I guess i was looking at it the other way around where they wanted Kroos and would only get him IF Real were able to get Pogba. But you are probably right
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Any chance people could post translations with the tweets please?!
I want to put this deal in to another perspective.
Buying Pogba doesn't nesseccerly put SAF in a "very" bad light. Making decisions is part of a manager's job and nobody gets every single decision perfectly right. I would say that a leader who don't make mistakes doesn't try enough.
In a huge club like United there is always political games, individuals who wants to position themselves and people with agendas. That goes with the territory. Sir Alex was a unique leader in many ways. Being in charge for more then 25 years means he was probably one of the oldest employees at the club. That along with his title as a manager gives him extra power. Combine that with unparalleled success and you got a Godfather who's untouchable. Very very few leaders reach that position.
Jose Mourinho has to build his own platform with loyal employees. Same as Woody. They probably co operate in many ways and probably benefit from each other's presence. You scratch my back and I scratch yours...
Getting rid of Giggs was a political statement. Look guys, there's a new sheriff in town. Mou needed to show that he had integrity and enough power to do whatever he wanted. Forcing a club legend out of the door was a message to everybody. I'm the new boss and I do what I want.
Buying Pogba isn't brave from my perspective. On the contrary it's a wise move. A new manager needs a new leader on the field. His own man who embodies his visions. Sir Alex had Cantona and Keane. Mourinho's choice is Zlatan and Pogba. Two charismatic players with huge egos. Just like himself. Good choice!
It would be faster to just run it through Google translate rather than asking about it :P
Yeah but it's more for those who just post any tweet that says "Pogba" or "United" in it. If they don't know what it says then don't post it
I'm also incredibly lazy.
Yeah but it's more for those who just post any tweet that says "Pogba" or "United" in it. If they don't know what it says then don't post it
I'm also incredibly lazy.
Fair enough
Now, let's get this thread over the line! Push, laddies!
So I haven't been following this very closely. Has anything happened yet?
"Madrid is trying everything to hijack the deal of United ,Zidane with Pogba,deal/meetings with Juve,everything..."
I bought a new kettle. Nothing to report regarding Pogba though.
What's stopping the deal from happening then? This thread was updated daily with di marzio saying deal done, di marzio saying riola flying , tancredi saying deal is done, l'equipe saying deal is done. Are these guys not part of the media? Or just because their news is positive we tend to believe them and update the status?
Obviously something is wrong, it could be that the lot mentioned above were lying when nothing was in place, or that pogba is not convinced about united. Riola is not the problem as you do not haggle for 20million when you are paying 100.
United have made bids.
Reports of bids both being rejected and accepted.
Reports of Juventus trying to rob us further.
Reports that all is agreed.
Crerand asking why it's not been announced if all is agreed.
Muppets go crazy suicidal and cum all over the place at the same time.
He's going to Madrid, I've accepted it. fml I'm committing muppet suicide
So to guess a reliable transfer-price range on Pogba, I've counted Juventus' money and looked at how much above an average budget they are this year:
Confirmed: (Source: Transfermarkt.de)
Miralem Pjanic
32,00 Mill. €
Marko Pjaca
23,00 Mill. €
Mario Lemina
9,50 Mill. €
Benatia (Loan fee)
3.00 Mill. €
Possible transfers:
Gonzalo Higuain
Release clause: 94 Mill. €
Gabigol (40% of his rights)
18,0 Mill. € - Total sum might be more to gain the remaining 10,1%
Total sum: -176,5 m Euros.
So how much does Juve spend in average pr season?
2015/2016: (Earnings minus expenditure in transfers - Source transfermarkt.de)
- 56 mill Euros
2014/2015
- 17 mill Euros
2013/2014
+ 12 mill Euros
2012/2014
- 50 mill Euros
On average that is:
- 27 mill euros pr season.
Which means that with the total sum so far, including Higuain / Gabigol has spent:
152,5 mill euro ABOVE what the average spending season for Juventus has been over the last 4 seasons
Edited: Included Benatia
Confirmed: (Source: Transfermarkt.de)
Miralem Pjanic
32,00 Mill. €
Marko Pjaca
23,00 Mill. €
Mario Lemina
9,50 Mill. €
Benatia (Loan fee)
3.00 Mill. €
Possible transfers:
Gonzalo Higuain
Release clause: 94 Mill. €
Gabigol (40% of his rights)
18,0 Mill. € - Total sum might be more to gain the remaining 10,1%
Total sum: -176,5 m Euros.
So how much does Juve spend in average pr season?
2015/2016: (Earnings minus expenditure in transfers - Source transfermarkt.de)
- 56 mill Euros
2014/2015
- 17 mill Euros
2013/2014
+ 12 mill Euros
2012/2014
- 50 mill Euros
On average that is:
- 27 mill euros pr season.
Which means that with the total sum so far, including Higuain / Gabigol has spent:
152,5 mill euro ABOVE what the average spending season for Juventus has been over the last 4 seasons
Edited: Included Benatia
To be fair to Juventus, they have barely had any need to spend.
Rooney tried screwing with united and was made to look like a jackass and was made to apologise publicly. I know that the market is inflated but for what he brings to the table, 40 is enough.
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Agreed. Shit like this doesnt cast SAF in a bad light, his trophy haul speaks for itself. Two managers can have a very different opinion about a player, it doesnt mean one of them is wrong, per se, it could mean he suit one's style more, or the circumstances in the squad might be different, or they have completely different criteria when assessing a player. Or maybe SAF did make a mistake, but he was winning right to the end, anything and everything he did was vindicated to that extent. I think SAF will be content to be judged on what he won, not on random decisions he made about his squad.
Why doesn't he like vascular legs?
I like kettles.
Thanks. I like Crerand, especially as a commentator. He's so unashamedly biased.
Please don't my Muppet Juices can't hold it in any longer.
I know, right!
Are you ensahul's friend?He's going to Madrid, I've accepted it. fml I'm committing muppet suicide
I'm 99% confident at this stage of Pogba being a United player next year.
Infact I don't even believe he's the last transfer yet.
Infact I don't even believe he's the last transfer yet.
The title
Who else do you think we'll get?
There are a few points you have missed.
1) Reports that Higuain payment is over 2 years, half now half next season
2) they have sold Morata for 30 million and have Zaza and Pereya selling which will get about 40 million for both.
actual out lay this year is much less than what have mentioned and could be even less if they move on Zaza and Pereya
So we're essentially going to pay €156m (that's including Raiola's 20%) for Pogba.. Crazy money, but we need him.
I pointed this out a couple of days ago, but apparently according to some posters who shall remain nameless, Juventus have unlimited funds and can spend what they like
Pogba and Raiola to meet in Miami to discuss the transfer to United.
Regardless they are not paying Huguain's fee unless Pogba is sold. They can sell it how they like. It wouldn't happen.
That fee only takes into account what Santos own. Doyen fee needs to be agreed
Why not? They are paying €18m for 40% of his rights.
I really don't know what to make of this anymore ..so many people sayings its done yet we seem further away than ever ...all the parties involved .juve,riola ,pogba and Woodward literally miles from each other .
I'm coming to the only conclusion there can be, something clearly is wrong and the chances of him signing now are slim to none sadly
I'm coming to the only conclusion there can be, something clearly is wrong and the chances of him signing now are slim to none sadly
If that was the case I'm confident that we would see reports of United pursuing other targets.
That story is bull.
He's been in Miami since Saturday and hasn't met his client, plus hasn't even spoken about United yet? hard to believe.
Do you think they all need to be in one room to do a deal?