his first team place (these are people who think that Manchester United is the centre of the universe and that anything beyond not succeeding there is a failure).

It also hits him as a SAF's loyal disciple. Believe it or not, PS is SAF's most loyal disciple. Unlike Giggs and Gaz Paul Scholes didn't had any agents. When Moratti enquired about the guy, he ended up speaking with SAF who told him to stick his offer in an inappropriate place. Paul Pogba is the living embodiment of SAF's rare but biggest feckup. We're actually buying our talent back for 100m because the manager (Paul Scholes idol) preferred to stick to his golden oldies (which also include PS) than to this kid. For us, its not really that bad to admit that SAF messed up. He's the single most important person in this club's history but he's still human after all. However these people owe everything to the man, he made them the stars they are now and lead them to multiple victories. Basically they owe him everything and they can't stomach that he might have messed up big time.

Finally it challenges the very concept of the United way. The class of 92 have this romantic view of that period and think that United were lead by some knight in shining armour who would rather lose trophies then not giving youths a chance. Its unthinkable for them that SAF would rather lose a top quality but inexperienced talent and rely on his old guard just to end his career on high. This mentality is ironically highlighted by the Keano-SAF spat which is brilliantly described in one of SAF's books. At one point, Keane looked at SAF and told him that he had changed and he wasn't the man Keano idolised anymore. SAF admitted that he had to change else he wouldn't keep on winning. That is something I believe that the class of 92 have yet to fully comprehend. The SAF who gave them their shot wasn't the same SAF's of Pogba's time.
Alternatively, Scholes is emblematic of the kind of senior United player who always thinks he knows best...partly because SAF mistakenly viewed their pithiness as plain-speaking common sense when it was often sheer arrogance and self-righteousness. Note that Scholes is swift to imply that Pogba leaving was about money, and omits to mention the specific elephant in the room: Scholes and co taking Pogba's place in the team and so stunting the player's development. These senior players love to play the worldly and selfless mentor but they're all too often about self-interest.
 
I agree. To be fair, judging from his stupid Instagram photos and videos, Pogba seems like maybe even a bigger head case than Chad Johnson. And certainly seems worse than Memphis, who is constantly criticised for being too "flashy". But then again, as long as it doesn't affect Pogba's actual play on the field, who cares?
Maybe don't do that?
 
It is very relevant. First of all because it hits Paul Scholes as a supporter. The club he loves has lost a player with great potential because he wasn't given space in our team. Paul Scholes may wonder if Pogba would have still left if he remained in retirement + he would be furious with the boy for not fighting for his first team place (these are people who think that Manchester United is the centre of the universe and that anything beyond not succeeding there is a failure).

It also hits him as a SAF's loyal disciple. Believe it or not, PS is SAF's most loyal disciple. Unlike Giggs and Gaz Paul Scholes didn't had any agents. When Moratti enquired about the guy, he ended up speaking with SAF who told him to stick his offer in an inappropriate place. Paul Pogba is the living embodiment of SAF's rare but biggest feckup. We're actually buying our talent back for 100m because the manager (Paul Scholes idol) preferred to stick to his golden oldies (which also include PS) than to this kid. For us, its not really that bad to admit that SAF messed up. He's the single most important person in this club's history but he's still human after all. However these people owe everything to the man, he made them the stars they are now and lead them to multiple victories. Basically they owe him everything and they can't stomach that he might have messed up big time.

Finally it challenges the very concept of the United way. The class of 92 have this romantic view of that period and think that United were lead by some knight in shining armour who would rather lose trophies then not giving youths a chance. Its unthinkable for them that SAF would rather lose a top quality but inexperienced talent and rely on his old guard just to end his career on high. This mentality is ironically highlighted by the Keano-SAF spat which is brilliantly described in one of SAF's books. At one point, Keane looked at SAF and told him that he had changed and he wasn't the man Keano idolised anymore. SAF admitted that he had to change else he wouldn't keep on winning. That is something I believe that the class of 92 have yet to fully comprehend. The SAF who gave them their shot wasn't the same SAF's of Pogba's time.

Its an interesting argument and there may well be something in it. Then again, there may not. Its all very speculative.
 
I don't really watch Serie A so only really seen bits and pieces of Pogba since he left United

The type of player that he reminds me of is a Steven Gerrard in his prime - dynamically driving forward from the midfield into attack - is this a fair comparison? I hope so, because that sort of player would be fantastic.
 
Also i think the Scholes comment might be a fergie brief, i think he is fuming we have gone so big in for him as it makes his decision look wrong. Personally for me Scholes was a great player, but hi opinions are wide of the mark.
 
I don't really watch Serie A so only really seen bits and pieces of Pogba since he left United

The type of player that he reminds me of is a Steven Gerrard in his prime - dynamically driving forward from the midfield into attack - is this a fair comparison? I hope so, because that sort of player would be fantastic.

A more technical version perhaps. Hopefully if we get him, he steps up even more. He's certainly capable if we were to use him properly.