That is by far the saddest thing I've seen in this thread.
And that's saying something.
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That is by far the saddest thing I've seen in this thread.
And that's saying something.
It is not Raiola in the wrong here. Those stingy pasta tossing bambinos at Juve stole him from us with promises to Raiola about the 20%, so then they better pay up.
Who? Save maybe Neymar, like @Kevin says.
All players are available for the right price. If the club are keen on the money offered by another club they will most likely get their way. Like with di Maria for example.
No, of course we can't. I'm saying there aren't many players who's club wouldnt accept an offer of the size we're now making for Pogba.
Where's your sense of drama and muppetry??
I don't see how his latest quotes confirm anything at all? It's the most generic answer ever!
Everyone except the obvious two and Neymar.
I'm not saying there's a better alternative out there, just that he isn't the only one we could get for this kind of money. I'm more than happy with Pogba coming, I don't see how we could do any better.
Hang on, the man's doing his job. If it's in black and white what he's owed as per the terms of the previous contract Juve should honour that, it's pretty poor business etiquette. Raiola should hold them to account.
Instead, they are using it as part of a negotiation tactic with us and seemingly won't agree to finalise the deal without Raiola's fee's being at least part funded. It will not stand them in good stead for the future if they are known to renege on contracts they sign or use below the belt tactics to weasel out of it. Just a few points of note:
1) Raiola isn't going to throw away his commission easily, the last thing he wants is for the deal to go south
2) Rhetoric out of both United and Juve camps suggest that this deal is close to completion
3) Reputable media outlets are reporting the deal as being all but completed
4) There are plenty of reasons as to why this move makes sense for Pogba
The missing bit of info for me is whether or not Juve can afford all the alleged signings/fees for their incoming players (Higuain) without the Pogba money? If they can't then this deal is sure to complete sooner or later, regardless of who throws their toys out of the pram the furthest.
Wait, so Raoila negotiated a fee with Juve (based on future transfer fee) for helping them to steal Pogba from us and now they want us to pay that fee???
They must think Woodward was born yesterday!
They must think Woodward was born yesterday!
Its not that simple. Juve probably told us they want 100m for Pogba. We then said okay sure, then Juve reminded us that what that actually means is we have to pay Mino 20% cut before the price. Which is obviosuly cheeky of them.
They have a price that they want which excluded Minos share. When in reality their prices would normally include his share.
Even though all of what they said is how most of us feel and know to be true, it's good to hear it from a less biased entity
Most of the names people would throw out! This has been done ad nauseum in this thread already.
Juve have apparently had a bid for Gabigol accepted now as well. These endless signings from Juve must mean that Pogba is gone. Otherwise they have some enormous war chest stashed away somewhere that no-one knows about.
Yeah. It's very, very sad.
That is by far the saddest thing I've seen in this thread.
And that's saying something.
The Independent scooped me.
As for wasting my time creating this very apt case study, it is mine to waste after all. BTW, feel free to peruse my monumental fail!
EDIT: And that is it for my 5 posts a day. Perhaps I will just reply to people by editing this post into eternity? Hehe...
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You don't have to compile long lists of Pogba stories. We still like you.
So Duncan Castles gets a lot of hate on here but he was the first to break the story?
There's now 0ver 600 pages can he go back and start again?Wait, you went through 136 pages of this thread?!
Feck me, we have to wait till August 6th now?
Ok I have just watched the Italian Sky Sports woman give info on the situation via UK Sky Sports.
This is all done. She even had exact wages etc. It literally is just waiting for us to pay Raiola's €20m (not 25 like some are reporting.)
As soon as either us or Juve pay it, Pog is ours.
I can't see Jose letting them f**k this up over a few quid. We would probably be looking at selling a fair few players as well.
Pogba is as good as done for me.
This is all done. She even had exact wages etc. It literally is just waiting for us to pay Raiola's €20m (not 25 like some are reporting.)
As soon as either us or Juve pay it, Pog is ours.
I can't see Jose letting them f**k this up over a few quid. We would probably be looking at selling a fair few players as well.
Pogba is as good as done for me.
Yes but it's probably not even true, just journos looking for stories about how tough Juve have been in negotiations to appease their fans and filling time/headlines before it is announced.
Well he's a Mendes/Jose mouthpiece so I guess he's got to be somewhat reliable in regards to United now. Don't really get all the hate he gets. He is really, really bald, though.
I don't really get the Duncan Castles hate. It's clear he has some links to Mourinho, and to be fair there's worse journos than him.
Yeah feck Juve , let's not negotiate with them and pull out of deal.
and pull out of deal.Castles and Keys seem to be the football forum's whipping boys but both are very good when it comes to Utd these days. I trust them over Tanc Top and Di Marzio.
I wonder if the intoxication and hubris of Mou's newly arrived vibes, and his Gung Ho attitude etc, might have led Woody to overplay his hand? Did all the hints and leaks leave Juve with a bit too much bargaining leverage? Woody/United winds up as the boy who brags of climbing a tall steeple, and puts himself in grave danger, 'cos he can't lose face? Looking down from a great height right now. Hope Pogba is worth it.
20m is not a few quid though.
Yeah, my fault. Not ridiculing in any way (I'm glad he's coming), but I do think we could get pretty much anyone except the ones you mention for this money, yes.
But I'm happy with it, I just don't agree that he's the only option.
It is in the grand scheme of things. We are pretty desperate for a world class midfielder and not closing the deal over it would be madness. We could recoup that fee by selling Fellaini and Schweinsteiger.
This thread is shit and people are going for the record number of posts just for the sake of it. Reminds me of Rooney's quest for the goal scoring record.
Phenomenal work, but you could have saved yourself a lot of bother by just using the last two weeks. He's been signed, fee agreed, fee not agreed, agent fee holding it up, Real involved, Real never fancied her anyway, fee not agreed, fee agreed, fee agreed but Juve actually want more at one point. It's gotten beyond a joke.
the onus is always on the buyer in this case, particularly when there isn't much in the way of rival bids. we'll pay the fee, or maybe the majority of it or something.
Juve about to deposit release clause of Higuain. Which means PogOn in...
And so it begins...
Has anyone got that post listing all the reliable and unreliable Italian journos/publications?
Yes, exactly!
It's down to him being an obvious ABU and constantly posting negative stories or putting a negative spin on things about us. Can't stand the twat.
Yes. And, in my opinion, having Pog and Ravel were the major reason as to why Sir never went big for a midfielder.
I'am just saying go for the ones you can get
Apart from Di Maria I can't remember a single top player the club went for and we actually managed to get him. Vidal, Ramos, Müller, Hazard etc, I'am not saying we should sign all these players, I'am saying if you spend half a summer trying then please try to get it done for once.
I would have been just as happy if the club said this summer we need a new midfielder, lets sign Kanté or Pjanic and get them. If they rather get Pogba then that is fantastic but if it ends with no Pogba and also no Kanté, no Pjanic because they are off the market already then feck me that is a big failure.
It is not moaning it is just stating the obvious fact that we have advanced to a state right now because the transfer has dragged on for awhile and most other alternatives have already disappeared, we better get this done or risk having a failed summer again.
Cheers pal
I don't buy that they'll be able to sign Higuain and keep Pogba, not for the money they're throwing at Napoli. Financially they're not a Madrid or United and couple that to their match fixing budget for the season I simply don't see how they're not going to sell Pogba to us at the quoted prices.