Yeah, it's hard to ignore the "He is not yet a Madrid player. We cannot talk about what will happen." line
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Yeah, it's hard to ignore the "He is not yet a Madrid player. We cannot talk about what will happen." line
Yep. 100% would prefer all three of them to Pogba.
Which is why your opinion should not be taken too seriously in this thread. Fabregas over Pogba
FFSNeither am I. But he's right to point out that the climate is somewhat different now. Players - even fairly average ones - have become brands unto themselves, being as interested (seemingly) in promoting their own persons as being part of great teams.
Still, some basic truths probably haven't changed. There's still a difference between a professional and a mercenary, for instance. The former category you can still use - even if they aren't "loyal" to the club in a Paul Scholes sense. The latter are as useless as they always were.
Which is why your opinion should not be taken too seriously in this thread. Fabregas over Pogba
Which is why your opinion should not be taken too seriously in this thread. Fabregas over Pogba
Yeah you are right guys. A World Cup, Euro, double CL, PL and La Liga winning captain is FAR inferior to Pogba. Silly me.
You'd prefer a 29 year-old Fabregas who's level has already dropped dramatically?
The other two are fine players (though you'd qualify that with Kante by pointing out he's only shown this for one season) but neither are direct alternatives to Pogba. Kante offers hardly any attacking threat, while De Bruyne is the opposite.
That's terrible reasoning, and you can't be that blinkered.
I have this sneaky feeling coming in that Madrid are going to get us back for the De Gea situation last summer and come in with a bid for Pogba out of no where.
I know they are trying hard to offload James Rodrigues issue is why is one in for him, i would have though City, Chelsea and even Arsenal would have been licking their licks at the thought of James in the PL.
I know they are trying hard to offload James Rodrigues issue is why is one in for him, i would have though City, Chelsea and even Arsenal would have been licking their licks at the thought of James in the PL.
Good point. We should go for Pele.
Of course the climate is different. But that doesn't mean fundamental values around genuine desire and commitment should be abandoned. I really do wonder what SAF thinks of all of this.
Yeah, it's hard to ignore the "He is not yet a Madrid player. We cannot talk about what will happen." line
Sounds like both clubs are negotiating and Juve is agnostic. It's all up to Pogba now and it seems he isn't about to favor us - if he did, the deal would have been sealed by now.
Wait, you talking about Fabregas? He's never won the CL.
Is that because they have all proclaimed their undying love for all things United?
Or is it only Pogba who had to do this?
If this is true then we should tell the fat c*nt where to go and throw our money away at something else.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/paul-pogba-manchester-united-medical-11666473
He's an unbelievable talent … BUT I have never seen anything that tells me Pogba is in the "top player in the world" bracket – surely I'd have seen that by now if the figures being quoted are true? He's also, possibly, a bit of a loose cannon and I think this price-tag will almost certainly go to his head - maybe not 100% Ballotelli-wise but enough to make us look stupid.
My advice chuck £40m at an ageing Modric and let Real have Pogba … or, just chuck €120m at Athletico for Griezmann! And we'll still have money left over for a half decent midfielder!
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/paul-pogba-manchester-united-medical-11666473
He's an unbelievable talent … BUT I have never seen anything that tells me Pogba is in the "top player in the world" bracket – surely I'd have seen that by now if the figures being quoted are true? He's also, possibly, a bit of a loose cannon and I think this price-tag will almost certainly go to his head - maybe not 100% Ballotelli-wise but enough to make us look stupid.
My advice chuck £40m at an ageing Modric and let Real have Pogba … or, just chuck €120m at Athletico for Griezmann! And we'll still have money left over for a half decent midfielder!
And he would choose Barcelona over Real. Barca aren't in for him either.
That's just facesious. Last season aside Fabregas has been superb. We really wanted him just three years ago. He lifted the PL just a year ago and was probably the best player in the squad after Hazard. Fact is I've named four midfielders everyone agrees is superior than Pogba and typically ye zone in on the one that ye don't agree with.
It's not true... The spanish, Madrid friendly, media completely made it up. The doctor who was supposedly going to do the medical even came out on twitter to say it was bollocks.
I can. And I am. Interesting I'm the only one to name midfielders who I consider superior to Pogba. All the rest of ye must think he's the best in the world?
Zz has just said he isn't for sale?
Have they all shown their desire to play for United?
Modric is the only one who is clearly better. Veratti, Busquets, Vidal and probably Iniesta (who isn't very consistent these days) in the same level, Kroos probably slightly worse, same about Koke.
Have we shown a desire to spend 120m on them?
TBF I'm sure most people are too busy with the comedic relief some of the claims you've made in this thread has brought us. No, I don't think he's the best in the world. Certainly don't think Cesc fecking Fabregas is better than him though.
Pretty sure Fabregas has only been club captain at Arsenal too, during which he won nothing of worth. Certainly wasn't captain at Barcelona during the season he won the league with them, like Rory suggests.
Really? Wow. So Modric is the best CM in the world?
Wasn't suggesting he was captain at Barca but can see how my list reads like that. I meant he was a captain/leader. He's still a super player.
Yes, easily.
Kante, Fabregas, and De Bruyne are not better.
I would agree Modric, Iniesta and possibly Vidal are currently better but all are 30 or over. They won't be better than Pogba in 2 years time. Pogba only just turned 23 let's remember.
Kroos and Veratti are really the only comparable midfielders in the same age bracket as Pogba that would justify a huge fee to secure their signings. PSG would never sell Veratti and we couldn't bid high enough to force them, Kroos isn't going to be sold by Real anytime soon and if he does leave i can only see him returning to Bayern. With that in mind Pogba is our best option, and would improve our team immensely.
Yeah Fabregas is definitely better than Pogba, get a grip FFS.
I think he is.
Well three years ago I'd have agreed with you on Fabregas!
As for the four... at 32 I'm not sure Iniesta would be a better signing than Pogba, much as he may still be the better player right now. Similar can be said for Modric to a lesser degree, and even Vidal is 29 already.
I'd take Kroos, though even in his case I've not been as gutted as I expected that we missed out on him before - the level he's playing at is a level I'd be optimistic Pogba will be at by his age if not earlier.
on what planet?same old story, different day !!